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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: csmalley on Wednesday 20 June 07 20:37 BST (UK)
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I'm struggling to find any more information on my direct maiden name line (the one i particularly want to trace!) and am looking for some advice on where to go now.
The furthest back i have found (thanks to the IGI :-\) is Thomas Swinnock, married to Martha Mason in 1775 so he was probably born about 1750-55. His birth, unfortunately, isn't on there!
Where do I go from here? Anything past the census i get a bit confused :-[ I obviously need to look at the Maidstone Parish Registers, is there any way i can do that sat many miles away in Nottinghsmahire?!
Thanks!
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There are a few SWINOCK entries among the Maidstone parish records on this site
(including an early entry for the name SWINEOAK)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mrawson/maidextr.html
There are also some other SWINNOCK entries on the site, which is searchable
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mrawson/
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There is a Baptism for a Thomas SWINNOCK in 1850 at Boxley.
A John SWINNOCK of Boxley was master of the workhouse in the 1750s.
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Thanks Bearkat. Have seen these entries before, still can't seem to work out who Thomas' parents were. Although, it is likely there's a link with the John Swinnock in Boxley.
Its so frustrating, its such a rare name I was hoping it'd be fairly easy to trace! Looks like i might have to leave this one for now...
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Short of taking the long trip down to the county records office in Canterbury, you could try your nearest LDS Family History Centre...they should be able to order in on microfilm the registers for pretty much anything that's been filmed really. If I remember correctly, there's two LDS centres in Nottinghamshire...one in Nottingham itself, and one in Mansfield.
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I just found your letter on this thread... and I too am related to Thomas Swinnock. He was my GGGG Grandfather - through my father's line. I too live in Nottinghamshire.
I haven't been able to get any further back than you, I'm afraid, at the moment. If you DO find anything further I'd be thrilled if you'd keep me 'in the loop'!!
Cheers
Gill
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Maidstone marriages 1754-1911 are included on the Mid Kent Marriage Index if it's any help http://woodchurchancestry.org.uk/midkentmarriages/
There are also some references to wills http://www.kentarchaeology.ac/ekwills_a/index.html which together with http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp means an almost complete index for pre 1858 East Kent wills.
Casalguidi :)
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Thank you for those links.... I'll go along and have a look now! :)
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From CD 26 Kent Family History Society transcription of Maidstone All Saints Parish records -
No trace of Thomas Swinnock (or variations) baptism in the mid 1700s. Only Thomas' in the 1600s
Their marriage record shows 11/2/1775 both of the parish and single. Witnesses Ann Mason & Mary May.
I presume you have their 8 + maybe another 2 children.
Also a Martha Mason daughter of Allen & Martha Mason bap 30/1/1754 and she is the only Martha Mason bap in 1700s so could be a good candidate.
If you have only used the IGI to date for pre 1837 data I would advise you to look at the original records as well because of transcription errors. Sometimes you find extra information that can be very helpful. Even the above information is from a transcription and could have errors. You can order and look at filmed copies of parish records at your nearest LDS Family History Centre in Notts. Their website will give you the address etc.
The other thing is that Maidstone was a garrison town and therefore people from all over the country were coming and going which does not make tracing them very easy.
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Thank you, Modem, for your instructive reply! :)
"From CD 26 Kent Family History Society transcription of Maidstone All Saints Parish records -
No trace of Thomas Swinnock (or variations) baptism in the mid 1700s. Only Thomas' in the 1600s
Their marriage record shows 11/2/1775 both of the parish and single. Witnesses Ann Mason & Mary May.
I presume you have their 8 + maybe another 2 children."
I hadn't heard of the CDs one could buy - so yes, I've been using the IGI transcripts so far, and scraps of information that I could glean from forums and the like. I haven't any knowledge of the 8+ children either!!
I really shall have to visit the LDS centre in Notts. I also want to find out about Barfoots in the area too - so I will be able to get myself a rent book and camp out there probably! ;D
Because the IGI records didn't show very much for Maidstone I presumed that the records were not transcribed yet or that they had somehow disappeared or been destroyed. It's good to know that they DO exist. However, with relatives all over the UK it can be expensive at times trying to find people and their records... I am now a pensioner and have to ration what I buy otherwise I'd be a real spendthrift!!
Thanks again for your information
Cheers
Gill
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This website is really useful for finding out what records have been indexed/transcribed for parishes in Kent
http://www.our-families.info/external/kent_parish_registers.html
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Hi Gillyches! Great to see someone else hunting the Swinnocks! ;D
I have got no further in the last couple of years unfortunately, although i must admit my research has been on hold for a while. I do have the 8 children (but not the ?+2) so can give you all the info i have on those Gill if you need it. From memory, i got them from the IGI.
I also have Allen and Martha as parents to Martha Mason - not rock solid, but based on the fact that she's the only baptism i could find :-X
Am trying to slowly get back into research mode so hopefully in the next few months we will crack Thomas!
Clare
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Hi CS Malley.... Great to hear from you and great to know that you have the details of the other children!
I've have sent you a message while you are online... and hope that you get it!
Gill
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"This website is really useful for finding out what records have been indexed/transcribed for parishes in Kent
http://www.our-families.info/external/kent_parish_registers.html "
Thanks for this, Bearkat
(Eer.... I hope I remembered correctly how your name was spelled! ???)
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Hi Gillyches
Will PM you later this evening with all the stuff from the PRs rather than take up lots of Forum space. If thats OK?
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That's fine... does PM mean 'Personal Message'? I assume it does so don't answer unless I'm wrong!
Cheers!