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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Argyllshire => Topic started by: debi-robo on Wednesday 27 June 07 02:05 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone
I am researching my Campbell ancestor's from Tyree and would love to hear from anyone else researching these names in this area; also of interest is the surnames Sinclair, McPhaiden/ McFadgen and McLean from Tyree, Argyll.
Debbie
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debbie
I have a possible link - teneous at mo. What info got ?
Ann
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Hi Debbie,
I am researching the following:
Walter SINCLAIR b 1779, Tiree m Marion McArthur.
Farquhar SINCLAIR b `1814 Tiree m Mary ANDERSON.
Angus SINCLAIR b 1809 IN Tiree.
Hoping that one of the names may occur in your tree.
Annette
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Hi Debbie I have a Catherine Sinclair who married Lachlan Macdonald in Tiree
Kathy
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I have John HughCAMPBELL,Flora MCKINNON,on Coll.
Mackiwi :)
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Sorry for the rather long delay in replying, got sidetracked by another line for a while :-)
Archibald Campbell married Catherine Sinclair on 9 Feb 1831 at Gortandonell,
children :
Alexander b. 6 Jan 1832
Donald b. 4 May 1833
Catherine b. 22 Aug 1834
Margaret b. 22 Jun 1836
Mary b. 22 Jul 1838
Donald b. 1841
Catherine b. 1843
Malcolm b. 1845
Ann b. 1847
Marion b. 1849
Archibald Campbell was baptized 30 Oct 1808, his parents were Alexander Campbell; soldier, and Catherine Campbell; maiden name McLean.
Carherine Sinclair was born 1808, her parents were Malcolm Sinclair and Mary Sinclair, maiden name Sinclair.
Malcolm Sinclair and Mary Sinclair married 3 JUL 1799, children were :
Ann b. 1800
Donald b. 1802
John b. 1804
Grace b. 1806
Catherine b. 1808
Margaret b. 1812
Does anyone recognize any of these names ?
Debbie
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Hi
I have Archibald Campbell and Catherine Sinclair in my family.Their daughter Marion is my great grand mother.
Archibald was born/baptised April 29, 1812 and died January 22, 1894 in Barrapol. According to his death certificate his mother's maiden name was also campbell.
I can give you more info if you wish.
Cat :)
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I have a NIEL CAMPBELL shoemaker married to ANNE SINCLAIR their son ARCHIBALD who died Jan 1855 aged about 25 was I believe the father of NEIL CAMPBELL (1854-1912)to a FLORA MACDONALD. They were all from Tiree.
Does this ring any bells with anybody?
Regards Iain
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Greetings Debbie All my mother's (Mary Maclean b. 1906) family came from Tiree stretching back thorugh the centuries. I recall a great great aunt marrying a Sinclair who shifted to Glasgow but I do not know more than that. My great grandmother Mary Campbell B. 1825 married my great grandfather Archibald Maclean, b. 1819 Kenovay. Her father was Neil Campbell m. to Margaret Maclean.
Cheers
Gordon
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Hi Debbie,
I am doing some research for a friend, Robert Davidson, here in New Zealand. Seems that Archibald Campbell is his gg grandfather.
Malcolm (1845), son of Archibald and Catherine married Margaret McDonald (b abt 1848, Tyree) on 2 Jul 1869 in Strrathaven, Lanarkshire. Margaret was the dau of John McDonald, farmer, and Catherine Unknown - can't decipher her maiden name on the index image. Malcolm and Margaret had children Catherine (1870), Flora (7 Oct 1871), Mary (1873) - all born in Strathaven- Sarah (1878) - b. Sandford - and Archibald (1880) - b. Tyree.
Flora Campbell apparently went to work for a family in New York and travelled with them to Bermuda where she met her husband Walter James Lake, a soldier in the 3rd and 4th Warwickshire Regiment. We have not yet tracked down her marriage either in Bermuda, England or Ireland. Walter and Flora had children Mary Alexander (1903), Margaret Gertrude (1904), Edward Gavin (1907) - all born in Dublin, Ireland, Donald Adam (1910), Katerine Alison (1910, d. 1915), William G (1911) - all born in Walthamstow, Essex - and Walter (1916) - born in Bedford, Bedfordshire. THe family emigrated to New Zealand in 1920, departing from Southampton on 2 Dec 1920. Walter James Lake died 1938 and Flora Lake died 1945, both in Dunedin, NZ.
Mary Alexander Lake (1903) married Robert Davidson (1907, Dunedin, NZ), the father of my friend Robert Davidson, on 4 Feb 1932 in Dunedin, NZ. The Davidson family had come from Kincardine O'Neill and Banchory Ternan, Kincardineshire, Scotland and arrived in New Zealand on 26 Oct 1870.
Cheers,
Don Carter
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Malcolm Campbell (1845-1896) was my GG Gf through Sarah Campbell. He married Margaret McDonald (1844-1888) the daughter of John McDonald and Catherine McKinnon. They also had a daughter Colina (1882).
They eventually settled in Glasgow. Sarah married James Aitken. She died in Partick Glasgow in 1935.
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Hi,
I am also researching the Sinclair family from Tyree.
I can identify the Ann Sinclair, b. 1800, daughter of Malcolm and Mary Sinclair.
She went on to marry Duncan McIntyre, had a large family and was in the group that emigrated in 1849 to Ontario, Canada. She eventually settled in McIntyre Corners in Osprey Township, Grey County, Ontario.
I'd be interested in any information on her family and siblings.
Thanks,
Roxanna
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Hi Don
Flora Campbell is my grandmother. She married Walter James Lake Dec 1913 in London.
Walter (1916) is my father, he died 29 August 1994.
Regards
Vivien
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Hi Don
Malcolm and Margaret Campbell had another child, a daughter, Colina, born on August 2 1882 at Greenhill, Tyree. Colina was my grandmother. She too, perhaps with Flora, travelled to the West Indies and her occupation on her marriage certificate is listed as 'Housemaid'. She was married on December 18, 1901 in Hamilton, Bermuda, to Archibald Duncan MacKillop (born in 1875). The witnesses to the marriage were Walter Lake and Flora M. Campbell. Colina lived for a long time in Bedford. She died in 1946, a year after her sister.
Archibald and Colina had four (and possibly a 5th) children Douglas (1902), Hector and Archibald twins(1904) born in Jamaica and Flora (1907). Hector MacDonald Mackillop, my father, emigrated to New Zealand in 1922.
I am interested in how Flora, a young woman from Tyree, found work in New York.
Cheers
Anne Brown
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Hi Ann,
I am one of Flora's grand daughters. The stories we heard is that she left home and went to work with a family and emigrated with them to America. I think that I found her on the 1891 census as a housemaid with the family of George Moson. A colina Campbell was in the same household but her age is listed as 26. Anyway as the story goes, Flora rose from the ranks of housemaid to cook and travelled with the family from New York to Bermuda.
Regards
Vivien Dell
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Hi Vivien
Thank you for the extra information. It does seem strange that Colina is listed as 26yrs old when she should have been 9 years old. George Moson and family, I presume were in Scotland. Did all of Flora and Walter's children remain in New Zealand?
Regards
Anne
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Hi Anne
Looking at the census return. Flora was living and working in a hotel in sauchiehall St. The Moson's were most likely guests. Colina was with her family.
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Hi Anne,
yes all of Walter and Flora's children stayed in New Zealand. However two of their grandchildren and some of their great grandchildren now live in England.
You said that your father emigrated to New Zealand. Do you live in New Zealand now?
His sister Flora came to New Zealand too about 1960. She died in palmerston North in 1975.
I have in my information another son for Colina and Archie. His name is Hamish. Do you know anything about him?
Yes the Mosons at the timeof the census were in Scotland. However they are not in the 1901 Scottish census. Not sure if I checked for them in England.
Regards
Vivien
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Hi Vivien
Yes, I live in Hawke's Bay, two hours drive from Palmerston North where I grew up. Flora, or Fiona as she called herself, arrived in PN unexpectedly. It would have been later than 1960, more like 1965. I remember my father wasn't exactly pleased to see her. Ironically their graves in the servicemen's cemetery now face one another. Stupidly, I didn't ask her about the family. Too young to be interested.
My mother always said there was a Hamish but I haven't tracked down his birth. The only information I found related his winning some athletic event. My cousin, Mary, Douglas's daughter, who lives in Essex, had an idea that Hamish ran a pub in London at some stage. Any other info you have about him would be welcome. I still haven't found the date of Archie's death.
Regards
Anne
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I have just started researching my wifes side of the family which is from Belfast
They are Campbells but my dates are more advanced than yours
I have
David Campbell b 1912 in Belfast died 1974
David was the son of Alexander Campbell and Sarah Campbell b 1887-1888 married 1911 ( Sarah maiden name was Campbell, her father was Thomas Campbell b abt 1865)
I believe Alexander Campbell married again to Catherine Mcclean
Alex Campbell s father was also called Alexander b abt 1865 in Scotland and he was a soldier not sure who but i'm told one of the Alexander Campbells died in the battle of the Somme
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Looking at the census return. Flora was living and working in a hotel in sauchiehall St. The Moson's were most likely guests. Colina was with her family.
Have a look at my posting for Agnes MacEarchan Argyll
marcie
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Hi Don
Malcolm and Margaret Campbell had another child, a daughter, Colina, born on August 2 1882 at Greenhill, Tyree. Colina was my grandmother. She too, perhaps with Flora, travelled to the West Indies and her occupation on her marriage certificate is listed as 'Housemaid'. She was married on December 18, 1901 in Hamilton, Bermuda, to Archibald Duncan MacKillop (born in 1875). The witnesses to the marriage were Walter Lake and Flora M. Campbell. Colina lived for a long time in Bedford. She died in 1946, a year after her sister.
Archibald and Colina had four (and possibly a 5th) children Douglas (1902), Hector and Archibald twins(1904) born in Jamaica and Flora (1907). Hector MacDonald Mackillop, my father, emigrated to New Zealand in 1922.
I am interested in how Flora, a young woman from Tyree, found work in New York.
Cheers
Anne Brown
Hi Anne
I notice that you have a Hector MacDonald MacKillop being your father, i'm got him as being married twice in New Zealand (1) Enid Grace Gordon -1939 (2) Phyllis Margaret Harman -1948, the latter is what i'm tracing, mainly Phyllis.
She may of re-married to a Absolom after Hector's death in 1969. Even though Fiona and Hector are in the Palmerston North -Kelvin Grove Cemetery and both have headstones.
http://www.pncc.govt.nz/ServicesAndFacilities/OnlineServices/CemeteryAndCremationDetail.aspx?id=4863
http://www.pncc.govt.nz/ServicesAndFacilities/OnlineServices/CemeteryAndCremationDetail.aspx?id=4958
Could this as mentioned above be your father.
Regards
Lorraine.
New Zealand
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Hi Lorraine
Hi Lorraine
I'm sorry I seem to have overlooked this message for some time. All the information you have is correct and, yes, my mother was Phyl Harman. She died in 1993 aged 76. She was married again to Bob Absolom in 1977. Fiona may have confused you. She was Dad's sister (originally called Elizabeth) and she came out to NZ in the late 1960s. My father wanted little to do with her so it's ironic that their headstones now face one another in Kelvin Grove. If you are researching my mother, we must be related somehow. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards Anne
Hawke's Bay
New Zealand
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I am researching my Campbell ancestor's from Tyree and would love to hear from anyone else researching these names in this area; also of interest is the surnames Sinclair, McPhaiden/ McFadgen and McLean from Tyree, Argyll.
Debbie
Hi Debbie !
Don't know if you're still following your posting..., as such, I won't go into too much detail about "McPhaiden/ McFadgen." Especially when reading the follow-up messages with no mention of them !
Anyway, it's worth looking at http://keithdash.net Also, don't forget the Tiree 1743 and 1747 Rent Rolls..., and the 1776 and 1779 census reports. ;)
Kind Regards..., Iain.
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One of my ancestors was Isabella Campbell from Tyree who married another ancestor Alexander McKinnon from Mull around 1800. ;D
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Hello
I'm tracing the Campbell from Tyree
Duncan Campbell married Ann McPherson in Tyree 1850 (gg grandfather)
son of Angus Campbell & Ann McDonald
cheers Jan
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I have Campbell ancestors from Balephuil and Balemartin in Tiree. My GGG Grandfather John Campbell died at sea, along with 8 other men and boys as a result of a terrible storm on July 7, 1856.
John Campbell was born in Balemartine, Tiree in 1794.
His parents were Dougald Campbell (born B4 1768) and Mary MacLean (born 1768)
He married Mary MacMillan (born 1807). They were married 21 Feb 1827 in Balemartine.
Mary died in Glasgow 1872.
Mary's parents were Malcolm MacMillan and Christy Campbell (1786-1851)
Tiree is hosting a Homecoming celebration in May 2016. A 160th anniversary commemoration of Tiree's Great Fishing Disaster of 1856 will be one of the Homecoming events.
Please see the Facebook page Tiree 2016 - Balephuil Commemoration for more information
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Hello, I'm not sure if your still following but, I have traced my ancestors back to Alex'r Campbell and Cathering McLean (no dates) but they had a son Malcolm Campbell somewhere in 1802, who married one Mary Mclean (no dates) but they had 6 children together all born in tiree
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Alexander m.Catharene McLean on 3.2.1808.
Son Archibald was b.30.10.1808.
Archibald m.Catharine Sinclair on 9.2.1831.
Alexander Campbell was killed at Waterloo on 18.6.1815.
Catharene McLean or Campbell d.22.10.1863 in Tyree.
Malcolm Campbell and Mary MacLean had 11 children between 1824 and @1847.
jcmac.
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I just checked that with my tree and the dates seem to match up with what I have got. Do you have any other information you can give me? And where did you get that information from? I have been stuck for over a month lol
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Malcolm and Archibald both had large families and the cencus returns from 1841 will give you details.
Births & Marriages pre-1855 are in the OPR's and B,M&D's from 1855 are in the Statutory Records.
Births for both families from @ 1840 are not recorded in the OPR.
Alexander was in the Argyle Militia and then in the 79th.Regiment of Foot (Cameron Highlanders).
Militia details were held in the Argyll & Bute Archives, Lochgilphead.
79th. details are held in the National Archives, Kew.
jcmac.
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Do you know about the searchable (Excel) Tiree Genealogy website keithdash.net? It's an excellent source because of being able to find dates and names by using the Edit Find function.
I am researching the family of Alexander Campbell and Catherine MacLean because their son weather-wise son Malcolm warned his son Archibald not to go out fishing on July 7, 1856. Because Archibald listened, he and the fishermen who would have gone out in his boat were not involved in Tiree's Great Fishing Tragedy of 1856. For more information, go the Facebook Group
Tiree 2016- Balephuil Commemoration and/or email me at balephuilcommemoration@gmail.com
I am hoping that Alexander Campbell and my GGGG Grandfather Dougald Campbell (born before 1768) might be related. Dougald's son John Campbell was one of the fishermen who did not survive the storm. The story is told by Ian Smith on pg. 144 of the 2014 book The Secret Island - Towards a History of Tiree. ISBN 978-1-907443-62-6
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Do you know about Tiree's Homecoming May 23 - 27, 2016?
If not, see:
www.tireehomecoming.com
Facebook event A' Bhuain
Best regards, Sharon Clayton
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Folks, this might be of interest, Prof' Donald Meek's, "Passages From Tiree",
http://meekwrite.blogspot.co.uk/
Skoosh.