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I've just received a marriage certificate for my great grandparents, very exciting as I know nothing about this line at all and there is nobody living with any information.
I would be very grateful if someone can find any of-
Mary Jane Russell born c 1879, father Robert Russell, coal weigher. Address in 1903 is Harriet St, Cardiff.
William Thomas born c1882, pastry chef. Father is George Thomas, iron dresser. Address in 1903 is Cotrell Rd, Cardiff.
Thank you very much for any help.
Louise
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Hi Louise,
I can see the Russells in 1891 for a start ...
1891
RG12/4392 58 4 & 5
Cardiff St John, Glamorgan
56 Thesiger? St
Robert Russell, head, 48, Weigher, b. Scotland
Jane, wife, 48, b. do.
Margaret, dau, 21, Bookseller, b. Flint Whitford
John, son, 18, Engine Cleaner, b. do.
Robert, son, 16, Bakers Assistant, b. do.
Mary J, dau, 13, Bookseller, b. do.
Isabella, dau, 11, scholar, b. leicester Woodham
William, son, 8, scholar, b. Mon Abergavenny
English spoken for all.
:)
1881 in Cheshire:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=1627790
RG11/3562 26 48
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This could be Mary Jane in 1901 working in a hotel.
1901 Glamorganshire, Cardiff
85-88 St Mary St
Mary J Russell 23 kitchenmaid born Leicestershire, Woodhouse.
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Sister Isabella working at the same hotel in 1901
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I agree Alison :D - especially as there's also her little sister Isabel M 8)
Parents:
RG13/4978 56 35 & 36
38 Harriet Street
Robert Russell, head, 58, Coal Weigher, b. Scotland
Jane, wife, 58, b. do.
Margaret, dau, s, 31, Book something), b. Whitford Flint
Minnie James, dau, wid, 30, b. do.
Ethel James, granchild, 11, b. Cardiff
Alexander James, grandchild, 9, b. do.
Robert James, grandchild, 7, b. do.
Minnie James, grandchild, 4, b. do.
Violet Tarman, grandchild, 10 mo, b. do
Leonard Hunnicliff?, boarder, 23, Stoker Railway, b. leicester Hungerton
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Wow thank you that was so quick and lots of really interesting information, I'm paticularly excited to find Scottish ancestors, that's new and now I can try to find which hotel they were working at, and did Mary Jane meet her husband there as he was a chef? Thank you so much.
And I noticed a mysterious little grandchild with a different surname, lots to investigate ;D
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1871
RG10/5638 13 17
Whitford, Flintshire
Tremostyn?
Robert Russell, head, 28, Estate Bailiff, b. Scotland (can't read)
Jane, wife, 30, b. do.
Alexander, 3, b. do.
Margaret, dau, 1, b. Flintshire Whitford
Wilhelmina, dau, 3 mo, b. do.
Have a look at the IGI - There's a possible birth for Alexander on there 8)
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now I can try to find which hotel they were working at
Reference is RG13/4981 75 16
Big place but it doesn't give the hotel name :(
Added: There is a William Thomas, but he isn't a pastry chef (yet?)
William Thomas, serv, 19, Porter Domestic, b. Monmouth Cwmbran?
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1891
RG12/4386 134 75
Cardiff Roath, Glamorgan
98 Cyfart** St
George Thomas, head, 42, Iron Dresser, b. Mon Blaina
Mary A, wife, 37, b. Mon Newport
Henry C, son, 11, Ironmongers Assistant, b. Cwmbran Mon
William, son, 9, scholar, b. Cwmbran Mon
Bertha A, dau, 7, scholar, b. Cardiff
Edith, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
Florence, dau, 3, b. do.
Matilda, dau, 2, b. do.
EDIT: Don't think he's the one in the hotel after all :( :( The family is still together in 1901 and Wm Thomas, son, 21, Engineers Steward is still at home Address is 132 Cottrell Road. Will post details in a mo.
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Funny - it's the 2nd time this week that I find someone based on a wrong assumption ;D
1901
RG13/4974 73 11
Cardiff Roath
132 Cottrell Rd
George Thomas, head, 40*, Iron Steel Dresser, n. Mon Blaina
Mary Ann, wife, 39*, b. Monmouth Newport
H Chas, son, 22, Actor?, b. Mon Cwmbran
Wm, son, 21, Engineers Steward, b. do.
Bertha, dau, 18, Mother's help, b. Cardiff
Edith, dau 17, b. do.
Florence, dau, 16, b. do.
Matilda, dau, 14, b. do.
Benj, son, 12, b. do.
Eric Geo, son, 10, b. do.
Samuel Bevan, lodger, s, 25
*not my typo :P
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Thank you so much, I found the Hotel in Historical Directories, it's called the Royal and is still there. I feel half convinced that the William in the hotel is the same William recorded in both places, I have other examples of people being on the census twice. But that I will never know unless I find a descendant who knows the story I suppose.
This is all very exciting for me as it's all so new, also being born and bred in Wales myself I consider myself a Celt through and through but many of my ancestors have turned out to be English so these Russells and Thomases are coming up trumps so far.
Thank you again for your time and effort, it's much appreciated.
Louise :D