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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Oxfordshire => Topic started by: Tempest on Saturday 21 July 07 19:44 BST (UK)
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Hi there.
Does any one know or who I could contact for information relating to the Mole family who were living in Duns Tew? There must be someone or some family history group / genealogy group there??
Cheers :P
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Hi Tempest Duns Tew is about five miles away from home for me. It's quite small & I haven't heard of a family history group there (tho' I may have missed it!). However there is a good local history/genealogy section in Oxford Library (Westgate Centre Oxford OX1 ???) Nice helpful people. Why not try a line to them?
Maggott
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Hi,I'm also researching the Mole family from Duns Tew.I'm not related to them myself but my partner John is the gt gt gt grandson of David Mole and Elizabeth Sarah Hirons.
I'd be happy to share what information I know and I have some parish registers and the Oxfordshire census for 1851-1901 which may be of help.
I am especially interested in the medical history of the Moles.My partner and his father have inherited a rare muscle disease called Central Core Disease and I am trying to find out where it originated.
Best wishes.Jane :)
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Well believe it or not David MOLE and Sarah Hiron are out on one of the distant twigs of my ALLEN tree their daughter Sarah married Jesse CANNING in Duns Tew 31 May 1855 He was son of John CANNING and Elizabeth Thornton John CANNING was one of 7 children of Valentine CANNING and Betty COLLETanother son (another Valentine had a daughter who married James ALLEN who in turn was the brother of my gtgt gran Eliza Allen Hope this isn't to complicated I have a bit on the CANNINGS I think I only followed this branch so far as I have MOULEs who are often spelt MOLE on my direct line but they are from Worcestershire I just (wrongly)felt there may have been a link. Anyway if you want any of the Canning stuff let me know Sorry I cant help with the medical situation though
Trees
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Hi Tempest,
Doing my weekly browse of this site and saw your message.
I have the P.R's for Dun Tew. exactly what or who are you looking for and what period are we looking at?
Cheers,
George.
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I have no idea what has happened to you Tempest, one month has passed and not a cheep!
Is this thread now closed?
George.
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Hi George,
Some of my Satchell/Satchwell family were married/born in Duns Tew. Would you be able to check the PR's for me and see if you have records of Satchell/Satchwells.
The following I'd be particularly interested in:-
Richard Satchell/Satchwell ch 19/12/1802 ? married Hannah 1825 Duns Tew
children that I know of christened, probably Duns Tew:
George 8/1/1826 married Kezia Harper 24/5/1859 Duns Tew
(Mary) Amelia ch 9/3/1828 married Daniel Wilins 1848
Mark ch 8/8/1830 married Elizabeth 1852 (Deddington)
Elizabeth ch 2/12/1832
Daniel ch 23/9/1836 married Martha Jarrett/Jowett
William ch 30/6/1839 married Hannah
Hannah ch 25/9/1842
Eli ch 8/2/1846 married Mary Ann 1869 Deddington
Mel
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Hi there Mel,
Since I last put that message on this site I have moved and also changed my user name, so as a result your message did not come up on my emails. Fortunately for you another person with whom I have contact advised me that there was acry for help on Duns Tew so here I am with what I have found for you.
Baptisms.
19 Dec 1802, SATCEL, Richard, s/o Richard & Mary. Dunstew.
30 Dec 1804, SATCHELL, Elizabeth, d/o William & Mary (not on your list)
29 Mar 1807, " John, s/o " " "
14 May 1809, SATCHELL, Martha, d/o " " "
21 Jul 1811 SATCHEL, Anne, " " " "
12 Nov 1815, SATCHELL, William, s/o " " "
12 Jun 1825 LINES/SATCHELL, Thomas, illig. s/o Thomas LINES of Hillesdon, farmer & Elizabeth SATCHELL of Dunstew. (again not on your list.
8 Jan 1826, SATCHEL, George, s/oRichard & Hannah, lab.
9 Mar 1828, SATCHELL, Mary, d/o Richard & Hannah, lab. NB."The nurse who named this child was by mistake understood to have said Mary but the Mother's intention was that her name should have been Amelia." The Baptismal Index shows AMELIA and not Mary.
8 Aug 1830, SATCHELL, Mark, s/o Richard & Hannah. lab.
2 Dec 1832, SATCHWELL, Eliza, d/o Richard & Hannah, lab
25 Sep 1836, SATCHWELL, Daniel, s/o " "
30 Jun 1839, " William " " "
25 Sep 1842, SATCHALL, Hannah, d/o " "
8 Feb 1846, SATCHWELL, Eli, s/o " "
8 May 1860, SATCHWELL, Joseph, s/o George & Kezia. (again not on your list.)
These are the only baptisms on the Duns Tew PR's for these surnames.
The only marriage that took place in Dunstew was
24 May 1859, SATCHELL, George, FA. bach. lab. Dunstew, s/o Richard.lab.
X HARPER, Kezia, spin. Dunstew, d/o Henry, lab. By Banns.
Wit. Moses HARPER, X Hannah SATCHELL.
There was a banns read for Amelia SATCHELL but no indication of the location where the marriage took place, not in Dunstew.
The OMI was also checked and nothing could be found for the oithers you mentioned, nor was there any in Deddington either ?
Somew burials I came across were as follows :
24 Oct 1813, SATCHELL, Hannah, 2
27 Jan 1821 " Mary, wife of Wm SATCHELL, 42.
1 Nov 1824, " Martha, 2 of Upper Worton.
10 May 1825, " John 18 of Dunstew.
2 Aug 1827 LINES/SATCHELL Thomas. s/o Thomas LINES & Elizabeth SATCHELL.
31 May 1838, SATCHELL, William, 68, of Woodstock.
And that is it from the Dunstew PR's hope these are to yourliking.
Cheers,
George, PS, Please note change of user name since 2007.
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Many thanks George.
All of these folk are related to my Satchwell family whom I've traced back to Samuel Satchell of Hamton in 1700's. My great grandfather George was born in Rowington & immigrated to NZ in 1874. I've traced his two brothers William & Henry but loose his brother Thomas after the 1861 census. Very frustrating, but thats another story. Being way down under it is not always easy to access records, although much easier these days with computers. I am very grateful to receive this info.
Mel
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Morning Mel,
Glad to have been of assistance, in this case, hope you manage to trace the missing rellies.
I have quite a collection of PR's for the Oxfordshire County so if you have any other queries please don't hesitate to ask.
Cheers and take care,
George.
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Tempest - wherefor art tho ?,
Since you first posted your request for assistance re the MOLE families of Duns Tew at the commencement of this thread I have moved house, and also had to change my user name from Tuan Iban to Frustrated Iban.
I am making one last attempt to pass on to you some three X A4 pages of said family details from Baptisms, Marriages and Burials as recorded in the Duns Tew PR's between c. 1804 and 1989.
I note that you were a Pioneer and that was your first posting so will keep my fingers crossed that this message gets through to you.
Regards,
George.
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Hi George
Just wondered, you said you had the PR for others in Oxford. I am looking for the PARRISH family from Little TEW and Sandford. I can only go back to William b@1792 little TEW.
thanks
Russ
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Hi there Russ,
Regret to advise that I do not have the PR's for Little Tew or Sandford, however this particular surname is very prolific throughout much of Oxfordshire as I have noted from the Bloxham, Chipping Norton & Hook Norton PR's whilst looking for some if my own folks.
So if you have any from any of these parishes I can definitely help out.
Cheers,
George.
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Thanks George
I will have a look and come back if thats okay.
Regards
Russ
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New to this site and have just read your interested in the "Tews"
All parish records can be found in Banbury Library for the surrounding area.
It saves going up to Oxford
I found them invaluable when tracing my family.
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Welcome to Rootschat Beatles I hope you enjoy it as much as the rest of us.
It is good to know where the records can be found. Do you live near Banbury? are you able to look the registers up for people who are a distance from the area?
Let us know how we can help with your research and enjoy the site
Trees
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Hi Trees
Yes i live about 2 miles from Banbury and would be able to "look ups" from this area.
I have found all my family from this area but would appreciate help from any one from the Ince in makerfield / Aspull area.
Beatles
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Thats great news and I am sure several of us will take you up on that wonderful offer I for example would love a photograph sometime of the Saye and Sele Arms pub on the main road from Broughton to Tadmartin so if you ever venture that way please take a camera.
Your first move is to post a request for help for your family on the Lancashire board.
Trees
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Trees
glorious day so I will pop over later this afternoon.
Beatles
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Many thanks I am very grateful thanks for the PM too
Trees
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Morning all,
I sent a reply to the query from Carol under Mentmore heading several minutes ago but have a feeling it has gone astray, my apologies if this information is posted twice.
Morning Carol,
John VARNEY married Sarah BRAIN in Great Tew 17 Sep 1791,(O.M.I.); their first born was ch. in Hook Norton 6 Nov 1791, the only one of that surname in the PR.
I then checked all 19 PR's on my hard drive from Bletchingdon to Yarnton - found several families with this surname or variant but not a trace of John or Sarah anywhere.
I still have numerous microfiche to check which could take some time but thought I would pass this info to start with.
Will get back to you later.
Still collecting pictures of pubs I see Hazel ;D.
Take care all,
Cheers,
George.
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Hi there Beatles,
What information are you looking for in Ince-in- Makerfield? Let me know, I am a member of the Manchester & Lancashire FHS so could put any requests you might have on our website.
Looking forward to hearing from you, Welcome by the way to this site and thread, I can see you making a lot of trips to Banbury :P
Most of my folks came from the Oxon area, Cumnor, Cropredy, (one lot ran the Red Lion there for some time way back) Deddington, BSJ, BSM, Wiggington etc and I have all of those PR's on microfiche but I will be asking favours in trying to clear a couple of long lasting brick walls I have in the not too distant future.
Cheers for now,
George.
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For Carol,
Further update -
Banbury Baptisms 1723 - 1812 show two John VARNEY's being bapt.
17 Jan 1738/39, VARNEY, John & Sarah, s & d/o Stephen, tailor and Mary. and
7 Dec 1751, VARNEY, John, s/o Stephen, lab, and Grace.
I don't honestly believe that either of these is the John you are looking for.
Similarly another was born in Milcombe, one VERNEY, John, ch. in Bloxham, 29 Dec 1738, s/o William of Milcombe.
Although I have found the surname in several of the PR's I have examined none of them show a John & Sarah. This pair seem to be very elusive, were they by any chance travellers or boat-people? the reason I ask is that they crossed through two other parishes from Great Tew to get to Hook Norton in the seven weeks from getting married to the christening of their first child, Sarah was from Gt. Tew and John seemingly was from Mentmore in Buckinghamshire according to the OMI. Anyone on the thread got access to the Chipping Norton PRs as a possible location for further baptisms; I am going the other way, back to the canal system running from Williamscote north of Banbury down to Weston Green and beyond and the associated parishes until we can find a more substantial link or information
For now then,
Cheers,
George.
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Hiya
for Carol
I have been to check out the PR in Banbury.
1.Found marriage of John Varney Sept.19th. 1791 Great Tew pr reads as follows
John Liburn Varney psh Henstone bucks /Lic (could be Enstone)
Sarah Brain
Witnesses :Josh Callaway
Henry Townsend
2.Found birth Richard son of John & Sarah Varney 6 Nov. 1791 Hook Norton pr.
I looked through the surrounding pr working out- wards from Hook Norton and could find no other Varney births with John & Sarah as parents.1791--1810
Wiggington X
Swerford X
Duns Tew X
DeddingtonX
Chipping Norton X
Bloxham X
Barford St. John and Michael X
Bodicote X
Broughton X
Banbury St.Marys X
Cropredy X
Finding Johns middle name may make it easier to trace them.
S :)
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Hello Beatles and Frustrated Iban
Have come across your replies regarding John Varney and Sarah Braine's marriage at Gt. Tew and their son being bap at Hook Norton.
For some reason these replies were not seen by me until this evening. I have no idea where John Varney was born other than he says on the marriage register he was from Mentmore, Bucks.
Thank you for your replies, and I'm sorry that I have only just seen them.
Best wishes
Carol
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Could someone please look up a marriage for me for William Satchell b 24/4/1777 Deddington who married Mary ? circa 1802 in Deddington, Duns Tew, Wardington areas of Oxfordshire. Their children were born Duns Tew as follows:- Richard ch. 19/12/1802; Elizabeth 30/12/1804; John 29/03/1807; Martha 14/5/1809; Anne/Hannah 21/7/1811; William 12/11/1815
Satchwell
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Good morning Satchwell,
Marriage of William SATCHELL to Mary OX, 26th Jul 1802, at Wardington, confirmed from the OMI and Wardington Parish Registers Fiche
26 Jul 1802 SATCHELL, X William, bach,
OX, X Mary, sp, b.o.t.p. by Banns.
Witnesses : James BONHAM, Mary X MILLINGTON.
You appear to have the Baptismal details for all the children or do you want confirmation of those also? Please advise.
Cheers for now,
George.
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Hi George,
Many thanks. Yes I have children's baptism reords. If you can find any info on the Ox family I would be most grateful. I believe Mary's parent's were Richard Ox & Mary. She may have a sister Elizabeth and also other siblings.
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Back again with the details I have found today,
O.M.I. - OX, William m. DURY, Martha, at Wardington, 10 Jul 1791.
OX, Richard,m. TASKER, Mary at Wroxton, 24 Jun 1806.
OX, William, m. BLENCOWE, Mary at Wardington. 7 Jul 1806.
OX. Thomas, m. BROOMFIELD, Elizabeth, at Wardington, 23 Mar 1818.
OX, Richard, m. OSBORNE, Elizabeth, at Wardington, 2 Apr 1823.
OX, John, m. HUNT, Ann, at Wardington, 14 Dec 1829.
Wardington PR's.
10 Jul 1791 OX, X William of Southam Warks.
DURY, X Martha, o.t.p. by Banns.
Witnesses: W. SABIN, J.W.
26 JUl 1802 you already have.
7 Jul 1806 OX, William,
BLENCOWE, Mary, b.o.t.p. by Banns.
Witnesses: John X MUCKLEY, Betty X OX.
23 Mar 1818 OX, X Thomas, bach.
BROMFIELD, Elizabeth, b.o.t.p. by Banns.
Witnesses: Thomas GREEN, Elizabeth X BARRET
2 Apr 1823 OX, X Richard,
OSBORN, X Elizabeth, b.o.t.p.
Witnesses: Abraham X DAVIS , Elizabeth X BARRETT.
5 Feb 1824 WEBB, X William of Turweston, Northants.
OX, X Mary o.t.p. by Banns
Witnesses: George COLEMAN, Elizabeth X WEBB.
15 Oct 1825 JARVIS, X William, bach.
OX, X Martha, sp. b.o.t.p. by Banns.
Witnesses: Richard X OX, Elizabeth BARRETT.
29 Jul 1828 HUNT William of Chalcombe.
OX X Martha, o.t.p. by Banns.
Witnesses: Rebecca X OX, Joseph X JOHNSON.
14 Dec 1829 OX X John, o.t.p.
HUNT, X Ann of Radway. by Banns.
Witnesses:Thomas X BATCHELOR, Ann X PARISH.
Baptisms and Burials for Wardington to follow.
George.
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Baptisms - Wardington,
10 Apr 1767 OX, William, s/o Richard & Mary. o.t.p.
15 Jan 1769 " Elizabeth, d/o " "
27 Oct 1769 " Edward, s/o " "
14 Mar 1773 " Hannah, d/o " "
28 Apr 1776 " Richard, s/o " "
5 Sep 1779 " Elizabeth, d/o " "
12 Jun 1782 " Mary, d/o " "
20 Apr 1794 OX, Elizabeth, d/o William & Martha, o.t.p.
2 Oxt 1796 " Thomas, s/o " "
26 May 1799 " Rebecca, d/o " "
19 Jul 1801 " Martha, d/o " "
9 Jan 1803 " Johanna, d/o " "
7 Dec 1804 " Sarah, d/o " "
4 Sep 1796 OX, Richard, s/o Edward & Esther.o.t.p.
23 Dec 1798 " John s/o " "
23 Aug 1801 " John, s/o " "
(No further baptisms for this family listed in Wardington)
26 Jan 1806 OX, Martha, d/o William & Mary. o.t.p.
(only baptism listed for this family in Wardington)
5 Apr 1812 OX, Mary, d/o Elizabeth.
3 Jan 1813 " Martha, d/o Elizabeth.
( nothing further listed in Wardington)
15 Jan 1823 OXE, Esther, d/o Richard & Elizabeth, servants.
Nothing else recorded in Wardington
26 Dec 1830 OX, Elizabeth, d/o John & Mary, Lab.
Nothing further.
19 Oct 1834 OX, Richard. s/o John & Ann, lab.
Nothing further
18 Jun 1852 OX, Ellen, d/o John & Elizabeth, lab.
Nothing further - it would seem that the younger OX families had moved out of he Wardington area about this time.
Burials tomorrow.
Cheers.
George.
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Many, many thanks for all this info George, I can never thank you enough.
Satchwell
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Morning again Satchwell,
Burials Wardington.
27 Nov 1773, OX, Elizabeth, d/o Richard, o.t.p.
31 Dec 1798, " , John, s/o Edward, o.t.p.
7 Jan 1805, " , Sarah, d/o William, o.t.p.
24 Jan 1806, ", Martha, wife of William, o.t.p.
13 May 1806, ", Joanna, d/o William, o.t.p.
27 Nov 1809, " , Esther, wife of Edward, o.t.p.
6 Jan 1811, ", Mary, wife of Richard, o.t.p.
11 Jul 1823 OXE, Esther, infant.
9 Oct 1826, OX, Richard, 88yrs.
4 Jun 1838, " , William, 72 yrs.
7 Jan 1841 " , Mary, 86 yrs.
22 May 1844 " , Edward, 73 Yrs.
23 Jan 1848 " , Ann, 52 yrs, influenza/diarrhea.
12 Jan 1850, " , Mary, no age given.
15 Jun 1856 " , Elizabeth, no age given.
8 Apr 1860 " , Elizabeth, 53 yrs.
And that to the best of my checking is all from Wardington PR's. If you get any further ideas as to which parishes they may have moved into get in touch, I have quite a collection of Oxon PR's now and you might be lucky to strike the right ones.
Cheers for now and glad to have been of assistance.
George.
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Once more many thanks George. Your help is very much appreciated.
Do you hold records for Tysoe?
Satchwell
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Hi again Satchwell or should that be Mel?,
Sorry I do not have records for Tysoe, that is in Warwickshire, just across the border from Shennington. I have looked in the latter records and cannot see any references whatsoever to OX families but then again you may in fact be looking for other families of different names so try me on that Parish.
Glad to have been of help.
Cheers,
George.
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Was wondering if anyone could help with my research on Joseph Beasley Canning born circa 1843 I believe to Jane Canning in Duns Tew, Oxfordshire.
Jane went on to marry Richard Weston Simkins and Joseph Beasley Canning married an Elizth. Hannah Woolams. Elizabeth died in 1870 and Joseph ended up in South Wales and married an Ellen Wixey in 1884.
Grateful for any help.
Linda
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Hi Linda I have Joseph Beasley Canning on an outer twig of my tree Will sort what I know for you in the morning Son has just walked in after a camping trip and starts a new job in the morning so I need to sort him out
I will be back but mean whie take a look at my web site
Jane Canning 's sister Ann married James Allen of middle Barton he was a 2x great uncle of mine
Trees ;D
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Right from the top
From Duns Tew Parish Register Transcripts Centre for Oxfordshire Studies (CoS)
1790 Jan 31 X CANNAN Valentine X COLLET Betty botp
Wit: William HAYNES James BAKER <regular signatory> banns
7 Ch
1. William bap 1795 25 Feb CANNON Valentine s Valentine & Betty
1814 Nov 27 X CANNING William X HARRISON Sarah botp
Wit: X Elizabeth CANNING X Sarah GARDINER banns
3children ask if you want them
2 1793 Mar 11 CANNON Richard s Valentine & Betty
1821 Dec 1 CANNING Richard bach otp X FENEMORE Ann Spin Psh Westbury Wit: Michael ALESSER X Elizabeth CANNING banns
3 1795 25 Feb CANNON Valentine s Valentine & Betty
1816 Dec 2 X CANNON Valentine bach otp X ROBINSON Sarah spin Psh of Deddington
Wit: X Robert GARDINER X Sarah WELLS Joseph CASTLE banns
9 children see below
4 1798 Apr 23 CANNON Elizabeth s Valentine & Betty
1841 Apr 19 CANNON Edward baseborn s Betsy CANNON Duns Tew
5 1799 Nov 10 CANNON Robert s Valentine & Betty
6 1801 Nov 15 CANNON James s Valentine & Betty
1823 Mar 24 X CANNON James bach otsp X BERRY Mary Psh Fenny Compton
Wit: X Elizabeth CANNON John CANNON Joseph CASTLE banns
2 ch
7 1804 Apr 1 CANNON John s Valentine & Betty
24 Jul 1826 CANNON, John, bach.
X THORNTON, Elizabeth, spin, b.o.t.p. banns.
Wit. Thomas THORNTON, XElizabeth THORNTON.
4 children
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Children of Valentine and Sarah
1 1820 Aug 6 CANNON John s Valentine & Sarah lab
11 May 1847 CANNING, John , bach, 26, lab. Dunstew, s/o Valentine, lab.
BARRETT, Martha, 31, spin Dunstew, d/o (deceased).
Wit. Henry CANNING, X Ann CANNING. Banns.
5ch
2 1822 Sep 8 CANNON Jane d Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
1843 Jun 12 CANNON Joseph Beasley baseborn s Jane CANNON
Marriage from Free BMD Q3 1844
SIMKINS Richard Weston Woodstock 16 243 looking at image this should be 213
This entry appears with others from Aston while Jane is with others from Woodstock
CANNING Jane Woodstock 16 213
1866 Feb 4 SIMKINS Susanna Sarah Mary d Richard & Jane gamekeeper Duns Tew
I have checked the date she is the only baptism for Jane and Richard I wonder if she wanted to be confirmed so had to be baptised first Here is an extractof my notes from the transcripts;Duns Tew
Transcript by Oxford Family History Society at Centre for Oxfordshire Studies, Central Library, Oxford. Printed & Bound 1996
Church of St Mary Magdalene: Woodstock Hundred and Poor Law Union
1845 Sep 28 CANNING Joseph Valentine s Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew 6590
1846 July 26 MERCER Sarah Ann d John & Sarah lab Duns Tew
1847 May 23 STOCKFORD Lydia d John & Mary lab Duns Tew
1847 July 28 MERCER Caroline d John & Elizabeth malster Duns Tew
1848 SIMKINS John Henry Richard Weston & Jane *** NOT FOUND ***
1848 Mar 26 CANNING Anne d John & Martha lab Duns Tew
1848 Mar 26 BARRETT Elizabeth d Joseph & Kezia lab Duns Tew
1849 Apr 22 CANNING Sarah d John & Martha lab Duns Tew
1850 SIMKINS Richard Richard Weston & Jane *** NOT FOUND ***
1850 Feb 17 MERCER John s John & Elizabeth malster Duns Tew
1850 Mar 17 MERCER Elizabeth d John & Sarah lab Duns Tew
1850 Apr 21 STOCKFORD Charles s John & Mary lab Duns Tew
1851 Mar 1 CANNING Elizabeth d John & Martha lab Duns Tew
By the 1851 census HO107/1730 fo150 p10
they had three chidren
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Richd Weston SIMKINS Head Mar 42 Carpenter Oxford North Aston
Jane Wife Mar 28 Dressmaker Oxford Dunstew
Susanna Daur 5 Oxford Dunstew
John Henry Son 3 Oxford Dunstew
Richard Son 1 Oxford Dunstew
Joseph CANNING Son by mother 7 Scholar Oxford Dunstew
Eliza Sister in Law U 14 Scholar Oxford Dunstew
p11
Sarah CANNING Sister in Law U 11 Scholar Oxford Dunstew
3 1827 May 13 CANNON Henry Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
4 1828 Sep 28 CANNON William s Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
1852 CANNING William 23 bach lab s Valentine lab
X ADDISON Sarah 18 spin d Thomas lab
Wit: Henry CANNING Elizabeth CORNBURY
5 1831 Sep 4 CANNON Ann Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
1851 Jun 16 ALLEN James FA bach blacksmith Middle Barton s James blacksmith
CANNING Ann FA spin d: Valentine lab
Wit: Henry CANNING X Sarah ADDISON
9 ch this is my main interest I can give you a detailed history of James Allen if required and a bit about there children Ann died aged 77 in New Zealand
6 1834 Feb 9 CANNON Elizabeth Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
7 1836 Dec 4 CANNON Eliza d Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
1858 Jul 21 HARRIS Joshua FA bach Tile maker s George lab Lic.
CANNING Eliza FA spin d Valentine baker
Wit: Henry CANNING Sarah CANNING Lic
8 1840 Feb 16 CANNON Sarah d Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
from free bmd Q3 1880
Canning Sarah Banbury 3a 917
Goodwin Charles
one known child
9 1845 Sep 28 CANNING Joseph Valentine s Valentine & Sarah lab Duns Tew
from Family Search patron submission 29 Sep 1872 married Ruth STRINGER in Duns TEW
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Joseph Beas(Z)ley RG 9/2239 fo 87 p8
1851 HO107/1730 fo150 p10 with mum
1861 RG 9/2239 fo 87 p8 apprentice wheelwright
1871 RG10/3217 fo102 p4 wid Butlers Marston Warks
could this possibly be him in 1881?? I can't find a marriage or a death for a suitable Caroline but otherwise there is a long period with out a sighting of him
CANNING, Joseph Head Married 38 Wheelwright Woodstock,
CANNING, Caroline Wife Married 32 Bromsgrove,
Piece: 3030 Folio: 68 Page: 28
Aston
1891 RG12/4441 fo 50 p17 he's a mar lodger whileEllen is here with her mum RG12/4379 fo93 p5
Children with Elizabeth Hannah
Ellen 1864
William Simkins 1865
Jane Susannah 1866
Ada 1869
Elizabeth Hannah 1870
Child with Ellen
Samuel Edwin 1884
after Elizabeth's death the children lived with their grand parents or uncle
The son became a blacksmith (like the uncle who "adopted" him they don't seem to be with joseph again
Amended to clarify
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Wow ! Thank you very much for all the information - it was so kind of you to share this with me.
I don't have the funds at present to purchase a subscription to look at the census returns and so have been working on what I could find on the free CEN and also the Family Search 1881 census - so have not unearthed a great deal.
Really surprised by the 1891 census Elizabeth Hannah is still alive and living with her children as on the 1881 census I have found their children all living separately with various members of the family, and had wrongly assumed that Elizabeth had died. Death entry in the Fbmd index. I was also struggling as on the various census indexes there are two Joseph Cannings, both around the same age, both born in Duns Tew - one an Ag Lab and the other a wheelwright.
Oh! how we all love family history!!!!
Again, many, many thanks for the time and effort taken to send me all the info.
Linda
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Sorry I have miss lead you the way i have put the children of Elizabeth after the census Elizabeth died in child birth having daughter Elizabeth hannah in 1870. Its Ellen who is with her mother while he is lodging else where
Elizabeth's children are spread between the grandparents and an uncle.
RG12/4379 fo93 p5 London Row, Main Road, Rogerstone, Rhiwderin Mon.
WIXCEY, Mary Widow 75 Llanvaches, Monmouthshire
CANNING, Ellen Daughter Married 35 Bassaleg, Monmouthshire
CANNING, Samuel E Grandson 6 Scholar Bassaleg, Monmouthshire
Joseph is here RG12/4441 fo 50 p17 Brecon Road, Merthyr Tydfil a lodger Wheelwright from Oxon
I am sure we have followed the right Joseph throughout the other one is Joseph Valentine his uncle
Trees
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Hello there, I am looking for anyone who may have a connection to or knowledge of my NICHOLS line from Duns Tew.
John Hatten NICHOLS b. abt 1810 in Duns Tew, OXF - d.1888 Oxford, OXF.
Married Susanna Mary SIMKINS 22 MAR 1838, Duns Tew, OXF.
Children
John Frederick NICHOLS b.1839
Ellen NICHOLS b.1841
Sarah NICHOLS b.1842?
Married Mary COULING 4 NOV 1847, Duns Tew, OXF.
Children
Henry NICHOLS b.1848
Eliza Ann NICHOLS b.1850
George NICHOLS b.1853
Census
1841 ?
1851 Journeyman Carpenter, Duns Tew
1861 Inn Keeper, Vicarage House, Duns Tew
1871 Inn Keeper, White Horse Inn, Duns Tew
1881 Inn Keeper, Duns Tew
Grateful for any assistance.
Cheers Steve
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Gracious me I have a Susanna Mary Simkins in Duns Tew but mine was born in 1845 daughter of Richard Weston SIMKINS and his wife Jane nee CANNING There must be a relationship.
Also John CANNING was the inn keeper of the White Horse Duns Tew in 1855
I'll see what I can find meanwhile take a look at my web site you will probbably find somethings to interest you ther
A rather excited Trees
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Well here is a start for you the missing 1841 census is HO107/889 / 17 fo 7 p8
John and Susanna are in Duns Tew with a Mary SIMKINS born between 1776 and 1781
SIMKINS, Mary 1781 Dressmaker
SIMKINS, Richard 1811 Carpenter
SIMKINS, Samuel 1821 Carpenter
OVERTON, Mitilda 1827
NICHOLS, John 1816 Joiner
NICHOLS, Susanna 1816
NICHOLS, John 1839
NICHOLS, Ellen 0 (1 months) 1841
I wonder if Mary was Susanna's mum and was Mitilda a servant or grandchild she was the only one born out of county, lots to check on
oooh I wonder if this Richard born 1806-1811 was Richard father of my Sussana Mary He was a carpenter in 1851 born North Aston He was Richard Weston Simkins born 1809
Off to do some more digging
Trees
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Hello, thanks very much for that! It certainly looks like the right household in 1841 with Mary appearing to be Susanna's mother. I wonder if your line will tie in through Richard SIMKINS?
I had a look at your website, found the below entry and was wondering if you had any extra info? I'm particularly interested as it seems to tie in the NICHOLS name at the White Horse.
The White Horse, Duns Tew.
The only Inn at Duns Tew is the 17 century coaching inn ‘The White Horse’ which is still open and has retained its flag stone floors and low beams. This was possibly the one kept by John CANNING [9669] in 1855. when he appears as an Inn keeper on his son’s marriage certificate but the Post Office Directory for 1854 has him as a shop keeper and Mrs Margaret Nichols at the White Horse.
Cheers Steve
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Hi Steve yes I think the Richard is the one on my tree from that 1841 census he was born between 1806 and 1811 and from the 52,62 and 71 censuses he was born 1809 right in the middle of that range but he is consistantly born North Aston less than 2 miles from Duns Tew so it looks good to me. Now my Richard has the second name weston which often indicates a mother's surname or even implies a child born just before a wedding so I think it will be worth a look for a wedding of a Mary Weston and a Simkins about 1809. I wonder if anyone can check the Oxfordshire marriage index for us I'll post a look up now. Sorry I haven't had a chance to check your Nichols yet though.
I am trying to remember where I got the information on the White Horse it may have been a Go...gle search again I will check but as I have written I have checked the Post Office Directory for 1854 when your Nichols were there I was trying to work out how long John Canning was Inn Keeper but it is odd that Margaret Nichols was listed there in 1854 and John Nichols there in 1861. The only thing I can think of is that Margaret was a widow and held the licence after her husband and possibly John Canning was her tenant Land Lord for a short period until her relation John took over for her. Interesting to see John Nichols is not residing at the White Horse in 1861 was he learning the trade before moving in completely Richard Westen Simkins is in the village in 1861 as a gamekeeper. I will put a look for the licences on the list of to dos in Oxford RO next time we gey up there.
The only place I have John Canning as Inn keeper is this marriage:
1855 May 31 CANNING Jesse FA bach lab s John Innkeeper
MOLE Sarah 20 spin d David tailor
Wit: Joseph BARRETT X Adelaide WILLETT
Do you know who Margaret Nichols was? She is also listed in Gardener's Directory of 1852
Nichols Margaret vict., White Horse
and a Nichols Robert Tailor
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Hi, I am just trying to locate my source for the 'Vicarage House' detail in the 1861 census as my actual census image doesn't show that. It may have been a red herring on my behalf! I also see that I actually did have some of the 1841 census info but not of the household so that's been very useful thanks.
I had been given some information many years ago but was never able to verify the persons research so cautiously I never added it in to my tree, but looking back at it I see that it does seem to tie in with what you are telling me. You can see that info at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jazsaxman3&id=I14
That gives my Susanna's father as John Frederic SIMKINS b.~1873, North Ashton. It also shows a Margaret NICHOLS and a Robert NICHOLS. I'll keep looking for its source but lost many emails a decade ago with a computer crash.
If you want to check out my tree its at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jazsaxman&id=I346
Cheers Steve
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Hi,
Just adding here for reference if needed.
There is a marriage of;
Simkins, J.F. Dunstew to a Mary Howell, Nth Aston on 1806 (no actual date mentioned)
These details are in the Oxfordshire Archdeacon’s Marriage Bond Index - 1634 - 1849
Alan
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Alan your a star that ties up very nicely my Richard is consistently from N. Aston so it looks like he is the Richard from that 1841 census and Mary was his mum so I wonder where the WESTON part of his name fits in may be it will turn out to be that of a grandmother or possibly his God parents needs more digging.Look Steve JF SIMKINS in the marriage Ribbo has sent us and you have John Frederick looks like we are on to a winner so welcome to our extended family now we need to find your John Nichols
The John Canning innkeeper by the way was the uncle of Jane Canning who married Richard Weston SIMKINS so a vague relationship.
Trees
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Hi All,
Hope this might help... from OFHS North Aston PRs...
First of all there are no baptisms for Simkins or similar..
The marriage Alan found, i can add witnesses were James Howell and Mr Goodman ( Mr Goodman is on most marriages so probably to do with church )
Burials...
16 Feb 1774 Richard Symkins
10 Aug 1806 Samuel Simkins
5 Sep 1807 Richard Weston Simkins
8 Aug 1817 Samuel Henchall Simpkins, age 10 days of Duns Tew
27 Jul 1824 Susannah Simpkins, age 95 of Duns Tew
Sue :)
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Hi Sue glad to have you on the case again somehow you always manage to turn up relavant data Many thanks. I wonder if the Richard Weston death was my Richard's grandfather? I wonder if there is a Richard Simkins /Susanna marriage in the index can you have a look for us please Alan?
Gosh at least our common line is progressing a pace Steve I am sure when the chatters get hold of the Nichols they will take off too :)
H.
By the way was there a date on the OFHS North Aston PR please?
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Hi Trees,
Have sent a PM.
Alan
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Hi Trees,
There is a marriage for a Richard Simkins in 1793 on FindMyPast in Streatley, Berks.
May be a lead.
Alan
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Hi everyone, this is very interesting thank you!
Trees, some of my old (unconfirmed) info on the NICHOLS line in Duns Tew looks a bit like this. I havent added it in to my tree as I wasnt sure with its sources. Maybe some other readers will be able to comment on it?
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=jazsaxman3&id=I01
1 Thomas Nichols b: ABT. 1747 c: ABT. 1747
+ Elizabeth Wells b: ABT. 1751 c: 19 APR 1752
2 Ann Nichols b: ABT. 1772 c: 6 JUN 1772
2 William Nichols b: ABT. 1775 c: 12 MAR 1775
+ Margaret Hatten b: ABT. 1786 c: ABT. 1786
3 Edward Nichols b: ABT. 1806 c: 2 FEB 1806
3 Eliza Nichols b: ABT. 1807 c: 28 DEC 1807
+ Thomas Herbert b: ABT. 1805
4 William Herbert b: ABT. 1832
3 John Nichols b: ABT. 1810 c: 19 FEB 1810
+ Susanna Mary Simkins b: ABT. 1813 c: ABT. 1813
4 John Frederick Nichols b: ABT. 1840
4 Ellen Nichols b: ABT. 1842
+ George Elmer b: ABT. 1837
5 Anne Elmer b: ABT. 1869
4 Sarah Nichols b: ABT. 1843
+ Thomas William Pullin b: ABT. 1843
+ Mary Couling
4 Henry Nichols b: ABT. 1848 c: 24 DEC 1848
4 Eliza Ann Nichols b: ABT. 1850 c: 28 OCT 1850
4 Anne Nichols b: ABT. 1851 c: 17 APR 1851
+ William Page b: ABT. 1856
4 George Nichols b: ABT. 1852 c: 25 JUL 1852
3 Sarah Nichols b: ABT. 1812 c: ABT. 1812
+ John Hatten b: ABT. 1810 c: 8 APR 1810
3 Daniel Nichols b: ABT. 1815 c: 5 FEB 1815
3 Thomas Nichols b: ABT. 1817 c: 1 JUN 1817
3 Charles Nichols b: ABT. 1820 c: 30 APR 1820
3 George Nichols b: ABT. 1822 c: 22 SEP 1822
3 Margaret Nichols b: ABT. 1825 c: 31 JAN 1825
+ William Andrews b: ABT. 1827
3 William Nichols b: ABT. 1827 c: 1 JUL 1827
3 Ann Nichols b: ABT. 1829 c: 17 AUG 1829
2 Richard Nichols b: ABT. 1776 c: ABT. 1776
2 Riah Nichols b: ABT. 1781 c: 20 MAY 1781
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BTW Tree, was the 1841 census info you shared transcribed or is it the original image? I believe that the birth dates for John & Susanna NICHOLS should be 1810 as opposed to 1816. Very easy for a '0' to look like a '6'.
Thanks Steve
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The marriage from North Aston is dated 22 Apr 1806...
Have you got these marriages from Duns Tew PRs ?
22 Mar 1838 John Nichols, 28, bach, carpenter, Duns Tew, son of William, Innkeeper
Susannah Mary Simpkins, 25, sp, dressmaker, Duns Tew, dau of John Frederick, road surveyor
Wits... Richard Weston Simkins, Sarah Jenning. ( note.. signs Susannah Mary Simkins )
24 Jul 1844 Richard Weston Simkins, 35, bach, carpenter, Duns Tew, son of John, road surveyor
Jane Canning, 21, sp, Duns Tew, dau of Valentine, farmer
Wits... Thomas Haynes, Margaret Nickols
There are quite a few Nichols on these PRs so if you can say what you need i will help or if there is anything else you need for other names :)
Sue
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Hi Sue, wow thanks for that.
I'm seeing some very strong connections to the SIMPKINS & CANNINGS. That's prob to be expected in such a small village at that time?
Cheers Steve
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Thanks Sue there is the Margaret Nichols again so my Richard's father was John a road contractor and we have John Frederick marrying Mary HOWELLS who is linking Susanna Mary and Richard in 1841
I think that is it
I do so agree with you Steve you have to be able to confirm the sources carefully. I don't show them on the web site as it would be immense but if you want any of the sources we have used pm me or contact me through our site :)
So William Nichols was the Innkeeper I expect he will turn out to be Margaret's husband
Onward and upward I must go and do some house work back later
H.
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Well this could be the marriage from Duns Tew....
14 Feb 1805 William Nichols to Margaret Hatten, botp
Wits...William Hatten, Sophia Merry
Sue
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That fits Steve's tree perfectly
Must go lunch calls but I keep coming back for more
H.
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The burials from Duns Tew...
14 Mar 1833 John Frederick Simkins age 63 of Duns Tew
25 Jul 1841 Mary Catherine Simkins age 66 of Duns Tew
21 Jul 1853 Susannah Simkins age 8 of Duns Tew
22 Jul 1859 William Simkins age 6 of Duns Tew
7 Aug 1882 Richard Weston Simkins age 73 of Duns Tew
27 Feb 1906 Jane Simkins age 83 of Cherington
Sue
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Again great Sue. Jane was my Jane Canning she was on the 1901 census as blind and aged 78 with her son Richard in Cherington so that is perfect
John Frederick was born 1770 that gives us a step nearer finding his birth
I had the BMD entry for little Susanna its good to add the actual date and place other than Woodstock district
I have had little William's Baptism on a different thread today it turns out the family were RC which is interesting and the first I have among our huge family#And there is my Richard confirming his birth as 1809
As always I am so grateful to you and all our chatter friends
H
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Hi everyone, I spent the afternoon looking through all the info that you have so kindly provided and have a wee look around for Margaret Nichols.
I did find her in 1841/1851 as a Publican/Innkeeper in Duns Tew, presumably following on from her deceased husband William (Innkeeper in 1838) at the White Horse as I don't believe there were any other establishments. Census info helps to flesh out some of her children and their spouses which is nice. By 1861 (aged 74) she is living by herself with a pauper lodger and next door is a similarly aged widow named Elisabeth Nichols. That now gives me another avenue to look down. Cant find her in 1871 yet although I believe she dies in 1876.
All very exciting!
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Keep at it Steve I think you're on a roll
good luck keep us informed
I'm a bit bogged down with my cousin's tree at the moment but I will get back to it asp
Trees
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Hi Steve,
Maybe i can help you a bit... From OFHS Duns Tew PRs
Baptisms..... children of William and Margaret Nichols
2 Feb 1806 Edward
28 Dec 1807 Eliza
19 Feb 1810 John
8 Jun 1812 Sarah
5 Feb 1815 Daniel
1 Jun 1817 Thomas
30 Apr 1820 Charles
22 Sep 1822 George
31 Jan 1825 Margaret
1 Jul 1827 William
17 Apr 1829 Ann
On baptism of Daniel in 1815 Williams occ was dealer in pigs. He was then mentioned as dealer up to
1825 when his occ changed to victualler.
A Robert and Elizabeth Nichols were also having children bap same time as William and Margaret.
Here is the only burial for a Margaret Nichols in Duns Tew
15 Dec 1876 Margaret age 90 of Barton
Hope this helps :)
Sue
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Hello Sue,
Thanks, that is of immense help! You been able to confirm some info I had been given a decade ago but with no sources available.
The Robert and Elizabeth NICHOLS you mentioned appears to be Williams brother and his family. I'd hope that they might show the following children in the Duns Tew PRs?
Robert married to unknown 28 Dec 1798 (wife #1)
Caralinah Nichols bap 24 Nov 1799
Maria Nichols bap 28 Oct 1804
Mary Ann Nichols bap 25 Jan 1807
Robert married to Elizabeth Wells 22 Apr 1811 (wife #2)
Elizabeth Nichols bap 05 Feb 1812
Emma Nichols bap 28 Nov 1813
Caleb Nichols bap 12 Apr 1816
Joshua Nichols #1 bap 21 Jun 1818 bur 11 Apr 1819
Eliza Nichols bap 20 Sep 1821
Hannah Nichols bap 20 Sep 1821
Joshua Nichols #2 bap 18 Aug 1824
Sophia Nichols bap 18 Sep 1828
Edwin Henry Nichols bap 2 Oct 1831 bur 04 Apr 1832
Tree,
So it seems that the Nichols family were at the White Horse from 1825 with William through to Margaret in 1854, then your John Canning in 1855, then John Nichols from at least 1861-1881 (with daughter Ellen a barmaid in 1861). Does anyone know of any other resources or references around the history of the White Horse? :)
Most appreciated, Steve
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Hi Steve,
First the marriage you wanted from OFHS Duns Tew PRs...
23 Dec 1798 Robert Nichols to Mary Messer
Wits.... Charles Gillam, Elizabeth Aris, William Nichols, Giles ?Hull
I can confirm the children and dates are right for their children but there is also this ...
1 Apr 1810 Elizabeth dau of Robert and Mary
This is the only burial i can find to fit so maybe Elizabeth was bap later :-\
4 Oct 1810 Mary Nicholls
Rest to follow.....
Sue
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Popping in briefly Oh gracious I have a family of Messer who some times use Mercer I'll check for a Mary
I think we need the RO for the quarter sessions and victualers cognisance's that will tell us who held the licence and when.The Historical Directories site has not got anything on Duns Tew before the 1852 Gardener which we have already seen I think there are some directories on An...ry will take a look I wonder if the Horse is mentioned in Victorian Britain ? but we really need further back I'll check to see if the Oxford RO catalogue is on line or else we need a trip to the RO I may be able to fit a quick trip in fairly soon.
H
Added my Mercer/Messers in Duns Tew
William m Betty CLAY 4 Oct 1795 Duns Tew
they had 9 children between 1796 and 1817 all in DT
but I have William bap 16 Aug 1767 in Sandford St Martin no parents named just "Base Born" I wonder if he was Mary's brother or cousin oh my how these families intertwine William and Betty are my direct line I need to get to the RO and see if there is a bastardy order for him.
I need a marriage for Henry CLEY/CLAY and Martha DAWS about 1740 if any one knows it please and a baptism of Francis CLAY about the same time.
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Marriage...
2 Apr 1811 Robert Nichols to Kitty Wells, botp
Wits....Sarah Dixson, Thomas Webb
Baps....
5 Feb 181 Betty d/o Robert and Betty
8 Nov 1813 Emma d/o Robert and Elizabeth, shop keeper
1 Apr 1816 Caleb s/o Robert and Betty, tailor
21 Jun 1818 Joshua, s.o Robert and Betty, tailor
20 Sep 1821 Hannah d/o Robert and Elizabeth, tailor
20 Sep 1821 Eliza d/o Robert and Elizabeth....twins
18 Aug 1824 Joshua s/o Robert and Betty, tailor
31 Dec 1826 Jonathon s/o Robert and Elizabeth, tailor
18 Sep 1828 Sophia d/o Robert and Elizabeth, tailor
2 Oct 1831 Edward Henry s/o Robert and Elizabeth, tailor
There is also this bap i found that you might like...
?? Aug 1828 William Robert Nicholls, illegitmate son of Mary Ann Nicholls, servant, London, child born there
Burials...
3 Jan 1858 Robert Nichols age 78 of Duns Tew
21 May 1866 Elizabeth Nicholls age 80 of Duns Tew
Sue :)
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Hi Hazel,
Have you got the marriage details from Duns Tew ??
4 Oct 1795 William Messer to Betty Clay, botp
Wits...Anthoney Clay, John Mercer, Bettey Baker
Will see if i can help with your other queries...
Sue :)
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Sorry cousin you're going to have to wait a bit this is hotting up nicely
oh goodness I have WELLS in Deddington and Lower Heyford
I have a burial in DT 18 Dec 1884 for Keziah MESSER/MERCER but the Kezia I have got it on was a married lady so it can't be right I needed the burial of Keziah BARRETT if you can see her now who was the 1884 Dec 18 MERCER Keziah 79 Duns Tew she is the same age as Keziah Barrett nee MESSER/MERCER
Mine was a bit naughty she had a dalliance with one Barrett brother and married another ::)
Oh golly the dalliance was with Bengamin Barrett and he married ....wait for it... MaryBishop WELLS 24 Nov 1863 DT she was from Deddington
Yes thanks Sue I have that one Anthony was Betty's brother I wonder if John Mercer is a clue
Hazel
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1836 Aug 1 BARRET/MERCER Benjamin Barrett illegitimate s Benjamin BARRETT lab & Keziah MERCER Duns Tew
1 Sep 1836
X BARRETT Joseph bach
MERCER Keziah spin botp banns
wit Richard SIMKINS Susanna Mary SIMKINS
just look at the witnesses we're back to the Simkins!
talk about circles
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I have looked for a marriage for Henry and Martha but cant find one..
I have found these baps in Duns Tew though
4 Feb 1739/40 Mary Cley d/o Henry and Martha
14 Aug 1743 Dorcas Cley d/o Henry and Martha
16 Jun 1745 Hannah Cley d/o Henry and Martha
17 Jul 1748 Rose Clay d/o Henry and Martha
3 Mar 1750/51 Anthony Clay s/o Henry and Martha
19 Feb 1755 Richard Clay s/o Henry and Martha
17 Mar 1758 Thomas Clay s/o Henry and Martha
Not sure which burial is Henry...
9 Mar 1784 Hennery Clay
19 Aug 1789 Hennery Clay
18 Dec 1803 Martha Clay, widow
Sue
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Hazel the burial in Duns Tew is as follows
18 Dec 1884 Keziah Barrett age 79 of Duns Tew...
Sue
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It gets more and more complex Jane Canning wife of Richard SIMKINs had a brother John who married Martha Barrett
Bengamin and Joseph Barrett were brothers both connected to Keziah MERCER
Martha was daughter of Thomas and Ann nee Addaway
Benjamin and Joseph were sons of John and Mary nee Andrews have you got their marriages please Sue I had them from an old( old in both meanings) acquaintance with not much detail and have yet to check it out
Were John and Thomas BARRETT brothers I wonder? So that is the rather loose conection between the Simkins ,Barretts and Mercers
Thanks for the burial must have been having a senior moment when I entred it glad its sorted :)
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Thanks for the Henry/Martha info it confirms what I had for their children but Betty was baptised daughter of Francis
1775 Aug 20 CLAY Betty d Francis & Ann
there are several An..ry trees which have Francis son of Henry and Martha but I couldn't find him among their children it is odd though If I remember correctly Henry and Martha were the only Clay couple having children baptised at that time I wonder if they married out of county and I'll find Francis when I locate the maffiage non of the An..ry tree owners can say where they got the link from just each other's trees :P
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Hi all,
I think I'll have to look at this tomorrow as its getting a little too complicated for this time of night in New Zealand haha
But I would like to add that I believe Richard and Robert NICHOLLS/NICKOLLS to be the sons of Thomas NICHOLLS/NICKOLLS and Elizabeth (Betty) WELLS. And Betty WELLS to be the daughter of Richard WELLS & Ann MARCH.
And Robert NICHOLLS/NICKOLLS's first wife Mary MERCER/MESSER to be the daughter of John MERCER/MESSER & Elizabeth (Betty) SMITH.
I have 22 pages of a NICHOLS descendency I received in 2001-2002 I received from a gentleman called Gordon Keith Hazell who never replied to my follow up emails. But I just see from a google search that Tree knows Gordon??
Ta Steve
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Duns Tew marriage
13 Oct 1793 John Barrett to Mary Andrews (x) botp
Wits... Thomas Preedy, John Preedy
Sue
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Good night Steve sleep well Don't dreem of Messers Wells etc
Thanks for the wedding sue I'm off to cook Sunday dinner back later
Hazel
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Ok some baps from Duns Tew....hope these are the ones you wanted...
Children of Nathaniel and Betey Barrett
22 Nov 1764 John
26 May 1766 Ann and Marey
2 Nov 1767 Elizabeth
21 Apr 1769 Martha, ( mother Elizabeth )
26 Dec 1770 Frances
1 Oct 1773 William
22 Apr 1776 Thomas
19 Feb 1778 Sarah
14 Feb 1781 Nathaniel
And the marriage
30 Jun 1765 Nathaniel Barrett to Betty Snelson, botp
Wits... William Barnes, James Baker
Sue
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Children of Francis and Ann Clay from Duns Tew..
14 Jul 1763 John
1 Oct 1767 Anthony
15 Nov 1771 Francis
20 Aug 1775 Betty
Again i can find no marriage, not even on OMI to fit....
Sue
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Thanks Sue I am thinking more and more that the marriage was out of county Berkshire? possibly so a trip to reading is on the cards too