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Can anyone please help me find the marriage of Richard Woon and Jane Hambley around 1772 in Redruth. I have 2 children born to Richard and Jane from 1773 but cannot find a marriage.
Also can anyone find a marriage between (male)PELL and (female possibly Mary) WOON around 1810. There is a Rebecca Hambly Pell born around 1810 who is related to the Woon family. She married in 1836 in New Zealand.
Thanks,
Heather
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Hi Heather,
I am sorry these events did not occur in Redruth. I can see no Woon marriages at all in Redruth before 1812 I am afraid. There is also no sign of this marriage between Richard and Jane indexed elsewhere in Cornwall.
Without further information on the Pell marriage It will be hard to find, without knowing just where it occurred, but it did not occur in Redruth before 1812.....Sorry.......Kris :'(
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Thanks so much Kris. Will keep looking for more clues.
Cheers.
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http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org
24 Dec 1835 Richard PELLOW Ann WOON Phillack
wild card
sylvia
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Thanks Sylvia,
certainly worth checking. Can anyone find a Pell / Hambley marriage arround the 1800's.
Cheers,
Heather
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Hi Heather,
The name PELL does not appear to be Cornish. There are very few occurrances of the name anywhere in Cornwall. There is no marriage of a PELL/WOON or PELL/HAMBLEY. Sorry. Either the marriage did not occur in Cornwall or the name may have been corrupted. The name PAUL/L springs to mind, but hasn't helped me I am afraid. There is a Rebecca PAUL born in Redruth, parents Thomas and Mary, but no marriage. The marriage certificate for Rebecca Hambley PELL should help. I cannot find a birth for Rebecca Hambley PELL listed anywhere in England on the IGI, so we really are up against it here...........Kris :'(
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Thanks Kris,
Yes they are hard to find. Will need to get that marriage certificate only I think the NZ records dont start until 1840.
Cheers,
Heather
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Oh thats a pity Heather. I don't have any knowledge of NZ Records. I hoped that cert would list her father's name. What are their death Certs Like? Do they list parents? .............Kris :D
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what did i do wrong this time
sylvia
book 9 folio 37 page 24
St. Keyne
1841
1 Castle Street
Richard Woon40 Coastguard
Mary Woon39
Thomas Woon19Navy
William Woon15
Jane Woon13
John Woon11
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Thanks everyone,
as you can see this is causing a great deal of hassle, never mind will keep on the trail.
I will hunt out the death of Rebecca and see what that gives.
Cheers,
Heather
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hello no hastle /it was a question
i still do not understand what i am making mistakes with
thats why i sign myself oops
i hope you were given the details
:) :) :) :) :) ???
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No sorry, I dont know either.
Cheers
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just a few maybe
richard pellow married eleanor hoon 1802 bodwin cornwall
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Stythians 19 Jun 1762 marriage Richard Woon Jane Marten
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Kenwyn 9 Oct 1769 Richard WOON Jane PETHIRICK grooms residence Redruth
sylvia
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Thanks Sylvia
they are all possibilities, will check them out.
Cheers,
Heather
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~stonemen/WIN-WOO.htm
woon names
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~stonemen/HAA-HAV.htm
hambly names
sylvia
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sorry if these are duplicates
Nichs Pell 24 1817
Richard Pell 1811 Cornwall Mylor
1841 census
Ann Simons 22
Jane Woon 69
Richard Woon 50 1801 St farmer Kevern
1841
Ann Jane 70
Jane Woon 22
John Woon 20
Mary Woon 50
Richard Woon 56 born 1795 Polruan Cornwall
1841 census in navy
richard pell 1811
1841
Joseph Pell 1808 Perranzabuloe Cornwall
Mary Pell 1816 " "
Sarah Pell 1776
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just a few pells in cornwall
James Pell 1791 Cornwall St Enoder Cornwall
Joseph Pell 1808 Cornwall Perranzabuloe
Mary Pell 1816 Cornwall "
Nichs Pell 1817 Cornwall Gorran
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Deaths
March 1866 Francis H Hambley.
1861 census Redruth
Francis H Hambly Head 70 Carpenter
Born Cambourne Cornwall
Rebecca M Hambly Wife 55 Clatham Kent
Katherine B Hambly Dau 27 Milliner Welling
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Richd Woon
Jane Trestrail
Marriage 1799
Truro St Mary
sylvia
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oops here again have i oops again
Calstock
6Sep 1724 born
Richard PELLOW
Henry/ Rachel
Stoke Climsland
24 Feb 1793
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Richard PELLOW
William /Jane
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birth jane hambley april 1821
richard and elizr talland cornwall
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1871 census Redruth Cornwall
Rebecca Hambley Head Wid 66 House Proprietor Clatham Kent
Ellen Rebecca Hambley Unm. 35 Stationer Born Redruth.
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Thanks Sylvia,
I have just had some information from a New Zealand researcher of Woon who said that Jane Hambley who married Richard Woon was previously married to a Trestrail and was a widow when she married Richard. I have no proof of this.
I have found a Jane Hembly married to a Robert Trestrail in London in 1790, but there is no proof that this is my Jane. It does open up more research for me although I was not aware of a London link.
Cheers,
Heather
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Aha Heather ;D
Now I see the 1799 marriage but this does not fit in with children being born from 1773 you mentioned initially ???
Richard WOON = Jane TRESTRAIL 1 Sep 1799 Truro St Mary
Cheers Kris
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Thanks Kris,
I believe the Richard Woon and Jane Pethirick m 1769 are the parents of the 1770's children and that their son Richard married Jane Trestrail (nee Hambley).
My NZ contact says Jane Trestrail was a widow but I have no proof. That info was in a family history book she has of her side of the family (it was an appendage in the back). I cant find Jane Hambleys birth although according to other researchers it is possibly around 1765 and in Truro Cornwall and she had a sister who married a Pell/s.
Cheers,
Heather
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Hi Heather,
Well that explains it then ;D I was confused as to how she could have been born Hambley, not married to a Woon until 1799 after first having married a Trestrail yet having Woon Children from 1773.
Now I can confirm
Richard WOON of Redruth = Jane PETHIRICK 9 Oct 1769 in Kenwyn
We can only see index entries for this 1799 marriage which does not list a marital status. I would suggest you contact the CRO (who will provide and further information from that entry in the hope it may list her as "widow" or "Mrs Trestrail" confirming she was previously married - though if this was the case her maiden name will not be listed, only that she was a widow or Mrs Trestrail.) or the OPC who does not have those years online but is willing to undertake lookups. Hopefully the entry will confirm she was a widow at time of marriage, and you are on the right track.
http://truro.homestead.com/StMaryParishRecords.html
Cheers Kris :D
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OK Heather,
Now there is a Jane HAMBLEY baptised 31 Aug 1766 St Clement parents Richard and Elizabeth
Richard HAMBLEY = Eliz TRISTREAL(TRESTRILL) 28 Apr 1751 St Clement.
mmm Now doesn't that name sound horribly similar to Jane Hambley's alleged first marriage
Besides Jane this couple do appear to have had a daughter Elizabeth 6 May 1764. Only see sons (John 20 Jan 1754, Richard 14 dec 1755, Thomas 29 Jul 1758- 22 Aug 1758, William 18 May 1760) besides these two girls and admittedly the daughter Elizabeth may have married John CLEMOW 19 Jun 1792 in Truro (IGI extracted record lists her as aged 29 at marriage) I don't see any births listed to this couple but again if he died no second marriage to a Pell :-\
I can't see anything to fit on the IGI or marriage index (said to be complete) and with the absence of a Hambley/Trestrail union or the Hambley/Pells or even Clemow/Pells Union anywhere in Cornwall perhaps these sisters did journey far to wed............Kris :D
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Thanks Kris,
Will just have to keep digging and hope it all comes together in the end.
Cheers, Heather
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Hello,
I have a Hambly marrying into my Pearce ancestry around 1792, Ann Hambly came from Poundstock, this is I believe not the Poundstock on the coast near Bude but a hamlet near Cardinham, which is near Bodmin.
You could try this line. Let me know if you need further information.
regards,
anne
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Thanks Anne,
cant find a connection yet, it looks as though Richard Woon may have married Jane Trestrail who was a widow, possible maiden name Hambley. I will be in touch again if I can find a connection.
Cheers,
Heather
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Heather, apologies for coming late to this.
I have a Woon ancestor Jonathan Woon baptised 22 july 1773, son of a Jane & William Woon.
Not your Richard but time specific and they could be brothers.
owever Note all the Woons I found were in Falmouth (not Redruth) for several generations.
My branch moved via Dartmouth and finished up in the East end of London.
You may want to try looking in Falmouth as well as Redruth.
Rgds Almag
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Thanks Almag,
I still haven't found the right Richard Woon in spite of extensive research in the area so will give Falmouth a try. I now have to eliminate every Richard, one at a time, and see what I am left with. He may have died in a mine accident and records are pretty scarce. I am still not sure of his parents either. Need to find another researcher for this branch of the Woon family.
Thanks,
Heather
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Perhaps I can help: Jane Hambly (b. 1776) was my 4x gr grandfather Richard Hambly's younger sister. He moved from Truro to London, where she joined him, marrying their first cousin Robert Trestrail, also of Truro, at St. Martin in the Fields, Westminster in 1790. They had only one child, Mary Anne Trestrail (1792-1871), so it would appear that Richard Trestrail died shortly after. In any case Mary Anne returned to Truro, later marrying a John Knight and producing twelve children, the ninth of whom, Jane (b. 1829) bears the middle name Woon. It is plausible that she was named after her mother's stepfather.
My 3x gr. grandmother Mary Hambly's older sister Rebecca Hambly, (b. London 1792 - both daughters of Richard) married a John Pells of Middlesex in 1817. They had two sons: Richard Hambly Pells (b.1825) and William Pells (b. 1830).
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Oh wow, thank you so much for that information. I have had so much trouble finding the correct Richard and Jane. There is much confusion as I thought my Richard was the one with brothers William and Thomas but alas not, so I am still searching. William Woon was a missionary in Tonga and New Zealand and his cousin Rebecca Hambley Pells was also in New Zealand. I have lots of information on William and some on Rebecca. I think my Richard is connected to him in some way but not his brother as family stories mention Hambley.
Do you have any further information on the Woon or Hambley families. I will gladly share what I have but I fear it will not be much as I had trouble finding the correct Richard and Jane given the information I had.
I am away at a wedding and a bit of a holiday at the moment and will be back home in early April. Thank you so much.
Heather
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Interesting to learn of the NZ connection. I think there must be two Rebecca Hambly Pells, as the one I find in NZ who married a Matthew Marriner produced ten children starting in 1838 with John Woon Marriner up to Annie Aubrey Marriner in 1858. My 4x gr aunt Rebecca was born in 1792, which would make this impossible. It is likely therefore that she had a daughter Rebecca born around 1818. You might find her mother Lydia's 1832 will interesting for the witness to it:
I Lydia Hambly of the parish of St Luke Chelsea, County of Middlesex, being of sound mind and memory do make this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following: first to my dear daughter Lydia Martin I bequeath my house No. 8 Peacock Street, Newington Butts, Surry. Also my household furniture and whatever property may be retained in my house No 40 Wellesley Street Chelsea; to my dear daughter Elizabeth Ann Mason I bequeath the sum of two hundred and fifty pounds principle money for her use independent of her husband, the said William Mason to have no control over the same; to my dear daughter Mary Cakebread fifty pounds; my wearing apparel to be divided between my four daughters and all my just debts and funeral expenses and proving this my will to be paid, the residue of stock in my name in the Bank of England to be equally divided between my five children Isaac, Lydia, Elizabeth Ann, Rebecca and Mary and I appoint my oldest daughter Lydia Martin whole and sole Executrix of this my last Will and Testament feeling assured she will most religiously and righteously fulfill the same. As witness my hand this sixth day of October, eighteen hundred and thirty-two.
Lydia Hambly
Witness Thomas Symons, 3 Wellesley Street Chelsea
Richard Woon, 1 Gifford Street, Hoxton
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Thanks for that. This is where I get confused. I thought this Richard, the witness, was my Richard but on further investigation he married someone else, an Elizabeth I think as I cant get into anything but my email from here and had several children born in London.
He died in 1838 around the right time for my Richard as Jane was alone with her children in the 1841 census although it doesnt state that she was a widow as it does in the 1851 census and I can find no other death that fits but he was in London when my gr gr grandfather John was born in 1837 in Cornwall. The witness Richard is the brother of William. I think my Richard is related to this family in some way but cant figure out how. My grandmothers family have quite a bit of info written down although not far enough back to prove which one is my Richard and my father always said the name Hambley was a family one and that there were Trestraills too.
Sorry I cant check my info until I go back home to Australia at the end of March but I know I have never been able to connect with the correct Richard and his family.
My Richard and Jane had 3 children, Mary born around 1835, John around 1837 and Nanny who some think was a twin of John but I think she was born around 1839 which would rule out the witness Richard. I do not have any of these birth records. Mary married Joseph Penrose and had lots of kids, John went to South Australia and married Mary Jane Magor also from Cornwall and had a large family and Nanny married John Sandow and had lots of kids.
The Rebecca Pells who went to NZ was a cousin of Richard the witness and his brothers William and Thomas. There is a passage in William's diary which mentions "his cousin Rebecca Pells".
Wish I could connect the dots.
Thanks once again.
Heather
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Hi Heather
Just joined and saw your old entry on the Woon Family.
I have a Nina Agnes Woon b. 1890 (m) Stephen Yerbury Towgood (pronounced as Toogood).
Nina is a descendant of Richard Woon & Janes Trestrail (Hambley).
Stephen is the son of Stephen Herbert Towgood my gg grandfather.
Would love to fill in a few Woon gaps on my tree.
If you reply I'll send my email address.
Craig Towgood
(NZ)
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Hi Craig,
Thanks for getting in touch. I will send you a personal message with the details.
Cheers, Heather