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Title: ryland birth london
Post by: danjac on Thursday 26 July 07 16:36 BST (UK)

hello,
can anyone help me find the birth of AMELIA RYLAND please?
she married HARRY PAPPS in 1797 ST AUGUSTINE & ST FAITH LONDON and that is all i know!
thank you very much
linda

Title: Re: ryland birth london
Post by: jorose on Thursday 26 July 07 17:06 BST (UK)

St. Augustine and St. Faith is better known as  St Augustine With St Faith or St Augustine Watling St (it was united with St. Faith Under St. Paul in 1670).

I can suggest some possible steps:

Check the church records - both parish records and bishops transcripts if they exist - for St. Augustine/St. Faith - marriages around 1797, also births and deaths of the same period, looking for any and all Rylands who lived in the area.  There may be more information in the original marriage record, even if it's just 'of this parish' or 'of the parish of...' If you get really lucky, she'll be listed in the baptisms of St. Augustine/St. Faith.
Try and find out - possibly mentioned in births or marriages of their children - what Harry's occupation was - in case he had the same trade as his father-in-law.
Try and find the death of Amelia - as well as Harry - to get an idea of when she was born.

Title: Re: ryland birth london
Post by: danjac on Thursday 26 July 07 17:50 BST (UK)

thank you for your help and advice.
lindax

Title: Re: ryland birth london
Post by: ennael on Monday 13 August 07 04:20 BST (UK)

hi, i have john smith papps and his sisters eliza ,sarah smith,  with father harry and mother amelia, no maiden name given. migrated to australia aboyt 1820+. children baptised st mary magdalene bermonsey, sound familiar?.

Title: Re: ryland birth london
Post by: danjac on Monday 13 August 07 10:28 BST (UK)

hello,
yes that is the right family, thank you.
and thanks for looking
lindax

Title: Re: ryland birth london
Post by: ennael on Friday 17 August 07 07:14 BST (UK)

hi linda,
 i am a direct descendent of Eliza PAPPS sister of John Smith PAPPS.
How are you related to this family ?.
Leanne.

Title: Re: ryland birth london
Post by: danjac on Saturday 18 August 07 13:02 BST (UK)

john smith papps was brother to my 3x great grandfather HARRY PAPPS bap 1812. he married HANNAH PURSLOVE and they had JOHN LAMBERT PAPPS born about 1839. he was my 2x great grandfather.
my email is

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 if you would like to get in touch, i'd love to hear from you
linda