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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: betty53 on Sunday 24 June 07 22:25 BST (UK)
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I believe my grandfather Jack McKay was adopted by the McKay family of dungiven, Burnfoot, Bovevagh CI (where most of the family McKays are buried). Family history says that his name may have been Jackson Taggart (or McTaggart). He was born in very early 1900s, married Eliza Gordon of Carrick, Terrydremond and moved to a small farm in Cloghan Drumsurn. Any help appreciated.
Betty McNerlin
Limavady
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hello again betty, welcome to rootschat, i found one only for that time frame.now this is only an index, there is a fee for the full info. sorry i don't known the cost. i found it on irish geneaolgy.if you google it you will find it.
JACKSON TAGGART 1909.
i found his marriage from a different source.
JOHN MCKAY TO ELIZABETH GORDON. 17-3-1932. IN CARRICK C.OF.I LIMAVADY, CO. DERRY.
regards mary.
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betty, found this, wondered if he was related to your jackson.
marriage.JACKSON TAGGART TO ANNIE COX 19-7-1886 AT BALLYWILLAN C.OF.I PARISH BALLYWILLIN, COLERAINE, CO ANTRIM.
REGARDS MARY.
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Lady - you are fast! Do you KNOW how long I have been looking for this sort of info? Admittedly it took a long time to get the actual name and perhaps place but I am so impressed by the help you have given me in the last few days as I had other queries as well. I only found this site by accident on this weekend.
Where do you actually look for the births and marriages? I have made an appointment to go to Belfast to look for some birth certificates on 5th July this year so maybe I could save some search time.
Very many thanks
Betty
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To Mary
where did you find the marriage to Elizabeth Gordon (my maternal grandmother)?
Regards
Betty
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hello betty, about the elizabeth buired in the cof i cemetery, that would'nt be unusual, my gggrandparents were presbyerian but are buried in a cofi graveyard.
if you have other bmd that you need to find, i would be more than happy to have a look for them.
if you like you can sent them to me by PM.
REGARDS MARY.
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Dear Mary
would you have anything specific on the birth of jackson Taggart like parents names etc to let me get the birth certificate?
Regards
Betty
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betty, what i posted was all i found, there can't have been to many jackson taggart 's born in the same year. if you think that its his birth go for it.
i use familyulster.com they will give you all the info. thats on the birth cert for £6.they will sent it to you by e-mail it takes about a week.
regards mary.
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hello again betty, welcome to rootschat, i found one only for that time frame.now this is only an index, there is a fee for the full info. sorry i don't known the cost. i found it on irish geneaolgy.if you google it you will find it.
JACKSON TAGGART 1909.
i found his marriage from a different source.
JOHN MCKAY TO ELIZABETH GORDON. 17-3-1932. IN CARRICK C.OF.I LIMAVADY, CO. DERRY.
regards mary.
Mary - could I ask you for the link where you found the entry for Jackson Taggart - many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Betty
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betty, this is where i found the index for jackson
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/frame_1280.cfm
regards mary.
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Dear Mary
very many thanks - I will visit the centre next week.
Regards
Betty
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Dear Mary
I have got the details of my grandfather's birth certificate. His birth was registered at Limavady Workhouse and his mum's name was Annie Taggart, no father's name given. I know that Limavady Workhouse became the Roe Valley Hospital and is now LCDI (Limavady Community Development Initiative). Are records of what become of people living in the workhouses held anywhere? Also, would your research pull up Annie Taggart from anywhere?
Regards
Betty
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betty, could annie taggart be nee cox, maybe the jackson taggart she married died or left her before their son was born.
regards mary.
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Dear Mary,
thanks for that - I'll have a search. I now know that quite a few taggarts left Limavady prior to 1900 and went to America - so I have contacted some there just in case). I asked at LCDI in Limavady and Damien Corr said that I needed to get info from PRONI in Belfast and a look at the Minutes books because they were quite meticulous with their entries.
Ta muchly
Betty
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Dear mary
have just read that poor law registers can only be read 100 years after the last entry in a book. If my grandfather's birth was registered in 1909 then I probably cannot see any registers until 1910 onwards.
What made you come up with the name COX? I havve found an entry for Annie Cox of Aghadowey born 25 Jun 1872 but have not linked her anywhere yet. Is this the one you found?
Regards
Betty
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Annie Cox born 25 June 1872 Aghadowey district was the daughter of William Thomas Cox, labourer, Lisnamuck, and Isabella Nelson, Bovagh. They were married 9 Mar.1863 Coleraine Registry Ofice and had several other children. Daughters Isabella (age 6 in Dec.1871) & Matilda (age 5 in June 1873) both attended Milltown Female School in Aghadowey but no sign there of Annie, so perhaps she died young. The family were Presbyterian and have a plot in the church at Aghadowey but there is no gravestone.
Just because people have the same surname does not mean that they are related to each other.
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Thanks aghadowey, but have you come across any Taggarts in Limavady for this time?
Regards
Betty
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Limavady is a bit outside the area most of my records cover and have only taken notes of my few relatives that lived outside Limavady.
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Dear aghadowey
thank you anyway.
Regards, Betty
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hello again betty, welcome to rootschat, i found one only for that time frame.now this is only an index, there is a fee for the full info. sorry i don't known the cost. i found it on irish geneaolgy.if you google it you will find it.
JACKSON TAGGART 1909.
i found his marriage from a different source.
JOHN MCKAY TO ELIZABETH GORDON. 17-3-1932. IN CARRICK C.OF.I LIMAVADY, CO. DERRY.
regards mary.
Dear Mary
I have come across the following but can't get any further:
Daniel Taggart married Sarah Mullen 24 May 1859 at Bovevagh
Children traced so far are:
Margaret born 17 Jan 1864
Sarah Jane born 28 Aug 1870
Daniel born 01 Apr 1876
Isabella born 13 May 1878
All born Bovevagh (my roots area) - all Taggarts but now stuck and hoping one of them had a daughter called Annie.
Regards
Betty
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betty, some time back i gave you a marriage of jackson taggart to annie cox.
regards mary.
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Betty- IGI lists other children besides the 4 you mentioned:
-Robert Taggart born 13 Apr.1866 Co.Derry.
-Margaret Taggart born 9 Aug.1872 Ballykelly district.
-Margaret Taggart born 15 July 1874 Ireland.
-John Lyle Homer Taggart born 12 Aug.1880 Limavady.
Births for Margaret (1864) and Sarah Jane (1870) are submitted entries but list birthplace as Killyblugh, Bovevagh. Think it should be Killybleught instead of Killyblugh.
And in Pedigree Resource File:
Elizabeth Anne Taggart born 3 Mar.1866, died Canada, married Robert Rosborough. Her birthdate conflicts with Robert's but is a submitted entry so the date may be incorrect or equally there could be two Daniel Taggarts each married to a Sarah Mullan.
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Dear Mary
my abject apologies - I have an entire floor littered with both Taggarts and Thompsons and should have read back to the beginning of the thread. As you quite rightly say, there aren't too many Jacksons about and just maybe he married a lass from Coleraine. What keeps sending me back to Bovevagh is that the McKays who adopted him came from Bovevagh. I can't read the minutes of the workhouse until at least 2010 because there is closure of 100 years on registers.
I'll try to find jackson snr again - then try for his marriage certificate.
Riveting stuff this - keeps me back from marking homeworks.
Regards
Betty
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ps Mary
you are right about Killybleught - I had printed off a list of parishes of Bovevagh.
Betty
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Betty- I was the one who posted the details about Taggarts and connection to Killybleught.
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Dear aghadowey
again - apologies - just getting toooo excited!!! Does my nerves in as well waiting for familyulster to send details.
Ta muchly
Betty
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Dear Mary
just to let you know (and anyone else reading this) that I got the details of the Annie Cox who married a Jackson Taggart as follows:
Married at Ballywillan CofI on 19 July 1886
His father was Robert Jackson
Her father was William Cox
Jackson Taggart died 25 Dec 1931 at Glenmanus Portrush
Death registered by his son Percy Taggart
I don't know if this Jackson & Annie Taggart were then the parents of my grandfather Jackson Taggart of 1909.
where do you reckon I could go from here?
Regards
Betty
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betty, what about a birth cert. for your jackson taggart, was he registered?that would prove it one way or the other.
regards mary.
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Mary, I got the birth register details from familyulster. His birth was registered at the workhouse under Annie Taggart, no father mentioned. Speaking to a member of the family again - even though he was obviously a young child when he heard this (from my grandmother's side), his exact words were "the mackays took him in and reared him". Could mean several things but how to link this Annie Taggart and Jackson Taggart to anyone else is not easy. I know PRONI will take a while to answer but I will write to them in Belfast and try to get access to the Minute books about his particular case even though those files will not be released for another couple of years. Either that, or I try another strand with the McKay side. It was only 1909 - there must still be a couple of eldsters alive who might remember him. So far I have stayed in the family circle or on-line - still got aunties.
Regards
Betty
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sorry betty, you did give me that info. before. betty have you tried a baptismal cert. i just don't know where we can go from here, its a real stumper.
regards mary.
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Dear Mary
I'm going to write to PRONI and give that a go. Apparently the Minute books are very detailed and may be worth waiting for.
Thank you anyway
Regards
Betty
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Have just read in the newspaper that a member of the Taggart family in Drumsurn (which is where my grandfather finally settled in a wee hill farm) is paying £1million to have Lionel Ritchie sing for his new bride at his wedding in the near future. Family fortunes worth £15 million! - Well, well - hope I find I'm related!!!!
Betty
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Betty,
Just joined this site last week. Did you have any luck with your Jackson Taggart at PRONI. The reason I ask is that the Jackson Taggart and Annie Cox from Portrush are my Great Grandparents. They had several children including Percy(my Grandfather) who registered Jacksons death. Another of Jackson and Annies children was Annie born in Glenmanus Portrush in c1891. I believe that this is your "Annie" she may have named her illegitimate son after her father. Annie settled in Dungiven and married an Edward Doherty and had a large family. Annie appears to have had very little to do with her Portrush family after she went to Dungiven.
Margaret
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Dear Margaret
a wonderful surprise! I have sent you a personal message.
Regards
Betty
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Betty,
Last thursday I was looking at the Limavady Workhouse records in PRONI, but only from a general interest point of view to see what information they held. The minute books are a record of Guardians meetings and do not deal with individual births and deaths. The Master's Journal, 1844-1923 in 5 volumes, is a better bet. It certainly deals with individual deaths and may contain births. The PRONI ref. is BG/18/F/1. Hope I was not too late getting this message to you.
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very many thanks for that - it will save me a heck of lot of wasted time. I did not get to Belfast yet.
Regards
Betty
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Betty,
Just joined this site last week. Did you have any luck with your Jackson Taggart at PRONI. The reason I ask is that the Jackson Taggart and Annie Cox from Portrush are my Great Grandparents. They had several children including Percy(my Grandfather) who registered Jacksons death. Another of Jackson and Annies children was Annie born in Glenmanus Portrush in c1891. I believe that this is your "Annie" she may have named her illegitimate son after her father. Annie settled in Dungiven and married an Edward Doherty and had a large family. Annie appears to have had very little to do with her Portrush family after she went to Dungiven.
Margaret
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HI HAVE JUST JOINED THIS SITE AND I M ALSO TRACING JACKSON TAGGART .AND HIS ANCESTORS..... HIS DAUGHTER,ANNIE JANE MARRIED EDWARD DOHERTY , THEY HAD A LARGE FAMILY AND ONE OF HER DAUGHTERS IS MY MOTHER IN LAW...VERY INTERESTED IN ANY INFORMATION..HOPE THIS MAKES SENSE AS I'M VERY NEW TO THIS
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Hi Megbe,
Lovely to see your post I will send you a Personal message later today and give you information on the family. Jackson Taggart was my Great Grand Father.
Margaret
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Welcome to Rootschat, megbe.
New members need to make at least 3 posts to use PM (Personal Message) system to exchange personal information, recent family details, email addresses, etc.
www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
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Hi Aghadowey,
Can Megbe receive a PM with only 2 posts?
Margaret
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Don't think so- it's usually just a matter of waiting until a person has made their 3 posts to start using PM system.
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Cheers - I'll wait until another one pops up
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Thanks for the swift reply. look forward to hearing from you.
megbe
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Hi have read facts about three posts and am trying to put that right... Bear with me as I am no computer wizard.. will enlist help of my daughter who is Great Great Grand-Daughter of Jackson Taggart and doing her family tree !
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Dear megbe
I would be interested to know if your AnniBetty,
Just joined this site last week. Did you have any luck with your Jackson Taggart at PRONI. The reason I ask is that the Jackson Taggart and Annie Cox from Portrush are my Great Grandparents. They had several children including Percy(my Grandfather) who registered Jacksons death. Another of Jackson and Annies children was Annie born in Glenmanus Portrush in c1891. I believe that this is your "Annie" she may have named her illegitimate son after her father. Annie settled in Dungiven and married an Edward Doherty and had a large family. Annie appears to have had very little to do with her Portrush family after she went to Dungiven.
Margaret
e Jane is the one in my history as well.
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I have just found some info about Jackson Taggart from the 1911 census - anyone who wishes to correspond - can you please PM me as this would affect people still alive.
Regards
Betty
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I have a McKay/Jackson marriage which may be of interest.
Jane Jackson, Largy, married Thomas McKay, Drumsurn (possibly Drummond - very unclear) 12th July 1860 in Balteagh Pres Church. Father of Jane was David Jackson a labourer and father of Thomas McKay was Joseph McKay, also a labourer.
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I have a McKay/Jackson marriage which may be of interest.
Jane Jackson, Largy, married Thomas McKay, Drumsurn (possibly Drummond - very unclear) 12th July 1860 in Balteagh Pres Church. Father of Jane was David Jackson a labourer and father of Thomas McKay was Joseph McKay, also a labourer.
This is part of my husband's McKay family. And yes it is Drumsurn, They lived in Drumsurn Lower in the Valuation books. Joseph McKay's widow Mary died 13 Aug. 1867 in Drumsurn, the informant was a Jane McKay, So Joseph McKay/ McCay died before 1867. I'm missing any information on Joseph McKay/McCay jr. because in the Valuation books in Drumsurn Lower a Joseph McKay was still listed 1883-1892 In the 1899-1910 the name Joseph McCay is crossed out.
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They lived in Drumsurn Lower in the Valuation books.
...in the Valuation books in Drumsurn Lower a Joseph McKay was still listed 1883-1892.
Drumsurn Lower Balteagh Londonderry 1883-1898 VAL/12/B/31/19C
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/SearchResults.aspx
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/balteagh/lislane/drumsurn-lower/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4822530#map=12/55.0154/-6.8805