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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Teen047 on Saturday 30 June 07 01:36 BST (UK)
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On a death notification I have it states the person died at OMOA House, Cleland. Can anyone tell me what this stands for.
Thanks
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Does this help?
I still don't know what the abbreviation stands for.
http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit_page.jsp?u_id=10162439
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Hi All,
It is not an abbreviation.
Omoa, a village, in the parish of Bertram-Shotts, Middle ward of the county of Lanark, 5 miles (S. W.) from the village of Bertram-Shotts ; containing 206 inhabitants. This place is situated in the south-western part of the parish, and owes its origin to the erection of considerable iron-works, in 1787, on the estate of Colonel Dalrymple; the ironstone in the neighbourhood is very abundant, and the ore is wrought to a great extent. The village lies on the road from Airdrie to Cambusnethan.
There is a place called Omoa in Honduras, may have been named after that.
Tom
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I live in Cleland in Lanarkshire and Omoa House was originally Omoa Poorhouse. The Omoa House still stands today (or much of it), and is Cleland Hospital. It is right opposite Cleland station, which in the early 1900's was known as Omoa station but was renamed when the original Cleland station closed with the demise of the Iron Works. Omoa did indeed get its name from Omoa in Honduras where Colonel Dalrymple distinguished himself in battle before returning to set up the iron works.
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Hey Speedy, where did you get your name?
This post has been here for almost two weeks now!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Seriously, that's interesting.
I know this is Teen047's post but I was interested so thanks Tom and Speedy.
Dave
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Hey Dave, I was an Ent in a previous life ;D (Hope you're a Lord of the Rings fan or that will make no sense at all!)
Lots of great history of people and places in this part of Lanarkshire.
Jim
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Hi Speedy
This will test you! Do you know of any detailed sources of info on Cleland Pottery which was run by a member of the Kennedy family of Barrowfield Pottery, Glasgow? I've seen all the usual sketchy references in ceramics books but there's little of real substance.
I
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Hi Imber,
Have you tried contacting:
http://www.scottishpotterysociety.co.uk
Cleland Pottery is listed to have been around from c1895 - c1911. They might not know much more but it's always worth a shot.
Have you tried the Archives for North/South Lanarkshire? I would imagine it would be mentioned in the Trade Directories?
What about trying local libraries?
Good Luck anyway!!
Anne
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Imber,
You definitely tested me there.To be honest, I do not believe there are any detailed records of Cleland Pottery. What I can tell, from asking locals, is that the pottery was at the bottom end of Chapel Street in Cleland.
It operated until the early 1900’s. A local believes that he once saw photo’s of this featuring beehive kilns like the ones you see in Stoke etc. There was a narrow gauge line linking the Pottery, with the Cockyard [newer houses at the bottom of Chapel Street]. This narrow gauge crossed the burn via a viaduct. This viaduct was blown up in the mid sixties. He is certain of that as he was at St Mary’s Primary School the day it was blown and all the windows had to be opened to avoid them shattering. Him and a friend did not get home from school until 8.00pm that night because he went to see the debris and in his own words "we got our arse’s kicked for our trouble"
The older houses on Chapel Street were built late 20’s early 30’s but by that time the Pottery would have closed.
There is a reference to Cleland making chimney pots etc as early as 1830/40 possibly an offshoot of pottery, which then gave way to brickworks. There were three types of mining; fireclay, iron ore and of course coal in the Cleland area.
Sorry, this is not what you are looking for, but I do not think you will find any detail of the pottery works. I will keep asking to see what I can find.
Jim
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Many thanks indeed for both replies. Local information like that is really useful indeed and I'd welcome any more you might come across.
I
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The village that is now classed as all being Cleland was originally two and even had two railway stations the area from the cross was Omoa and Omoa railway station sat at the bottom of Station Road the area from the cross up was Cleland as far as the War memorial it then split and became Bellside to the Newmains side and Parkside to the Biggar Road side. Cleland station was at its present location.
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Hi All,
I found a reference to the pottery in the 1905-6 Post Office Directory, but all it says is "Cleland Pottery Co., makers of stone jars and bottles, Cleland". It only tells us what it produced, no owners names etc.
Tom
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Hi Imber et all,
I have found Ads in the Scotsman and notices in Edinburgh Gazette, for dates in 1899, for the Cleland Pottery going into liquidation, and to auction of pottery and buildings. Due to copyright laws, I am not allowed to post them here, but if you PM me, and pass me your email address, I can send you the links, for the Scotsman links you would need to be registered with the NLS.
Tom
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Only just noticed your post. I have been out of the loop for some time but back now.
From what I remember OMOA became a hospital for elderly patients and it was quite a common fear for older people that they would be sent there, obviously the end of the road in their opinion. Probably because of the old connection with a Work House which was considered a major shame. Buses were laid on from the surrounding towns i.e. Motherwell, Wishaw etc for visitors, a Wednesday was a favourite day
Although if everyone digs deep enough they will probably find some ancestor who finished up in there, I know I did. Keep digging
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maxcam or any others on the thread
I'm helping a family in USA with their research. Found an out of district death for their elderly relative. The death took place in 'County Hospital, Cleland'. Hadn't come across it before, but on reading this thread, would it be safe to deduce 'County Hospital' was one and the same place as 'Cleland Hospital' (formerly Omoa workhouse)?
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Before the railway 1859 map with Omoa Iron Works
http://maps.nls.uk/view/74955955
and Omoa Cottage
http://maps.nls.uk/view/74951037
1898 Omoa Station, Omoa Square & Cleland Pottery [no Poorhouse]
http://maps.nls.uk/view/82892601
1912 as above now with Poorhouse just south of station
http://maps.nls.uk/view/82892604
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Hi Scotsmum, Yes, this would have been Cleland Hospital, previously the Combination Poorhouse. As far as I know it's still there, although it's been a couple of years since I was over that way.
It would have been called the "County" hospital as opposed to, for example, the one in Motherwell which was known as the Burgh Hospital. Anyplace that wasn't in a burgh (the burghs of Lanarkshire being Hamilton, Motherwell & Wishaw, Lanark, Airdrie & Coatbridge) was considered to be in the County, for example, Cleland, Bellshill, Shotts, Carluke, Larkhall (I think) and other small villages.
There was a "County Hospital" on the outskirts of Motherwell but that was a Fever Hospital that served the whole county of Lanark.
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Great, thanks. Was aware of the others, but Cleland thus far had escaped my radar. Glad I took the chance on the out of district (albeit in County) death record. I've sent the folks I'm helping a link to pictures of the hospital, so they can see where their relative died.
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further to last comment I remember my mother telling me the line that ran through Omoa station was known locally as the Puffing Billy line
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Does anybody still remember the tartan building that stood next to Biaggis chip shop on the main street on the other side of the close next to it which lead to the entrance to the public park there was a row of 'single ends' the one nearest to the Tartan Building was Leezie Loves shop. end of the row was Pattersons building where I was born in 1952. when I was a kid the flats were occupied by Bob Johnson and his wife and son Brownlee, dougie and Grace Thompson, My Grandpa John Peden who we lived with, My mothers Uncle Jimmy Kerr (always called Buckle) and her Aunt Lizzie Jean Ferguson and her daughter Elizabeth their hous was originally occupied by Scotts and the last one upstairs was occupied by Curry's, later My uncle Alex and aunt Nancy Kerr had this one and My aunt Betty Felvus and My uncle Joe had got one that Jean Ferguson had later still my cousin betty Cooper and her husband Jim took the one that Alex and Nancy had
At the cross opposite what was then Duddy's pub was the auld men's rest hut with Tam Browns shop next to it and Morrisons drapers next to that across from the pub on the other corner was Tamborini's chip shop then a couple of doors down John Keeveneys paper shop next to what became Sam Reids Bakery (best pies and bridies in Scotland) many more memories most of them happy ones.
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The Tartan Building (on the left), Main Street, Cleland. Date 1905.
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Omoa is not an abbreviation it is part of the village of Cleland in Lanarkshire
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I remember as a very wee boy watching as they demolished the Tartan Building one of the families who lived there I believe were called McCormack and they moved to Kenoway in Fife.
I well remember Joe Biaggis chip shop I used to be taken into the back shop by His Daughter Lena McNab to wait for my chips to be cooked and Maggie cooking chips in a big pan no commercial chip fryers then, and they sold Home made ice cream as well. Lena's son Alex is a very good friend of mine to this day.