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Title: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: jbethell on Thursday 05 July 07 15:34 BST (UK)

Help with any members of the Bethell family that lived in the Featherstone and Wolverhampton area appreciated. Looking for connections especially for Jack [John T.]Bethell born about 1887 who married Eliza Evans and his ancestors and descendants. They had 9 children from which my family came from. Many questions need to be answered and any information greatly received. Kind Regards

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 05 July 07 15:50 BST (UK)

First of all welcome to Rootschat!
Here is his birth:
Oct/Nov/DEc 1887
John Thomas Bethell
Wolverhampton area ref 6b 485

The full Birth marriage and death indexes are free to search at
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx
choose the complete version and go through quarter by quarter within  each year.

So ... there is never any reason for a 'born about .... ' !!!

 I havnt got access to 1891 census, but someone else may - which would (hopefully) give you his paretns and some siblings

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 05 July 07 15:53 BST (UK)

And from the partial database (same link as above) I think I have his marriage:

Oct/Nov/DEc 1906
Wolverhampton area ref 6b 1134
also on the page is an Eliza Evans

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 05 July 07 15:58 BST (UK)

Also from the partial database:

Births of children with surname Bethell, mums maiden name Evans, and registered in Wolverhampton area:

oc/Nov/Dec 1911 Mary J
Jul/Aug/Sep 1913 John T
JAn/Feb MAr 1915 Harold

Pre 1911 mums maiden names are not shown in the indexes, so it will be harder to pinpoint which Bethell births in Wolverhampton are of this couple.

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: down-under on Thursday 05 July 07 16:10 BST (UK)

1901 Rg13/2675 folio 38 page 6 Wolverhampton Staffordshire

John Bethel age 40 corporation labouror street sweeper all born Wolverhampton
Jane wife 39
John son age 14
James son age 11
Jane dau age 7
Harold son age 3

1901 RG13/2682 folio 182 page 26 Wolverhampton Staffordshire

6 Tills Buildings
Rough Hills

Joseph Cross age 39 lab iron works Droitwich
Mary A Cross wife age 40 Wolverhampton

Thomas Bethel nephew born Wolverhampton age 15 pudd ? could mean Puddler   Tube trade

1901 RG12/2692 folio 12 page 16 darlaston Staffordshire


55 Moxley Road

Edward Bethel age 32 born Wolverhampton Staffordshire Builder Carter
Eliza wife age 26 rest born Darlaston Staff
Edward J son age 3
Gladys E dau age 11 months
James Hewitt nephew age 13 boot maker

1901 RG13/2719 folio 86 page 21 West bromwich Christchurch Staffordshire

30 St Michael Street

William Bethel age 44  Baker shopkeeper Wolverhampton

Harriet wife age 42 Wolverhampton
William son age 18 Baker Journeyman Wolverhampton
Lily M dau age 14 Wolverhampton

next page
Ernest son age 13  children born West Bromwich staffs
Dora dau age 13
Albert son age 11
Winifred dau age 6
Kate dau age 4 days
Jane THompson servant age 41

Pam

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: jbethell on Thursday 05 July 07 16:25 BST (UK)

Cheers to you Pam? I presume thats your name?!!
Will put all of your info together to see if I can get anything to knit together. The strange thing is my g.g grandfather William Walker, had a grandson named Edward Bethel living with him in 1871 [we don't yet know whose child he was], then I married into a family named Bethell, 130 years later!! Thanx

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: down-under on Thursday 05 July 07 16:40 BST (UK)

I did not say before welcome to Rootschat ;)

Yes my name is Pam from Down-Under

1881 Wolverhampton Staffordshire

Thomas Bethel age 23 Tube maker Gas  all born Wolverhampton
Elizth wife age 22
John son age 4
Beatrice dau age 2
Mary dau

1881

Wolverhampton Staffordshire

Thomas Bethel age 58 Cholton Staff
Hannah age 50 Ludlow
Charles T son age 17 lab in Iron works  children all born Wolverhampton
Emma dau age 15
George son age 10
Lizzie dau age 8
Matilda  dau age 4


1881 Wolverhampton


Fred Beards age 20
John Bethel lodger age 19 Wolverhampton
Emm? Persell age 19

Pam

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: pete edwards on Thursday 05 July 07 16:41 BST (UK)

1891 census Wolverhampton Stafford street

John   Bethell     h  m   29   night soil man    Staff    Wolver
Mary J    "           w m   29                                "           "
William    "          s        10                                "           "
Louise     "          d         6                                "           "
John        "          s         3                                 "           "
James      "         s       11/12 m                        "           "

RG 12  2232    folio 114 page 12,

Pete

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: jbethell on Friday 06 July 07 10:48 BST (UK)

Thanks to lizdb and pete for your info and again to pam. lookin up a.s.a.p.
much appreciated.

Title: Re: BETHELL of Wolvarhampton area
Post by: chrisorme on Tuesday 14 February 17 11:48 GMT (UK)

My wife is related to;

Thomas Bethel age 58 Cholton Staff
Hannah age 50 Ludlow
Charles T son age 17 lab in Iron works  children all born Wolverhampton
Emma dau age 15
George son age 10
Lizzie dau age 8
Matilda  dau age 4

Matilda moved to Australia in 1896 using her first name Amy.

Can anybody help with any details on this family. I know that Emma died in childbirth when she was 18 and that Thomas died between the 1881 and 1891 census, but I don't know when.

I am also 'down under'.

Chris