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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: janet two on Monday 02 July 07 19:41 BST (UK)
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Hi all.
my 2x great grandmother Martha Shepherd is giving me a bad time. I have spend a long time with not a lot of joy and I am hoping someone may help.
Martha was baptised in Normanby le wold Lincolnshire in 1826. She married William Smith from Lincoln and their first child Charles was born about 1850. As of yet I have no document of the marriage.
on the 1841 census Martha was living and working as a farm servant in Middle Rasen. I believe her parents were John Shepherd occupation a shepherd and his wife Anne. There are so many shepherds in that area about that time I am having great difficulty finding any more about the family.
can anyone help please regards Janet
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I can't find a collective noun for shepherds...probably should be a "labour" because mine are usually out lambing at census time.
Anyway, my sympathies. There was a Shepherd marriage in Normanby le Wold in your timeframe:
John Shepherd - Mary Lidget 28/5/1827 (Westwold deanery marriages)
John
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Hi John.
It looks as if I must say thank you yet again.and I will try to remember that the shepherd is out looking after the sheep!!!!!!
I have fond so many bits and bots with this lot I am not sure what is what. Martha Shepherd daughter of John Shepherd and Anne baptised in December 1826
There is also a burial John Shepherd in Claxby by Normanby June 1879 and. of Ann Shepherd in Tealby Dec 1883.
I have also found a marriage on the IGI of John and Anne Ash, Feb 1818,however I cannot find any of the census apart from 1851 of John Shepherd and Ann with George Ash as nephew.
As Martha was working as a farm servant and on her own in 1841 and married to William in 1851 I cannot be sure I am on the right track. John and Ann seem to disapear after that. however after writing all this to you I just wonder if this is my family. regards Janet
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Hello once again.
Now I am totally confused :'(
The good news is I am sure I have found Martha's marriage to William Smith although for a long time I had felt it was not quite right, however it is fitting more into place as it were.
Martha married William in Tealby 15th May 1849 and after finding William had got his age muddled in later census I am now certain I am on the right track, but it gives her father as Thomas and surname of Shepperd/Sheppard/ Shepherd. all on the same document.
There is a Thomas Shepperd in Tealby on 1841 and 1851 census and gives his birth in Market Rasen.
That still does not explain why Martha is on her own as a farm servant in Market Rasen aged 14 on 1841 or the fact I found a birth of Martha to John and Ann in Dec 1826.
Thomas also married an Ann in Tealby in 1825. The 1841 census gives a number of other children but it would make my Martha the eldest which may explain why she was working.
I am not sure just what I am asking you to do, just listen I suppose regards Janet
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Is there anyone else out there reserching this family. I would be so pleased to hear from you. many regards again Janet
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Hi Janet,
I'm doing Shepherds in Claxby by Normanby near Market Rasen, starting with William Shepherd (about 1776 at Claxby) and his wife Frances Shaw (about 1781 - Tealby) - married 1799. There is a daughter of that marriage, Martha, christened in 1805 at Claxby.
Your dates do not seem to coincide, so may be related, but not direct lines.
Michael
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Hi Michael
sorry to be so long in my reply just got back from my hols. I would be interested to know a little more as I am not 100% CERTAIN of dates etc. Except I know Martha married William Smith and lived in Aisthorpe. Their daughter married John cooke and were my great grandparents
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i have martha shepherd born 1805, claxby in my tree
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can you give me a little more information to go on.
My Martha certainly married William Smith in Caister. regards Janet
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my martha shepherd married henry coulson in 1825, owmnby ner market rasen
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this is so close. I know their were a lot of shepherds in market rasen about that time. my Martha definatly married William Smith. I think she was the daughter of John shepherd and Ann Ash. Martha was born in Normanby le Wold close to M arket Rasen
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Hi
Hate to butt into a family party, but I think Lynnuk's Martha was born in 1794 in Rothwell. She was living in Nettleton Road, Caistor in 1851 with Richard Coulson and also her brother Stephen who was born in Ashby cum Fenby in 1788, and she died in 1868 aged 73. Stephen was my husband's gt gt gt Grandfather and emigrated to the USA in 1851 (aged 62).
Can't help Janet though.
Pauline
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hi pauline
now i am confused ???...my g/g/grandmother mary coulson, born 1827 in owmsby was the daughter(i assumed) of henry coulson and martha shepherd.You mentioned martha was with a richard coulson in 1851, was this a son?.
The reason im sure my mary was the daughter of henry and martha is on one of the census..sorry cant remember which one at the minute, there was a lodger william coulson born 1842, marys brother i assumed.He was lodging with mary and her husband charles dobson born 1825
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Hi to both
I am so pleased that one of our Martha's have been discovered. I know my Martha did marry William Smith. MAY 1849 There are times when the spelling of her surname has changed to Sheppard.
She is listed in 1841 living in Market Rasen as a farm servant aged 14
I now believe she was born about 1826 in Normanby le Wold to Thomas Shepherd and Anne Coulbeck but it is not 100% CERTAIN.
She certainly lived in Aisthorpe near Lincoln with William and had at least 3 children her daughter Elisabeth became my g grandmother
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Hi all
I'll have tchecked the census and it is defintely Richard Coulson. Perhaps it's just a coincidence and not your Martha after all,
Pauline