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Title: Help with regiment ID
Post by: pyrogena on Friday 13 July 07 02:50 BST (UK)
Hi,

Can anyone offer any assistance in identifying my Great-Grandfathers regiment? I'm including two pictures - one is from his wedding day and the other shows him somewhere in the field. We have no idea if this was in England or overseas - any possible comment on that would be appreciated too.

Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: old rowley on Friday 13 July 07 07:36 BST (UK)
Hi Pryogena and welcome to rootschat and the armed forces board. Without a close up of the cap badge it looks like he was a colour sergeant in the 5th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers). If this is the case then the badge would be made up of crossed rifles which has the garter overlaid in the centre surmounted by the crown and set between the rifle butts is the word "carabiniers" in scroll work.  What was you rellies name? as some one on here might be able to help you by finding out more. If you post the second photograph on the photograph restoration board and ask for a restore I am sure that someone will clean it up and get rid of the foxing on it for you.

old rowley
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: RobertS on Friday 13 July 07 13:16 BST (UK)
Hi,
I'd go for 6th Dragoon Guards Carabiniers
Robert
I think this is it
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: pyrogena on Friday 13 July 07 14:44 BST (UK)
Hi - thanks for the info so far. His name was Harry Sidney Stride - I have another photo of him in uniform (but with no badges etc) and it was taken in Winchester. I've attached it.

The wedding picture would be from 1917. I also know that my great-grandparents met in Ipswich...and Harry was in uniform at the time. Not entirely sure what year they met though.

There's another photo, which I don't have with me unfortunately, that shows him on the back of a motorcycle - don't know if that helps with anything but thought I'd mention it!

I'll also post the second picture in the photo restoration thread - thank you!
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: Dagenham Steve on Thursday 19 July 07 15:00 BST (UK)
Don't discount the fact that the cap badge might be that of the Hampshire Yeomanry, who had an affiliation with the 5th Dragoon Guards and wore a similar cap badge.

Steve



Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: Dagenham Steve on Thursday 19 July 07 15:04 BST (UK)
I meant to say 6th Dragoon Guards!!!
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: battiscombe on Wednesday 15 August 07 19:53 BST (UK)
I also think this is the Hampshire Yeomanry (a badge very like the 6th DGds-Carabiniers)and I believe I have another photo of Harry Stride from a group photo of the NCOs with Colonel and Adjutant perhaps - I would guess prewar - see attached - a photographers at Uckfield I think in Sussex (?) - perhaps on training cam

Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: battiscombe on Wednesday 15 August 07 20:02 BST (UK)
soory that message left without the picture - try again
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: scrimnet on Wednesday 15 August 07 21:22 BST (UK)
Ooooh

I'd soooo like it to be 6th DG...My grandfather was in from 1896...The early pic (1st one with jam pot cuffs...) might well have had him on it....

I also have a 6th DG riding crop, almost exactly like the one in the last pic....

But.....

As granddad was in South Africa with the Regt, and had QSA and KSA medals I would have expected to see at least some uniforms with them on...especially the RSM!!!

There appear to be no medal ribbons around at all, just the one chap with one medal on the first pic...

Have you found his attestation sheet??
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: scrimnet on Wednesday 15 August 07 21:34 BST (UK)
OK...

I am going with Hampshire Yeomanry....

It's the shoulder title wot won it...

6th DG during that period would have just that....6DG... as a shoulder...Your cahp has a double one, one word over another...Ergo...Hampshire over Yeomanry...
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: forester on Wednesday 15 August 07 22:47 BST (UK)
Hello all,

The 1/1st Hampshire Yeomanry were at Forest Row camp (a few miles north of Uckfield), off and on, between Oct 1914 and July 1915 as part of 1/1st South West Mounted Brigade.

Was the Uckfield photographer Arthur Windsor SPICE? I have several postcards by him, which, I think, were taken at one of the camps on Ashdown Forest. (Forest Row, Crowborough or Maresfield). Unfortunately, until I find out which regiments, I can't identify the camp.

Phil
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: battiscombe on Sunday 04 November 07 20:26 GMT (UK)
relating to this message in the summer, the Hampshire Yeomanry photo was indeed by Arthur Windsor Spice so these may well be 1/1 Hampshire Yeo at Forest Row .. so that fits..
david
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: forester on Sunday 04 November 07 22:05 GMT (UK)
Hello battiscombe,

I'd forgotten all about this thread.
Since my last post I have discovered that 2/1 Hampshie Yeomanry were at Maresfield Camp (just outside Uckfield) from 19th October 1915 to at least 29th February 1916 as part of 2/1 South West Mounted Brigade. Unfortunately the Home Service war diary at Kew ends here. Whether the HY were in the area pre-war, I don't know.

Any chance of you posting the full photo by A W Spice?
My postcards by him can be seen on this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,253903.0.html  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,253903.0.html)

Regards,
Phil
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: battiscombe on Sunday 04 November 07 23:28 GMT (UK)
I'll scan the whole thing - in the meantime here are the officers -- with a similar line in moustachios .

Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: battiscombe on Monday 05 November 07 17:09 GMT (UK)
Herewith picture of Hants Yeomanry from Spicer studio (name embosed on lower right side of mounting card)
Title: Re: Help with regiment ID
Post by: forester on Monday 05 November 07 22:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks battiscombe,

What an excellent picture.

If it was taken 1915 onwards, my first choice would be Maresfield Park Camp.

If you know any of the officer's names, one of my sources of information was a thread on the Great War Forum with a transcript of 1/1 Hants Yeomanry war diary.

Regards,
Phil