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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: vhar on Wednesday 11 July 07 19:10 BST (UK)
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Please can anyone help me with my brickwall. I am trying to find where my ancestor Simon Finch was born, the first record I have is of 2 son baptisms in Kersey in 1717 so I assume Simon was born around 1690ish. The frustrating thing is on his burial record in 1728 it states Simon finch of Creighton. I have checked Creeting, Cretingham, Gorton and Kirton as there is no such place as Creighton in suffolk, in fact the only place by this name is near Uttoxeter and I have checked there. If anyone has any parish records for a place beginning with C or K can they check to see if there are any Finches. Family names are Simon Samuel Edward Joseph James John. I am not familiar with the Suffolk accent so if anyone has any suggestions as to the place they think the Vicar meant when he wrote Creighton I would be very pleased to hear them. The only thing I can think is that however the place Hadleigh was pronounced then (1728) then my place must sound something like the end ie the eigh part. thanks
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Hi Vhar
have a look at this site www.cosford-database.co.uk/ and enter finch in the search there a a lot of finches some from Kersey..........might help
sandie
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Have you considered that Creighton might have been the name of a property in the village.
There was an Augustinian Priory (remains are at Priory Farm), many of the old buildings still in the village would have been there in your ancestors time.
If you try to find out more about the name Creighton it will take you back to the Scottish Crighton.
Do you have a scan of this entry that we could take a look at for you ? ;)
Regards, SM ...
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Hi thanks, no I dont have a scan as I am working from the fiche at the moment, still waiting on the photocopy. The burial entry states "Simon Finch of Creighton".
Val
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If this is how its spelt, its possible it could refer to somewhere outside of Suffolk.
A possibility is just the place he was living when he died and not where he was originally from.
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With a Suffolk accent, Creeting would be prounounced "Creet'n"
Cretingham - "Cretinum"
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Hi, I have just found your entry here, not noticed it since 2007! Did you have any luck? Did anyone reply to you?
I have the Finches in my direct line and I have the same problem with this record for Simon. I cannot find this village anywhere....so I am trying to "Think outside the box" so to speak. My records are very thin but I am in the direct line of Edward Finch 1721 Kersey.
Thanks
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hi, no I couldnt find him anywhere, also the parish records were getting difficult to be confident that I had the correct direct line as all brothers/families all used the same few forenames. Where are you up to.... so we are distant relatives.
val nee finch
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Hi Val
I am at the same point as you. I was making use of the free Find My Past weekend and came across his record. Having had a good look around, I do think that Creighton is a house name?. The trouble is Finch is a common surname and there are lots of them, esp in Kersey but I did find a few in Middlesex.
No new information I'm afraid
My line is through Edward then John then Elizabeth. Who are your line?
Regards Jenny
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SIMON FINCH:
On his burial records the Vicar has written " Simon Finch of Creighton" the only place written like this is in
Staffordshire near Uttoxeter and I have checked the Parish records and there are no Finches mentioned. All
spelling was done phonetically then so it could be the spelling of another village in Suffolk eg Groton, Kirton,
Creeting, Cretingham,Sproughton, however I have searched all these Parishes and cannot find any mention of
a Finch. If the vicar was not from Suffolk the local accent may have confused him. The village next to Kersey
is Hadleigh so this could explain the spelling of Creighton.
On the Parish records for his burial it states "buried in Woollen" This refers to the Burial in Woollen Acts of
1667 & 1678. These Acts were attempts to protect the English Wool Trade and required that all bodies
should be buried in wool with the exception of those who died from the
Plague. A Five pound fine was imposed for burials which did not comply with
the Acts. By 1814 the Acts were repealed
I have a feeling that this Simon could be related to Finches in Poslingford and Fressingfield as all three Parish
records first record a Finch entry around 1715 after the eldest Finch had moved there after being married and
born somewhere else. The details are
Fressingfield Baptisms
c1700 Simon Finch unknown place of birth
1713 5 MarchSimon Son of Simon Finch and ---- his wife was baptised
1715 8 DecemberFrancis Son of Simon Finch and ---- his wife was baptised
1718 7 FebThomas buried 1718 Son of Simon Finch and ---- his wife was baptised
1719 5 SeptSarahDaug of Simon Finch was baptised
1721 17 Dec Mary Daug of Simon finch was baptised
1723 13 March Jonathan Son of Simon Finch and ----- his wife was baptised
1726 Lydia Daug of Simon & Sarah Finch baptised
1728 7 AprilThomas & Edmund?Sons of Simon and Sarah Finch baptised
1729 12 Oct Samuel Son of Simon and Sarah Finch baptised
Poslingford Finches
C1700-1775 Thomas FinchUnknown place of birth
1724 Simon FinchSon of Thomas and Alice
1738 Elizabeth FinchDaughter of Thomas and Alice
1740 Samuel Finch Son of Thomas and Alice
1743 Thomas FinchSon of Thomas and Alice
1745 John Finch Son of Thomas and Alice
1748 William Finch Son of Thomas and Alice
1751 Ann FinchDaughter of Thomas and Alice
1753 Mary Finch Daughter of Thomas and Alice
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hi sorry havent looked at this for years but below is the generations back from my grandad jesse Finch
JESSE7 FINCH (GEORGE6, JOHN5, JAMES4, SIMON3, EDWARD2, SIMON1)
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This line is back up through my great grandad, sorry it hasnt copied very well
George Finch
b: 06 May 1861
d: 06 Jan 1934
m: 27 Mar 1896 in The Parish Church Liverpool
Ada Lacey
b: 07 Oct 1878
d: 30 Nov 1949
John Finch
b: 23 Oct 1823
d: 15 Nov 1869
m: 27 May 1852 in Stepney, Middlesex (London)
Maria East
b: 1830
d: 1903
James Finch
b: 12 Oct 1783
d: 08 Mar 1851
m: 07 Feb 1810 in Great Bentley Essex
Susan(nah) Morris
b: 1788
d: 13 Jan 1846
Simon Finch
b: 07 Oct 1748
d: 05 May 1813
m: 28 Sep 1773 in Elmstead Essex
Elizabeth Gray
b: 1749
d: 21 Dec 1814
Edward Finch
b: 26 Jun 1721
d: Abt. 1797
Elizabeth
Simon Finch
b: Abt. 1694
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Thanks for the information Val, nice to see that 2 of Edwards children survived and prospered.
I will continue on my search for the maiden names of Edwards wife Elizabeth and Simons wife Ann, as yet, I have been unable to find their marriages but keep hoping that something will turn up as time moves on.
I will keep you informed if I find anything more. Regards jenny
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Hi Val and Jenny. Have just found this post after finding that I might be related to the Kersey Finches. It seems that my ancestor was Elizabeth King (nee Finch), born 1743, daughter of Edward, and granddaughter of Simon.
Just wanted to say "Hi Cousins!", and see if anyone's had any luck with the older Elizabeth or Ann's birth names...?
Cheers!
Mary
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hi don't know if you are still active on roots web or not but....
i have found out that Simon Finch and his wife Ann were my 8th ggp's
whilst i have as yet to find his baptism
what is clear though is that
Simon was buried 3rd of Jan 1733 in Kersey,
and this released Ann to go on and marry
Thomas hall(s) on the 20 may 1733 in Kersey.
Ann died 12 Sep 1763 in Kersey.
Thomas was possible baptised
22 Sep 1698 in stoke by Nayland parents Thomas and Sarah
it looks as if he married some one called Mary around 1723 but i have failed to find the marriage and likewise his burial remains elusive
This is as far as i have got with simon and Ann at this time other than they had 4 known children
Simon and John were baptised 11 may 1717,
Samuel was baptised 26 OCT 1719
Edward was baptised 26 Jun 1721 all in Kersey
i descend via john.
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I too have hit a brick wall with my research into the Finch family. I have traced my ancestors back to John Finch b 1756 married to Mary Kinnerly in Etwall Derbyshire 30 October 1782. There is a tree in FamilySearch that suggests that his his parents were Edward Finch b 1721 and Elizabeth b 1724 and that his grandparents were Simon Finch b 1690 married in Kersey to Ann about 1716. As a novice is it possible from the limited records that are available to be reasonably sure of this heritage. The baptism records that I can find index's which don’t mention the parents name. Is any family tree accurate before 1841 or is it just guesswork. If there is proof where should I be looking.