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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: poobear on Saturday 21 July 07 10:48 BST (UK)
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Looking for any people researching the Shaw Family who lived at Kilsyth, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
My main interest is John Shaw who married Mary Laing and their 9 sons
Alexander Shaw
John Shaw
Robert Shaw
James Shaw
William Shaw
Cuthbert Shaw
David Shaw
Matthew Shaw
Thomas Shaw
but I am also researching several other Shaw Family Lines
Any help appreciated
Donna Shaw
New Zealand
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Hi Donna,
Welcome to Rootschat!
Can you suppy any more information or rough dates for your Shaw family?
I have the pre-1855 MI's for Kilsyth Old Churchyard and there are dozens of Shaws buried there. I had a wee look through them but none seem to match your John and Mary Laing.
Do you know if and how many of their 9 sons survived - or who they married?
Once we establish a time frame, it'll be a lot easier to try and track them down.
Anne
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Hi Anne,
John Shaw born 9th Feb 1799 married Mary Laing born 13th August 1805, they lived all their lives in Kilsyth.
Their Children
Alexander Shaw married 5th June 1852 to Elizabeth Leishman at Kilsyth, they had 1 son John Shaw.
They stayed in Scotland and lived in Glasgow.
John Shaw married 11th Dec 1852 to Janet Cook at Kilsyth they had a family of 8 children (John, Alexander, Elizabeth, Mary, Robert, Rebecca Russel, William Cook, Janet Cook. They moved to Australia and lived in Daylesford.
Robert Shaw married 20th June 1868 to Margaret Morrison at Union, USA. They had a family of 4 children (Mary Ann, John M, Margurette, Robert). They moved to the USA and lived in Oregon.
James Shaw married 28th Nov 1853 Helen Cherry at Denny, Scotland. They had 1 daughter Agnes. They moved to NZ and lived in Auckland.
William Shaw married 6th Nov 1857 to Hannah Frew Eaton at Kilsyth. They had a family of 6 children ( John & William (twins), Robert, Farquahar, Ellen, Meara (mary). They moved to the USA and lived in Oregon.
Cuthbert Shaw married 5th April 1861 to Jane Smith. They had a family of 4 children (George Arthur, Margaret Smith, Mary Laing, Janet Johnston Halliday)
They stayed in Scotland and lived at Rothesay.
David Shaw married 24th June 1862 to Margaret Stevenson at Kilsyth. They had a family of 14 children ( John William, James, David Stevenson, Alexander, Margaret, Robert, William Laing, Cuthbert, George Barclay, Mary Laing, Agnes Ellen Smith, William, thomas, Mary Elizabeth). They moved to NZ and lived in Geraldine. This is my family line..
Matthew Shaw married 1st Jan 1869 to Sarah Ross at Kilsyth. They had 8 children ( John, Alexander, David Ross, Matthew, Mary McDowal, Robert, Cuthbert, Sara Jane). They stayed in Scotland and lived in Glasgow. Matthew remarried to Sara Wardrop.
Thomas Shaw married 30th Jan 1872 to Helen Tunnoch at Kilsyth. They had 10 chidlren( John Thomas, Nellie Frew, Mary Laing, Thomas Farquhar, Alexander L, Agens, Margaret, Lena C, Robert Stanley) They moved to the USA and lived in Oregon.
If anyone has any information on these Shaw lines I would be greatful. Also researching other Shaw lines that lived at Kilsyth.
Cheers Donna Shaw
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Hi Donna,
I had a wee look on the British Vital Records (the CD version of the IGI) and found that your John Shaw was born 5th February 1799 and christened on 9th February 1799 in Kilsyth and is listed as the only child born to Alexander Shaw and Elizabeth Anderson. This info is exactly the same on the online IGI.
There is a submitted entry of John's death as 9th August 1867, however this is the correct John.
The death cert states:
John Shaw, Cotton Weaver, married to Catherine Laing died 6th August 1867 at Kingston, Kilsyth aged 68. Father Alexander Shaw, mother Elizabeth Anderson, both deceased.
I have sent you a PM.
Anne
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Hi Donna,
I have only just found this family, but it was on another web site. If I,m correct and these other people are correct Mary LAING's parents were John LAING & Barbara LAIRD??. This John LAING is my 5th Great Uncle.
The family are the same, BUT I am actually looking for certificates etc to confirm parents, siblings etc.
Would love to swapp notes etc with you if you are keen to.I reckon I can put you in contact with other people to if we can verify parents etc.
Regards Leanne
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Hi Donna, have also just noticed you have a Mary LAING born 13th August 1805, sorry that might be the wrong MARY Laing, as this Mary MARRIED William WEBSTER. The Mary you want was born 13th April 1806, as her parents were John LAING & Barbara LAIRD.
Leanne
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I've heard of a "Tiger Shaw" and a Shaw who tuned pianos! both Kilsyth......Skoosh.
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The Shaw who was the piano tuner was Al Shaw from Kilsyth.
He also had a band called Al Shaw and the Bluebirds who played in Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch Miners Welfare.
I think Tiger Shaw was a footballer with Rangers.
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The Shaw who was the piano tuner was Al Shaw from Kilsyth.
He also had a band called Al Shaw and the Bluebirds who played in Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch Miners Welfare.
I think Tiger Shaw was a footballer with Rangers.
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Jock' Tiger' Shaw.
www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-5072288.html
regards,Billy
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I am also looking for Shaws in Kilsyth but, it seems, not the Shaw line being searched above.
I am looking for information on James Shaw b. 1819 d. 18 Dec 1884 (age 65) and his wife, Eliza Boyd b. 1821 d. 1889 (age 68). Both are buried in the Kilsyth Old Churchyard (entry #408 - not sure if that is the lair # or not).
I would like to know where they were born and when they were married and if they had any children. I couldn't find any further information stated on a search of Kilsyth Old Churchyard records.
MJ
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Hi omap/MJ,
James Shaw's death certificate is available from Scotland's People ( www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk )
SP is a 'pay per view' site where you have to purchase credits to view/download BMD certs/Census Returns etc.
On the DC, the information you are likely to get is: Full name, marital status and to whom married, exact date and time of death, age, occupation, parents names + father's occupation and cause of death.
There is only 1 James Shaw who died in Kilsyth in 1884 (age 65), so it must be him! I didn't have enough credits to have a look at it for you.
Once you get this, then do the same for Eliza, you'll have both sets of parents names and hopefully will then be able to track them on Census Returns
(Kilsyth is listed under Stirlingshire.)
Anne
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Thanks Anne....not able to buy credits at Scotland's people at the moment so maybe I will run across someone with information on these people. They might show up on pre1855 index somewhere.
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James Shaw born 6th April 1819 in Kilsyth. He died on 16th Dec 1884 in Kilsyth. His occupation was a cotton weaver. I have him down as marrying a Ann Boyd on 5th Sept 1839 in Kilsyth.
Ann Boyd born 1818 in Glasgow and she died on 29th Jan 1889 in Kilsyth.
Her parents were Robert Boyd and I can't quite make out his wife's name except it was Ann also.
The Shaws are part of my tree too.
Wilton Endeavour
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James Shaw and Ann Boyd had 11 children. These were as follows:-
Ann 1840 - 1892
Janet 1842
James 1844
Margaret 1846
Robert 1849 - 1920
Alexander 1852
Jane 1854
Elisabeth 1856
Christian 1859 - 1941
Agnes 1861
Thomas 1863
Hope this helps
Wilton Endeavour
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Wilton:
Sorry...answered your PM before reading your previous posting...and mistook you for a different poster!! Your Shaw/Boyd doesn't look like it connects to my Boyd family unless your Ann's parents are John Boyd and Janet Livingstone. I do have a 9 year gap between John & Janet's oldest child, Margaret b. 1811 Kilsyth and the second child I have for them is Wilson b 1820 Kilsyth which could put your Ann in there but I don't have any information on Ann to tie in. For now at any rate! ;D
MJ
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The attached photo might solve one wee mystery .......
Looks like Eliza Boyd & Ann Boyd were the same person ANN ELIZA BOYD.
Anne
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Hi MJ:
I have both Boyd connections your talking about. Perhaps if we could exchange information. Do you use Ancestry or GenesReunited?
Cheers,
John Shaw
btw Hi Donna Shaw (Poobear) and Wilton Endeavour
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Hello John,
just to let you know that you need to post three messages before you can begin to use the Personal Message system on here. You can then use that facility. But you cannot give out your e-mail address unless you do so by personal message.
Welcome aboard to Rootschat John. I'm sure you will find lots to look through on here.
yours
Wilton Endeavour
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Thanks to Wilton..much appreciate your efforts.
Anne- what cemetary/churchyard is that headstone in? Thnx..... I saved it to my file.
John - my Ancestry subscription ran out....can only access my data now....can't view docs ...will be awhile before I can renew my Ancestry subscription. Can we exchange info by email? I can PM you my email addie if you like. I believe the above Ann Eliza Shaw may be in my family line and trying to establish she is the right Eliza Boyd m. to James Shaw. My g g grandmother was Helen Ann Young Boyd. Do you have a lot of Boyd's in your data collection? I have them back to the 1750s James Boyd m. Margaret Gilchrest.
Thanks again everyone.....MJ
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The stone is in Kilsyth Churchyard.
Your previous post:
"I am looking for information on James Shaw b. 1819 d. 18 Dec 1884 (age 65) and his wife, Eliza Boyd b. 1821 d. 1889 (age 68). Both are buried in the Kilsyth Old Churchyard (entry #408 - not sure if that is the lair # or not). "
Anne
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Thanks Anne.... wanted to make a note of where the gravestone was located. Never know....I might win a lottery and get to travel to Scotland...... will call ahead and stop for tea!! lol
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Re: James Shaw and Ann Eliza Boyd
408 Jas SHAW 18 Dec 1884 age 65, wife Eliza BOYD 1889 age 68
This is from:
Pre 1855 inscriptions Kilsyth Old Churchyard
These Inscriptions are believed to have been surveyed in May 1969 - source of work is uncertain at present.
Also:
Death Record -1889 Anna Liza Shaw, Widow of James Shaw Cotton Weaver
Died: 29 Jan 1889, UP Lane, Kilsyth, Age 68 yrs.
Parents: Robert Boyd, Cotton Weaver & Ann Boyd MS Unknown
Cause: Cancer of the Stomach, 2 years, Jane Jarvie, daughter, present
Also census record show Ann Boyd as born in Glasgow - but don't know any other info on her. If any have, I would appreciate assistance you could render.
Cheers,John Shaw
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Hi Shaweb,
Welcome to Rootschat!
In your above post, you said that you believed the source of the pre-1855 Mi's to be uncertain ......
I think it's almost certain that they came from 'West Stirlingshire Monumental Inscriptions pre 1888' by John Fowler Mitchell & Sheila Mitchell. They surveyed the Churchyard in May 1969 - too much of a co-incidence for it not to be the same source?
Anne
P.S. Anyone wishing to purchase the above book (or others in the series) should have a look here: http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/ - they cost in the region of £10/12.
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Hi Donna
I'm a newbie but interested in the Mahan family from Ireland who moved to Oamaru I am sending a note here as the Mahan thread seems to be a couple of years old, wonder if you had found out more than on the Mahan thread.
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HI there MahanAnne,
I have sent you a personal message. Keen to exchange information with you on the Mahan Family. Your Robert and my Annie Maria were brother and sister.
Cheers Donna