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Title: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: redkop on Sunday 01 July 07 20:19 BST (UK)


Hi,

where would I find records on people who have been in the Orange Lodge?

Also, I have a photograph with someone wearing an orange collar, with lots of medals on. I wondered if there was somewhere I could find out what they all meant.

Thanks,

Red   :)
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Johnbeddows on Sunday 01 July 07 23:33 BST (UK)
Try the Orange Lodge have a look on google find your local lodge.
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Monday 02 July 07 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi Redkop , these sites might help you.



http://www.grandorange.org.uk/history/Orange_Expansion.html Link no longer works?



Migky ;)

ps  The lodge still march in liverpool , as i found out last year when there
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: manchester jack on Monday 29 September 08 21:36 BST (UK)
If you have a copy of the photograph, I will have a look at it and see if I can help you with any details
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 30 September 08 07:00 BST (UK)
 GOOD MORNING RED....google Victoria Memorial Hall  ..thats the Orange Lodge branch here in Garston...someone on there might be able to help..if you know the Order number ie L.O.L. Branch No 12....that will certainly help...when you say "collar" , do you mean an orange sash??...regards ...Allan
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Pegasuss on Tuesday 30 September 08 08:11 BST (UK)
Red.

As Allan said, someone at the VMH should be able to Help (there are some Older Members Who may even Recognise the Person in the Photo!). ;)
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: redkop on Tuesday 30 September 08 11:58 BST (UK)

Good Morning (just  ;D ) Everyone,

I thought this thread had gone cold  :o
I can't put the photo on.
I will give VMH a ring. Thanks for the advice. My Nan was in LOL 68 and Grandad LOL 765 or 3.
Thanks again,

Red   ;D
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Pegasuss on Wednesday 01 October 08 06:23 BST (UK)
Midky.

The GOLE link does not work?

Try this one:

http://www.gole.org.uk/indexa.htm
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Wednesday 01 October 08 09:56 BST (UK)
Midky.

The GOLE link does not work?

Try this one:

http://www.gole.org.uk/indexa.htm

Pigasuss, they were working in 2007 at the time i posted them as i tried before posting
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Pegasuss on Wednesday 01 October 08 11:45 BST (UK)
Migky.

The second link You posted was the one I meant that dos'nt work!
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Wednesday 01 October 08 12:38 BST (UK)
Have now edited link above.
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: redkop on Sunday 05 October 08 15:51 BST (UK)


Thanks for all your help peeps.

Here is my Nan and Grandad Miller. If anyone can date this too, I would be very grateful.

Red   :D
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Pegasuss on Sunday 05 October 08 17:44 BST (UK)
Red.

I would say (looking at their Clothes & Hair Styles) C1946-55?

P.S.

Your Grandfather is wearing J.M. on His Collar (near the bottom), This signifies that He was a 'Juvenile Master' (Master in charge of a Childrens Lodge).

Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: jan44 on Sunday 05 October 08 18:32 BST (UK)
 ;D

Records are kept by the secretary of the district of that particular lodge, I don't know where they keep all past records, but they would be like a register and people would only be listed as attending monthly meetings.

There are some records for the Orange Lodge at Liverpool Records Office.

I think your best bet would be to contact Liverpool Provincial Club at Everton Road.  But I don't think you will have any luck, the information is confidential.  The photo is wonderful, that would go down well at "The Provvy"  As you have the district numbers on the colaretts, that might be a great asset to have and maybe someone will know what district they were from. 

I could do some asking for you, nearly all my family were in the lodge.

The best of luck

Jan
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: jan44 on Sunday 05 October 08 18:48 BST (UK)
 :(

I found this on Liverpool Records Office Website.

RefNo 296 MLI/10/5 
Title Copy annual returns to the Grand Lodge of England 
Date Dec 1931-Oct 1967 
Description Includes date of membership, name, address and profession of member and fees paid 
Extent 1 volume 
AccessConditions Closed until 1/1/2043 under the Data Protection Act 

Jan
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Pegasuss on Sunday 05 October 08 20:41 BST (UK)
Jan.

Each Lodge is responsible for the keeping of it's own records!

Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: jan44 on Sunday 05 October 08 20:59 BST (UK)
 ;D

Hi Pegasuss,

Yes, sorry.  I forgot I suppose I should have worded my post differently.  I was only in it a short while and I didn't know what they did with all the information, lists of members, dues etc.

I remember a similar topic on another site and I don't know if the person asking the question ever found anything out.

Jan
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: chaz763 on Saturday 14 May 11 23:10 BST (UK)

Good Morning (just  ;D ) Everyone,

I thought this thread had gone cold  :o
I can't put the photo on.
I will give VMH a ring. Thanks for the advice. My Nan was in LOL 68 and Grandad LOL 765 or 3.
Thanks again,

Red   ;D

I am the secretary of LOL763 Defenders of Derry in Liverpool. I may be able to help as I have extensive records of our LOdge
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: SusieKelly on Sunday 15 May 11 20:52 BST (UK)
Hello Chaz763
Are you allowed to give out information or are your records covered by data protection and what years if any are you allowed to divulge information on. I had family members in the lodge in Liverpool born in 1880's and members until late in life and wonder what you can tell me about them.
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: chaz763 on Sunday 15 May 11 21:27 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm quite happy to help anyone with Gen assistance from my Lodge going back to 1904 (formed) and the members mandate me to help. The OP on this thread seems to have a link to 763 on their family so I can be of particular assistance to them.

visit www.liverpool-lol.co.uk and send a secure message via the site which takes many Gen enquiries.

Put as much info as you can on and we'll do our best. As regards the DPA our records are similar to Church records and being a fraternal organisation we have no issues.

The LOL in Liverpool is in a process of depositing minute books to Liverpool Library at present and if all Lodges deposited their books there would be thousands of minute books - these will be subject to the DPA but accessible with consent from the Order - Library rules  :)

I will say though that Gen enquiries from 1900 ish are rearely successful unless the person was an officer where detailed records exist - sole members of the LOL who went no further are hard to trace
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Pegasuss on Monday 16 May 11 16:36 BST (UK)
Chaz.

Would You know If the Pride of Aintree records are/have been Deposited at Liverpool Library?

My Grandfather & his Siblings were Officers & longtime members of the Male & Female Lodges.
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: chaz763 on Monday 16 May 11 18:52 BST (UK)
Send me a secure message via www.liverpool-lol.co.uk on the 'contact us' page and I'll forward the request on.

The Lodges still exist - the band went about 5 years ago though.

I'd confidently say that the Lodge still has (what hasn't been lost  :-[) all its own records as the Livrpool library objective was only muted a few months ago and things move rather slooooooowly in the LOL  :)

The requests via the LPGL website are recognised by Lodges and Districts more so that's the best route.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: SusieKelly on Monday 16 May 11 21:12 BST (UK)
Hello Chaz763
Thanks so much for your informative reply i will do as you have advised and Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: Orange Lodge...Liverpool
Post by: Pegasuss on Monday 16 May 11 21:45 BST (UK)
Thank You Chaz.

I have just sent You a message.