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Title: Maiden Names on Marriage Certificates
Post by: mikemackean on Monday 09 July 07 21:07 BST (UK)
Has anyone else experienced the bride giving her mother's maiden name on the marriage certificate, rather than her own?  I have two cases, on completely different branches of my tree.

My great grandmother was shown as Mary Ann Trim, a widow aged 22 on her marriage certificate in 1881.  Her father was shown as William Osborne Ivey, so I knew Mary Ann's maiden name.  It wasn't until I found her father William's marriage certificate, that his wife's maiden name was revealed, Amelia Trim!  Now did Mary Ann marry a Trim?  I've found no marriage recorded, or death of Mr Trim. 

On another branch Susannah Andrews married my great great grandfather James Read in 1853.  Her older sister Mary Ann Masters witnessed the ceremony, and in the section to record the father's name it showed 'Mother's name Charlotte Andrews'.  Why wasn't her father Thomas Masters shown?  He was still alive at the time at the time of the marriage, and both he and Charlotte lived together for nearly 60 years, with their 10 children.   Perhaps Thomas wasn't her father, although he and Charlotte had been married 4 years by the time Susannah was born? 

I wonder if both women misunderstood what the meaning of maiden name meant?  Or did the clerk misunderstood what he was being told?  Either way, I wonder if anyone else has experienced this anomaly?
Title: Re: Maiden Names on Marriage Certificates
Post by: cheshiremog on Tuesday 10 July 07 00:02 BST (UK)
Dear Mike,

who did Mary Ann marry? Is she the Mary Ann Trim on the 1881 census living in Bristol, born Westower, Dorset and has a daughter called Charlotte Todd?
Free BMD can't tell the marriage reference and therefore doesn't give spouse name.
When did Amelia and William marry and where? No Trim and Ivey record of marriage.
I haven't deciphered the second part, will try tomorrow.

Mog.
Title: Re: Maiden Names on Marriage Certificates
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 13 July 07 14:58 BST (UK)

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Mary Ann Trim, a widow aged 22 on her marriage certificate in 1881

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Her father was shown as William Osborne Ivey, so I knew Mary Ann's maiden name.  It wasn't until I found her father William's marriage certificate, that his wife's maiden name was revealed, Amelia Trim!

It could be possible that Mary Ann did marry a Mr ??, but reverted back to her maiden name for her second marriage. 

I know that it is very common practise today.....two of my friends have done exactly the same thing.  They weren't asked to provide any proof either.


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it showed 'Mother's name Charlotte Andrews'.  Why wasn't her father Thomas Masters shown?  He was still alive at the time of the marriage, and both he and Charlotte lived together for nearly 60 years, with their 10 children.   Perhaps Thomas wasn't her father

Not very helpful......but, only the mother really knows the father of her child ;) ;D