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Elizabeth Thompson died in 1896 and is buried at Bovevagh CI, Burnfoot (limavady). Can anyone clarify if her maiden name was Marshall from Limavady? Or does anyone know of the family history of the Thompsons in the late 1800s in the area?
All help welcomed
Betty McNerlin
Limavady
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hello betty, this is the only one i could find.
ELIZABETH MARSHALL TO ALEXANDER THOMPSON 26-4-1894 AT CHRISTCHURCH C.OF.I. PARISH DRUMACHOSE, NEWTOWN LIMAVADY, CO. DERRY.
REGARDS MARY.
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Mary
this Elizabeth would not be the same one burried in Bovevagh (I think) but I will check the churchyard in Limavady. She was Presbyterian Drumachose whereas this record is CofI Drumachose (just down the street) - she could have been buried with her husband. There is no Alexander Thompson in my family records.
Regards
Betty
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Dear Mary
did your search for Elizabeth Marshall married to Alexander Thompson give names of parents on either side? The Elizabeth I need to find has a father called John Marshall from Drumachose St Limavady. I would be very interested then in where Alexander comes from. It may just be coincidence that they moved to Bovevagh near Dungiven to work as the only info I have is that Elizabeth's husband was a bricklayer - but this Elizabeth's family 'seat' was Scriggan near Dungiven where my dad was born. I want to go to Belfast on Tue next week and this would let me purchase birth certs if at all possible.
Best regards
Betty McNerlin (nee Elizabeth Thompson)
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betty, did another search for birth for elizabeth with a father john turned up a few. do you know her dob or her mothers name (maiden). also found lots of alexander thompson births to many to know which one is him.
regards mary.
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Dear Mary
had to email Ohio for some info. Elizabeth's mother's maiden name was Lizabeth Harper.
I thought I had found Alexander Thompson from Pound St Limavady (now Protestant st) but his dob seems to be 08-08-1880 which would only have made him 14 when he married Elizabeth so can't surely be him! It's just that this other Alexander Thompson comes from a family where his dad James was also a bricklayer - all the letters to cousin Hugh in Ohio seem to say that Elizabeth's husband was a bricklayer.
I saw some wilted flowers on the grave and it was father's day a couple of weeks ago. Makes me wonder if there is a child still living about 80 yrs old approx.
Regards
Betty
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According to IGI John Marshall & Elizabeth Harper had:
1. Joseph born 8 Dec.1865 Ballykelly
2. Elizabeth Jane 17 Mar.1871 Co.Derry
3. Margaret 16 Oct.1873 Co.Derry
4. Thomas 28 Apr.1876 Co.Derry
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Hello Betty....
Have been playing with the BVRI this morning...found this entry re: Alexander Thompson...., you may have this fellow??? but if not could he be yours, better fit date wise?
THOMPSON, Alexander Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1871 Birthplace: 998, Newtownlimavady, Derry, Ire
Recorded in: Londonderry, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: James THOMPSON
Mother: Jane ARBUCKLE
Source: FHL Film 255810 Dates: 1871 - 1872
>>source BVRI, 1998-2001, disc 12<<<
All the Best
Wendy
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Me again....
Just an fyi, Alexander Thompson, from 15 Protestant street....signed the Ulster Covenant in 1912, while in Scotland. This fellow is my Grt Grandfather's brother.
All the Best
Wendy
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betty, birth. ELIZABETH JANE MARSHAL. 17-3-1871 BALLYKELLY, civil district. newtown, limavady,CO.DERRY. parents. ELIZABETH HARPER & JOHN MARSHAL.from civil reg.
regards mary.
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Folks - certainly good hunting today!! We've got the right Marshall girl anyway but don't know about Alexander Thompson yet. I searched PRONI covenant some while ago and found 3 Elizabeth Thompsons (of course) - 2 in Limavady and 1 in Bovevagh and 2 Alexanders from Limavady - heigh-ho.
Philip for Ohio send me a copy of a letter which seems to prove that Elizabeth and Alex had at least one issue - a possible son called Andrew (and maybe an Edward?). As they married in 1894 we are looking at a dob of about 1895 onwards and no later than 1920 because Alexander died then (so aged anthing from 112 to 87?????). Would either of you be able to search anything else.
James Thompson is in my family tree and somewhere I think I have seen the name Jane Arbuckle. I have 2 Jane thompsons died as follows:
Jane died 1943 aged 80
Jane died 1928 aged 40
What do you think aghadowey?
Wendy - this might be the right Alexander (or your other brother???)
Regards
Betty
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Dear mary
I have just copied what you found to Phillip Marshall in Ohio.
Very, very many thanks
Betty
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What do you think aghadowey?
I think there are too many Thompsons in the area to be trying to fit them together this way. You need to go back to what facts you do have and then work from there instead of trying to get any Elizabeth Thompsons and then connecting them to your family.
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Dear aghadowey
there are most definitely FAR too many Thompsons.
Going back to James and Jane (Arbuckle) Thompson - I found 2 x children so far:
Alexander born 1871 (posted elsewhere as about 1868 but I think 1871 is accurate one)
Martha born 1867
I think this is the Alexander who married Elizabeth Marshall Thompson - just can't find any children.
Regards
Betty
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IGI shows 3 children:
1. Robert 17 Dec.1864 Newtown Limavady dist.
2. Martha 5 Feb.1867 Newtown Limavady dist.
3. Alexander 13 Jan.1871 Co.Derry
James Thompson m.(1854 Co.Derry) Jane Ardbuckle so there are probably a few children born before the start of civil registration.
ELIZABETH MARSHALL TO ALEXANDER THOMPSON 26-4-1894 AT CHRISTCHURCH C.OF.I. PARISH DRUMACHOSE, NEWTOWN LIMAVADY, CO. DERRY.
If you got marriage certificate for Alexander Thompson and Elizabeth Marshall (above) it would determine her father's name, etc. and perhaps give you somewhere to start.
What you really need to find are church records but difficult to do that until you are more certain of who you are looking for.
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Dear aghadowey
I wish I could find things the way you do! This gives me a really good start for when I try to find a few certificates. Did you come across any children for this Alexander and Elizabeth? I will try to find birth records for Drumachose because I suspect this was their family church. Family letters from the Marshall family has them working and living in Ardinarff beside Bovevagh C of I.
Regards
Betty
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Did you come across any children for this Alexander and Elizabeth?
Alexander Thompson m.1894 Elizabeth Marshall but Irish civil birth registrations on IGI only go up to c1884.
With more uncommon surnames there are other sources I can look at but too many Thompsons in County Derry.
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thank you anyway aghadowey. Went today to the Registrar's office in Limavady and got the marriage certificate for Alexander and Elizabeth - her father was John Marshall and the home address was correct - so we know it is the right couple anyway. Alexander is down as a widower and a mason (posher than a brickie!). HIS father is also Alexander Thompson - mason. Now there's a turn up because it is not James Thompson. Another wee dead end for a while!
His residence is Isle of Main Limavady - where was that?
Regards
Betty
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Thought marriage certificate would clarify things a bit.
There is a Maine North (Balteagh Parish) and Maine South (Carrick Parish) but not sure about an 'Isle of Main Limavady.'
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Took a magnifying glass to it - Isle of Man street Limavady?
Betty
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Isle of Man Street in Limavady is now William Street- off Captain Villas/Roe Mill Rd & parallel with Ballykelly Road.
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Dear aghadowey - have just found it and link can be seen here
www.jochenlueg.freeuk.com/english/streets.htm
It looks as if this might be Wendy Thompson from Canada's brother to her grt grandfather because it is just around the corner from the old Pound st (Protestant St).
This Alexander seems to have been a widower and his second marriage to Elizabeth Marshall. So where are the children?
Wendy? Over to you at this point because perhaps MY Alexander Thompson lived up country and was not able to read or write but may have owned land at Drumneechy near Bovevagh.
Exciting stuff.
Betty
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Hello Betty....
Have been playing with the BVRI this morning...found this entry re: Alexander Thompson...., you may have this fellow??? but if not could he be yours, better fit date wise?
THOMPSON, Alexander Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1871 Birthplace: 998, Newtownlimavady, Derry, Ire
Recorded in: Londonderry, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: James THOMPSON
Mother: Jane ARBUCKLE
Source: FHL Film 255810 Dates: 1871 - 1872
>>source BVRI, 1998-2001, disc 12<<<
All the Best
Wendy
Wendy - please read the last couple of entries.
Regards, Betty
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Hello folks - whoever is listening (and all are very welcome)
I have just spoken to an older aunt who remembers some family gossip.
Sooo
From marriage cert of Edward Thompson & Jane Bigger 10 Apr 1890 (& he was a widower) - his father was Alexander Thompson (labourer). This is definitely my great grandfather & grandmother - married in Tamlaghtfinlagen Ballykelly (her church) as he was from Gortgarn Dungiven.
From the other marriage cert of Andrew Thompson & Jane Brown of 28 May 1891 married in Bovevagh (her church) as he was from Drumneechy (about a mile or so away), same father's name of Alexander Thompson (Labourer)
Anyway - he would have been my aunt's great uncle and she remembers the names of the family as Edward, Robert, Andrew, James and sister Jessie. Low and behold the 2 witnesses on Andrew's marriage cert are Robert & Jessie.
she did not know that her grandfather had been married twice. Her father James was also a widower and married twice (she is from the 2nd family).
So who was Alexander Thompson then? My, my - I need a bigger wall here.
Regards
Betty
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Andrew, Edward & Jane Thompson of Gortnagross, Dungiven signed Ulster Covenant in 1912 (these sound like your family). Listed under Dungiven is also an Edward, Joseph, Martha S.
Daughter's best friend is Thompson from Dungiven and she'll be here tomorrow- if I see her granny tomorrow afternoon will ask if she knows anything about the Thompsons.
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Ta muchly - going to bed. This has been a busy day. Husband is threatening divorce if I stay on this computer much longer. ;D
Regards
Betty
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Hi betty,
Sorry for the delay in responding...am at work and just checked in to see what is going on.....
Now, my Rachel Livingston(e) who married Robert Thompson, comes from Isle of Man Street in Limavady, her father was Malcomn Livingstone....but here is where things really get interesting...had email last week from a fellow researcher that included entries for a "Maikum and Elizabeth Livingston(e)" from Ballykelly, their children were christened in the Tamalght Finlagan church of Ireland....these pertain to entries from 1790's and 1800....have also gone thru some older correspondence, Regarding the Thompsons....apparently all the children of Rachel and Robert were baptized Church of Ireland.....in Drumachose...you don't happen to know who Alexander's(the labourer) father is??? Find it interesting that there are so many Thompson's who are widowers???
All the best
Wendy
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betty, found two births, now they may be nothing to do with yours, but it was the names that i noticed.
JANE HARPER THOMPSON B. 1895.
MARSHAL THOMPSON B. 1903.
REGARDS MARY.
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Got a few more Thompsons in 1901 census at Ballymena Library this morning-
Isle of Man St. (all Church of Ireland, b. Co.Derry)
8. John THOMPSON 28 farm labourer, wife Lizzie Thompson 25, son William Thompson 3, dau. Harriett Thompson 1.
Protestant St. (all Methodist, b. Co.Derry)
33. John THOMPSON 70 shoe-maker wid., dau. Margaret Thompson 40 house-keeper, son Hugh Thompson, 38, shoe-maker (read only), son Robert Thompson 35 shoe-maker.
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hello ladies - I see you are all online at the moment (Oops aghadowey - don't know if you are a female - sorry!)
Well - definite turn up for the books. I paid £44 for the 4 marriage certificates yesterday and the Registrar took pity on me and said that if I made a list she would copy out all the entries I wanted for £2.50 each.
I agree with you mary - the names have more than a 'hint of a tint' as they say!
I still have only found one entry for Alexander Thompson (labourer) and that was in Griffiths land valuations - he apparently had some land in the townland of Drumneechy, Parish of Bovevagh, Dungiven County Derry - but I can't get a year. Now, I know where Drumneechy is and it is about a mile cross country from Ardinarff, Bovevagh (now called Burnfoot). Any idea how we could find a date aghadowey?
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Dear Wendy
I feel as if Phillip Marshall from Ohio might be your distant cousin not mine but from Alexander Thompson downwards via your grandfather's brother - would that seem right? Both of them being masons and living in the same streets beside each other is just too much of a coincidence. Tamlafinlagan is in Ballykelly 2 miles outside Limavady heading towards Derry and is the burying ground of my husband's family - the McNerlins of Myroe.
I have to go to Derry tomorrow to buy a new computer and I'll stop on the way home.
Betty
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I still have only found one entry for Alexander Thompson (labourer) and that was in Griffiths land valuations - he apparently had some land in the townland of Drumneechy, Parish of Bovevagh, Dungiven County Derry - but I can't get a year. Now, I know where Drumneechy is and it is about a mile cross country from Ardinarff, Bovevagh (now called Burnfoot). Any idea how we could find a date aghadowey?
Date for what? (Griffith's Valuation is c1859 for this area.
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Sorry aghadowey
I meant a date for when he held the land, whether rented or bought. My aunt NINA said that our homefarm was Scriggan just around the corner from Bovevagh Presbyterian church (along the main Dungiven Road). The home farm was sold when my grandad James Thompson's first wife died. He had 2 children as follows: (they were brought up by a relative in Coleraine).
Martha Jane Thompson died aged 21 on 21 Mar 1944
Sarah Thompson moved to Coleraine and married Downes (now in a rest home in Coleraine).
He then married Margaret Jane Thomspon, moved to Terrydremond and died in 1952. Granny then moved to Ballyquin.
Betty
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Valuation books which continue from the printed version of Griffith's Valuation are held at PRONI. You can look up a townland in a series of notebooks until c1930 and thus follow the tenants/ownership of a property. They are very difficult to decipher as the ink has faded (each change/year is marked in a different colour ink but for example the reds, pinks, purples now look alike..). The notebooks are not microfilmed and do not photocopy (due to faded ink).
Most farmers were tenants (Griffith's will give the name of the immediate lessor) and the date the farms were actually bought by the tenants vary from landlord to landlord but in most cases the land was paid off in installments over a long number of years. For example, my husband's great-uncle bought our farm c1908 but my husband remembered it still being paid off in the early 1960s (we still have the paperwork somewhere but unfortunately the deeds only start with the time Uncle Johnny was buying the farm although it had been in the family for generations before). My family's farm was bought c1890 (different landlord) but other places in the area weren't sold until 1920s.
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Dear aghadowey
thanks for that information - I found the following list of Thompsons where you said as follows for 1859
Thompson Alexander Drumneechy Bovevagh Derry
Thompson Archibald Gortnahey Moree Bovevagh Derry
Thompson George Camnish Bovevagh Derry
Thompson James Derrynaflaw Bovevagh Derry
Thompson John Derryard Bovevagh Derry
Thompson John Killibleught Bovevagh Derry
Thompson John Straw Bovevagh Derry
Thompson Maryanne Camnish Bovevagh Derry
Thompson Robin Ardinarive Bovevagh Derry
I have 2 x Archibald Thomspons buried in Bovevagh, looks like father & son
one died in1882 aged 79
another died in 1897 aged 38
and the James is too early for my granda.
Betty
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Daughter's friend is Thompson of Dernaflaw.
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my my! Which family does her father come from - might I also enquire his DOB etc?
Small world around here - as we all know!
Regards
Betty
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Only know parents and grandmother (grandfather is dead). In the school holidays she and my youngest daughter are always together. Daughter has been to stay overnight there lots of times but it's really her mother's family I know more about.
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Dear aghadowey
would she be willing to let me know her parents and grandfathers names?
Betty
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Hello Betty,
It is a coincidence that they live so close together....I'm anxious to find out more about this family. And am hopeful, that when I'm over to Belfast in September I'll have the opportunity to find out more. Seems my Thompsons's may have a connection to the Brown's of Co. Down as well. Even more interesting, my Maternal side is from Belfast, and there is a connection to Brown's there, and my Maternal Grt Grt Granda's marriage witness was a Francis Thompson in 1866.....at St. Anne's in Belfast.....the plot thickens! Rachel Thompson was still alive in 1916, and resideing at 80 Shipquay St, Londonderry, so I should be able to dig up something there....just a thot...have you searched Pensear for any of your rellies....I got a response back regarding my Robert, but I already knew most of the information....
All the Best
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
tried the site - will do more when I come back next week. Going to see the grandchildren in Winchester for the weekend. Next week I am going to take a list of names to the Council registrar and she has said she will search her database for me and only charge me for the ones she has to write out!!!
Rotten weather - got soaked going through the Tamlafinlagan graveyard today - didn't make it back to the car quick enough. Found some Thompsons there but only modern ones and would need to get a good look at church records I think. Everybody deserting the country for warmer climes - all on holiday and nobody to talk to.
Regards
Betty
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Good Morning Betty,
Could you send some of that rain our way??? hee hee hee....supposed to be sunny and hot here all weekend.
Your quite fortunate that the lady in the registrar office is going to help you, wish I had a resource like that!! Pensear is a good site, if you know who your looking for, sometimes it will give ou enough information to allow going back another generation....with any luck you will be more fortunate than I was.
Have a nice time with your grandchildren, I'm sure you will enjoy yourself...it's always nice to get away for a few days.
Talk to you soon
Wendy
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Hello Betty....
Have been playing with the BVRI this morning...found this entry re: Alexander Thompson...., you may have this fellow??? but if not could he be yours, better fit date wise?
THOMPSON, Alexander Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1871 Birthplace: 998, Newtownlimavady, Derry, Ire
Recorded in: Londonderry, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: James THOMPSON
Mother: Jane ARBUCKLE
Source: FHL Film 255810 Dates: 1871 - 1872
>>source BVRI, 1998-2001, disc 12<<<
All the Best
Wendy
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Dear Wendy
finally found that James Thompson and Jane Arbuckle (Ardbuckle) were married in Glendermott 1st Presbyterian church in Londonderry 15 Sep 1854. That's why the registrar in Limavady had no record of them. So presumably they then moved to Limavady or James just went to his wife's church to get married. Son Alexander then born in Limavady 13 Jan 1871. Have not found brothers or sisters yet to link to others in Limavady.
I did find an entry for Elizabeth Thompson born Limavady 15 Nov 1871, daughter of Robert Thompson and Rachael Levingston. This your lot?
Could you also remind me of your grt grandfather James - wife's name? I now have several James marriage entries for this period in Limavady and Dungiven.
I then found my great aunt Jessie Thompson born Limavady/Dungiven 31 Aug 1871 with father as Alexander Thompson and MOTHER Jane Irwin. She got married twice in Clooney Methodist Church Londonderry in 1909 and 1922. No wonder my aunt couldn't remember what happened to her!
In fact - so many of these Thompsons seem to have gotten married twice that the floor is now littered with paper - must have been pretty hard on the wives!!!
Regards
Betty
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Can anyone help me with the name of an area around Dungiven (ish) which I think is spelt BELTEST? Apparently my grandfather James Thompson came from there but I can't find it - probably because the spelling is off.
Many thanks
Betty
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betty, found two births, now they may be nothing to do with yours, but it was the names that i noticed.
JANE HARPER THOMPSON B. 1895.
MARSHAL THOMPSON B. 1903.
REGARDS MARY.
Dear Mary
I have tried to trace these 2 names but no joy. Do you remember where you found them?
Regards
Betty
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Dear Wendy
finally found that James Thompson and Jane Arbuckle (Ardbuckle) were married in Glendermott 1st Presbyterian church in Londonderry 15 Sep 1854. That's why the registrar in Limavady had no record of them. So presumably they then moved to Limavady or James just went to his wife's church to get married. Son Alexander then born in Limavady 13 Jan 1871. Have not found brothers or sisters yet to link to others in Limavady.
I did find an entry for Elizabeth Thompson born Limavady 15 Nov 1871, daughter of Robert Thompson and Rachael Levingston. This your lot?
Could you also remind me of your grt grandfather James - wife's name? I now have several James marriage entries for this period in Limavady and Dungiven.
I then found my great aunt Jessie Thompson born Limavady/Dungiven 31 Aug 1871 with father as Alexander Thompson and MOTHER Jane Irwin. She got married twice in Clooney Methodist Church Londonderry in 1909 and 1922. No wonder my aunt couldn't remember what happened to her!
In fact - so many of these Thompsons seem to have gotten married twice that the floor is now littered with paper - must have been pretty hard on the wives!!!
Regards
Betty
Hello Betty,
Glad to hear that you are getting places with your family!!!...Wish I could say the same, this family does seem to be an elusive lot!
Yes Robert and Rachel who had Elizabeth 15 Nov 1871 are my lot....Robert would be my Grt Grt Grandfather....he was also married twice, Rachel was the second wife,(26 years his junior?? imagine???) so no doubt this is his second family as well ....seems to be a Thompson tradition of sorts! hahhhaa....
My grt Grandfather James Immigrated to Canada about 1913 (have had no joy finding his immigration record of yet, but do have his papers from WW1 from Canada.) he married here in Canada in 1913, a woman named Grace Wilkie Walker, she was from Kirriemuir Scotland.
Good Luck with your continued search with any luck, we'll both sort this massive puzzle!
All the Best
Wendy
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According to IGI John Marshall & Elizabeth Harper had:
1. Joseph born 8 Dec.1865 Ballykelly
2. Elizabeth Jane 17 Mar.1871 Co.Derry
3. Margaret 16 Oct.1873 Co.Derry
4. Thomas 28 Apr.1876 Co.Derry
Dear aghadowey
on another matter - see chat item on Jackson Taggart (my maternal grandfather) - how to I access Union workhouse records? I have found is birth certificate and it says he was born to Annie Taggart at Limavady workhouse Dec 1909.
Regards
Betty McNerlin
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Dear Wendy
I have a Robert Thompson buried in Bovevagh 18 Apr 1894 (no age given) and an Elizabeth Thompson also buried there 22 Feb 1896 (also no age given).
Anything you can link to?
Regards
Betty
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Got the Coleraine Chronicle this morning and there's nearly a full page about Americas looking for relatives Thompson, Marshall, etc. and Marshalls seem to be from Scriggan. They descend from a Hugh Marshall who went to U.S. 1848 age 30 leaving behind lots of brothers and sister, but there's an e-mail address for someone in Ireland to get in touch.
If you are interested I'll get the details from the paper and send you a pm.
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Hi Betty...
Could be him...I know that Rachel was alive in 1916, no mention of Robert tho????...I'm home to Belfast in September and hope to get to Limavady and do some searching...thanks again, any info is good info...
All the Best
Wendy
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Got the Coleraine Chronicle this morning and there's nearly a full page about Americas looking for relatives Thompson, Marshall, etc. and Marshalls seem to be from Scriggan. They descend from a Hugh Marshall who went to U.S. 1848 age 30 leaving behind lots of brothers and sister, but there's an e-mail address for someone in Ireland to get in touch.
If you are interested I'll get the details from the paper and send you a pm.
Good Morning Aghadowey....
I'd be interested in anything regarding Thompson's??? any idea if the Thompson/Marshall connection is from a Phil Marshall???
All the Best
Wendy
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Wendy- will have to check later as paper is downstairs and I am upstairs at the moment but not very mobile.
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No Rush Aghadowey.....hope all is okay with you!!!
Take care
Wendy
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Dear aghadowey & wendy
this is the same Ohio visitor who came to Limavady at beginning of month. Phillip Marshall is from the same family as Alexander Thompson married to Elizabeth Marshall - look back to the beginning of this thread. They are both buried in Drumachose C of I churchyard. It is their children I am trying to find and Alexander's father as we have always hoped that we would have a common ancestor. I can't find out if the same Alexander is the one in my background who ended up a farmer. He was married twice (Elizabeth was his 2nd wife) and I wonder if the Edward and Andrew are the same as my great uncles. Still haven't found the vital link yet - ie Alexander's father and name of his 1st wife.
Regards
Betty
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The newspaper article mentioned a Hugh Thompson born c1830 & 6 brothers & 2 sisters. Are the names of Hugh's siblings known?
Correction- should be Hugh Marshall not Thompson.
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Aghadowey - it is Hugh Marshall (not Thompson). His youngest sister was Elizabeth. I can look you out the other names if you want them.
Regards
Betty
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betty, found two births, now they may be nothing to do with yours, but it was the names that i noticed.
JANE HARPER THOMPSON B. 1895.
MARSHAL THOMPSON B. 1903.
REGARDS MARY.
Dear Mary
these dates might fit - where did you come across them?
Regards
Betty
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Yes, Betty, I meant Hugh Marshall not Thompson.
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Hugh had a brother called John (wife Lizabeth) who had a family who all lived in Ballyclose St Limavady and Elizabeth was his youngest daughter. I will email Phillip for you and get all the rest of John's brothers and sisters if you are interested? I was able to get him a copy of Elizabeth's marriage cert recently and he was very pleased.
Regards
Betty
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betty, ifound the index for the births on irish genealogy.
regards mary.
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Thanks Mary
I have requested birth certificates - at £6 each, this site certainly makes money! However, since I can't get any further with them, so be it.
Ta muchly
Betty
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betty, found two births, now they may be nothing to do with yours, but it was the names that i noticed.
JANE HARPER THOMPSON B. 1895.
MARSHAL THOMPSON B. 1903.
REGARDS MARY.
Dear Mary
I have tried to trace these 2 names but no joy. Do you remember where you found them?
Regards
Betty
Dear Mary
thought you might be interested that I got a reply from familyulster. Jane Harper Thompson is the daughter of Alexander and Elizabeth Thompson (Marshall family history) but Marshall Thompson is not - he is the son of Marshal Thompson, Derry.
Regards
Betty
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Dear Mary
as you are online, I wonder if you can help. I have narrowed down a couple of those Thompsons who married twice but am missing a section.
My grandfather married twice. He was James Thompson (Bovevagh) and the missing first wife is around the period 1920-1930. I have come across a James Thompson married to Jeannie Thompson May 1920 in Bovevagh but don't know if this is the right one. Would there be a likelihood that Jane Harper Thompson was known as Jeannie?
James Thompson born 13/01/1897, died 2/2/55 aged 58 yrs.
Jane Harper Thompson appears to have vanished otherwise as the Registrar in Limavady has not come across her either.
Regards
Betty
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The marriage would give her father's name. Jane might have been known as Jeannie but most like would have signed as Jane on the marriage.
If you can find no trace of Jane Harper Thompson in the registry office it could be that she a) died young, b) never married or c) didn't marry in Limavady area.
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Dear aghadowey
Yes - all of those options true. I think I will have to pay for a search for a death certificate and work from there. At least I now have her birth date as a starting point.
Regards
Betty
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If she did get married or died outside of Ireland/Northern Ireland you will not get a death certificate.
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betty, is this the marriage. JAMES THOMPSON TO JEANNIE THOMPSON 18-5-1920 AT BOVEVAGH COFI. BOVEVAGH PARISH. NEWTOWN LIMAVADY. CO. DERRY.
REGARDS MARY.
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Dear mary
yes indeed it is - any mention of both fathers names?
Regards
Betty
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Hi Elizabeth,
I looked up Thompsons in the Griffith Valuation and found the following in the parish of Bovevagh:-
James farm of 52 acres Dernaflaw
Maryanne House Camnish
George House Camnish
Alexander House and garden Half acre Drumneecy
I realise that this is earlier than you were looking for but it may come in handy later.
Regards
Morrison Stewart
Burnfoot
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Dear kingkerswell
thanks for that! every little bit of the puzzle helps - it's the Alexander from Drumneechy that I'm trying to tie down. What was the year you found the valuation for? I thought Alexander had a leasehold - now I know it's a house and garden. I'm trying to find out if he moved from Coolessan Limavady to Drumneechy to this house.
And James - I know Granda had a farm at Scriggan but I need to find out which generation James this is.
Many thanks
Betty
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Hi Elizabeth,
The year was about 1858. I also looked for Scriggan for that time but could find no Thompsons. However there were several Thompsons in the parish of Dungiven which I believe includes Scriggan, but the townland was not given. This might mean that they actually lived in the village. With the names Stewart, Morrison, Irwin and Haslett I thought I had a difficult job but when I looked at the number of Thompsons I do not envy you. Even I have Thompson relatives but they are fairly recent.
Regards
Morrison Stewart
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Dear Morrison
Are you Burnfoot, Dungiven? I came across a Haslet in the Civil War in America tonight and he came from the family buried in Bovevagh presbyterian. I found it when I googled Scriggan. Very impressive if he belongs to you.
Yes - Thompsons - don't bother for a while. Wait until I get them altogether and I'll make you a Xmas present of them. have you come across any Harpers in your area?
Regards
Betty
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betty, ifound the index for the births on irish genealogy.
regards mary.
Dear Mary
I am wondering if Edward Thompson born 1848/9 (father Alexander Thompson) had a brother Alexander Thompson born 1845. Can you recommend any good sites which let you see siblings instead of guessing? I only get limited success with IGI.
Also, did marriages sometimes not get entered at all? Family history says that Andrew Thompson married Catherine George and I have seen the headstone where she is named Catherine thompson died 17/2/1949 aged 48 yrs but I cannot trace a marriage cert anywhere.
Regards
Betty
(ps) I am getting better at this but it sure eats up the hours.
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betty, did'nt find any fathers name for that marriage. no luck with the births.
this is the only marriage i found with these names. EDWARD THOMPSON TO ELLEN GEORGE. 14-5-1914 AT DUNGIVEN COFI. PARISH DUNGIVEN. CIVIL DIS. NEWTOWN LIMAVADY. CO. DERRY.
REGARDS MARY.
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Hi Betty,
Made a mistake on my last mail. I looked at the 1831census and not the Griffith Valuation . Yes I live in Burnfoot and the Colonel Haslett is one of mine but not my direct line.
Regards
Morrison
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Dear Mary
yes - my great-uncle. Have the record of the marriage but just cannot find Andrew Thompson and Catherine George anywhere.
Had some luck this morning when I came into work. A lady in one of my IT clubs is a Thomspon and brought in a handful of Thompson birth, deaths and marriages from the Bovevagh area. NONE of them belong to my side but they can all be eliminated, which is every bit as good. Isn't that just wonderful.
Thanks for trying on my behalf.
Regards
Betty
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Hi Betty,
I believe we are trying to help Vicki find the family of Douglas. I tried to phone you tonight but you were not in, assuming I had the correct number. I will try again.
Regards
Morrison Stewart
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you fill find details at www.nwlla.org
Regards
Betty
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betty, ifound the index for the births on irish genealogy.
regards mary.
Dear Mary
I am wondering if Edward Thompson born 1848/9 (father Alexander Thompson) had a brother Alexander Thompson born 1845. Can you recommend any good sites which let you see siblings instead of guessing? I only get limited success with IGI.
Also, did marriages sometimes not get entered at all? Family history says that Andrew Thompson married Catherine George and I have seen the headstone where she is named Catherine thompson died 17/2/1949 aged 48 yrs but I cannot trace a marriage cert anywhere.
Regards
Betty
(ps) I am getting better at this but it sure eats up the hours.
Dear Mary
I have found first marriage of Grt Grandfather (Edward Thompson to Rebecca McCurdy 1870) and have found one daughter Margaret born 1871. I then found 2 marriages and wonder if you would be able to source for me which one belongs to my family?
Margaret Thompson married Hugh Smith Bovevagh 22 Apr 1904
or
Margaret Thompson married James Seawright Bovevagh 04 May 1899
Regards
Betty
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Mary
my apologies - I forgot that these marriages will be in the Registrar's book (after THE date!) I'll go there this week and get transcriptions.
Many thanks
Betty
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The marriage would give her father's name. Jane might have been known as Jeannie but most like would have signed as Jane on the marriage.
If you can find no trace of Jane Harper Thompson in the registry office it could be that she a) died young, b) never married or c) didn't marry in Limavady area.
Dear aghadowey
I have come across a reference to a Jane Thompson who died in 1914 and was buried in Drumachose (don't know which Drumachose, whether CofI or Presby). I searched both graveyards last week and came up with nothing. If this is Jane Harper Thompson then she would have been about 19. I have asked emeraldancestors to try and trace this death but no result. Would you be able to help? I found the reference in the irishgenealoy gravestone index but couldn't pay using worldpay facility.
Regards
Betty
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Dear Aghadowey
by the way, Jeannie Thompson was NOT Jane Harper Thompson. Jeannie turned out to be the mssing first wife of my grandfather James Thompson - a complete surprise. No father mentioned on marriage cert, therefore don't know who mother was either. Have also managed to trace missing relatives of that marriage to Coleraine (Downes). by sheer chance I rang the wrong number of same surname in Coleraine and spoke to a very old lady whose father seems to have purchased the land from my grt-grt grandfather. We had a wonderful chat and she is aware that there is a family bible somewhere but its location had evaded her. I might be able to trace it if I find relevant phone numbers for the Starrett family who then bought the land and had the wee country shop just at the turnoff to Drumneechy road.
Isn't life just a series of coincidences!!
Regards
Betty
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For those of you who may have been following this topic - I have some surprising news from a lady called Doreen Stone, Worcester, England. She writes:
My grandparents were Alexander and Elizabeth Thompson, buried in Christ Church Limavady. They had a daughter Jane who never married, a daughter Margaret who married Henry Tate of Limavady, and a son John Ranki Thompson who settled and married in Belfast. My father is no buried in Christ Church Limavady with his parents.
Out of the blue and such a lovely surprise since I had found no mention of the children Margaret or John.
Betty
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Ah Betty....
So Glad to hear your wonderful news!!! Here's hoping I have the same luck with my Thompson's....
All the Best
Wendy
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For anyone following this Thompson thread, I have the following:
Jane Harper Thompson (Jeannie) unmarried, died 02/04/1973 (daughter of Alexander & Elizabeth Thompson)
had 2 children as follows:
Ethel Thompson died 27/05/1961 (unmarried I think)
Gerald Thompson died 29/11/1980
Also there is Violet Thompson whom I believe is Gerald's wife died 27/02/1988
All buried in ChristChurch graveyard Limavady.
No children that I can trace.
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For those wishing to follow the Thompson thread, I have managed to get some part of the family tree online. If you go to www.storyfinders.co.uk and navigate to the Limavady site, under the tab Research, you will find THOMPSONS OF LIMAVADY. The following link also goes online.
http://www.familytreelegends.com/trees/bmcnerlin/1/reports/descendant/35
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Ach Betty....
Just had a wee listen to your BBC interview....brilliant!!! Again good luck in your quest....
Wendy
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Dear Aghadowey
by the way, Jeannie Thompson was NOT Jane Harper Thompson. Jeannie turned out to be the mssing first wife of my grandfather James Thompson - a complete surprise. No father mentioned on marriage cert, therefore don't know who mother was either. Have also managed to trace missing relatives of that marriage to Coleraine (Downes). by sheer chance I rang the wrong number of same surname in Coleraine and spoke to a very old lady whose father seems to have purchased the land from my grt-grt grandfather. We had a wonderful chat and she is aware that there is a family bible somewhere but its location had evaded her. I might be able to trace it if I find relevant phone numbers for the Starrett family who then bought the land and had the wee country shop just at the turnoff to Drumneechy road.
Isn't life just a series of coincidences!!
Regards
Betty
betty53, I know this is an old thread but I may be able to help you. I did a google search tonight for Drumneechy and Starret, and found this thread. The Starretts you are talking about are my grandparents that had the corner shop. They called the house Drumneechy. They have both passed away, as has my father, but I have two uncles who still live in the area and may be able to help. One of them has the Starrett family bible, I'm not sure if this is the one you are looking for? Let me know if you are still chasing this up! Hope this helps.
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betty, ifound the index for the births on irish genealogy.
regards mary.
Dear Mary
I am wondering if Edward Thompson born 1848/9 (father Alexander Thompson) had a brother Alexander Thompson born 1845. Can you recommend any good sites which let you see siblings instead of guessing? I only get limited success with IGI.
Also, did marriages sometimes not get entered at all? Family history says that Andrew Thompson married Catherine George and I have seen the headstone where she is named Catherine thompson died 17/2/1949 aged 48 yrs but I cannot trace a marriage cert anywhere.
Regards
Betty
(ps) I am getting better at this but it sure eats up the hours.
Dear Mary
I have found first marriage of Grt Grandfather (Edward Thompson to Rebecca McCurdy 1870) and have found one daughter Margaret born 1871. I then found 2 marriages and wonder if you would be able to source for me which one belongs to my family?
Margaret Thompson married Hugh Smith Bovevagh 22 Apr 1904
or
Margaret Thompson married James Seawright Bovevagh 04 May 1899
Regards
Betty
Hi Betty,
Margaret 1 is my GG Grandmother. Her father is listed as Archibald Thompson born in 1822 (supposedly).
I have been trying and struggling to research the Thompson line of Bovevagh. Archibald married Elizabeth Jane Loughlin in 1862.
I cannot find any record of Archibald or Elizabeth Jane anywhere aside from their children's baptisms. I searched in the census's for both of them and found nothing.
There are no wills or burial records for Elizabeth Jane or Archibald. I have came across the two Archibald burials that you listed but they don't tie in with the 1822 birth date.
I did find this but I do not know if this is my Elizabeth Jane: https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenant/image.aspx?image=W0016330004
Archibald's father is listed as John, and he at the time lived in Glenconway. There is the issue that there appears to be another Thompson family in Lisdillion over the road, I don't know if my branch are connected to them or if my Archibald came from there.
Do you know anything about this 'Archibald' that I have referenced or where I could look to find him? I know that he was Church of Ireland. I'm not sure whether to look in Boveagh or Banagher grave yards, or if I should be searching for a Samuel?! This is very frustrating!
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Tirkeeran/Upper_Cumber/Killgort/16/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Kennaught/Bovevagh/Drumniecy/13/
I have no idea, honestly. There is too many Thompson's to tie them down.
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For those of you who may have been following this topic - I have some surprising news from a lady called Doreen Stone, Worcester, England. She writes:
My grandparents were Alexander and Elizabeth Thompson, buried in Christ Church Limavady. They had a daughter Jane who never married, a daughter Margaret who married Henry Tate of Limavady, and a son John Ranki Thompson who settled and married in Belfast. My father is no buried in Christ Church Limavady with his parents.
Out of the blue and such a lovely surprise since I had found no mention of the children Margaret or John.
BettyHELLO there! I am interested in knowing more on the Henry TATE who married to that Thompson woman! thank you!