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Waterman Family Tree
I would love to hear from anyone else who is tracing the Waterman surname. I have a huge amount of Waterman information which I am happy to share with anyone who is interested. I've managed to go back as far as Isaac Waterman 1658 but I do have one or two areas which I am not 100% certain about so it would be nice to have another person to compare notes with!
My personal Waterman tree started in Hatfield Broad Oak, moved on to High Roding and finally ended up in Halifax, West Yorkshire. I have traced different branches of the tree to Stanstead Mountfitchett, Walthamstow, Marylebone, Somerset, America and Australia.
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Hi Kathy
I am not researching the Waterman family tree, but I am researching the Warwick family tree who were just across the fields from Hatfield Broad Oak at Farnham in Essex. I only have one contact with the Waterman family and that was a marriage between William Waterman and Elizabeth Warwick which took place at Farnham on 25th December 1806. The banns were read at the church the previous three weeks. It would appear that they are both alive on the 1841 census and residing at The Green, Birchanger, Essex, again just down the road from Farnham. William on the census is recorded as 53 or 58 years old and Elizabeth is recorded as 54 years old. I have taken the Warwick's back to the 1550's, but am not sure which Elizabeth Warwick this one is as there were a few about at this time. To date I do not know if William and Elizabeth had children. If you can tie in William I am more than willing to share any Warwick information. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
Martin
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Hi Martin,
Thanks for your message. This branch of my Waterman tree is quite distant so I'm not tracing the Warwick family, but I do appreciate the offer thank you.
This is the information I have which you might find helpful:
Elizabeth Warwick was the daughter of William Warwick and Mary Coban. Like you said, Elizabeth married William Waterman on 25th December 1806 in Farnham, Essex. They had 2 children that I know of, Charlotte Waterman born 1807 in Birchanger, Essex and Frances Waterman born 1808 in Birchanger, Essex. Both daughters moved to Salt Lake City so I would assume they were mormons?
Incase you are interested, William was born in 1788 and was the son of Ward Waterman and Martha Trott.
Kind regards, Kathy.
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P.S. I forgot to mention - I found amongst my notes something which seems very odd, and therefore probably wrong, but I wondered if you knew anything about it...
William Waterman had a brother named Isaac. I have written down (surrounded by question marks!) that he possibly married Elizabeth Warwick on 28th April 1805 in Birchanger, Essex. It seems quite strange that the two brothers should both have wives with the same name so I've ignored this information until now. As one explanation, I wondered if you should happen to know if Elizabeth was a widow when she married William?
Thanks, Kathy.
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KathyW
In my family, I have two brothers who both married women with the same name. They were definitely different women and one brother was about 10 years older than the other. As they lived in a fairly small area, I wondered if the women were cousins or something.
Liz
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Thanks Liz,
Yes, I did wonder if it was possible that the two Elizabeth Warwick's were related after Martin mentioned that he had several records of women of the same name born around the same time. In my Waterman tree I have at least 4 John Waterman's born around the same time and place and boy does it make things confusing!!
Regards, Kathy.
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Hi Kathy
As I mentioned earlier there were a few Elizabeth Warwicks who were of similar age that I have recorded. To date I have none that are from Birchanger, (that does not mean to say that there are not any ) and William Warwick and Mary Coban to date are not my direct line. The thing that bugs me about this one is that the banns were read at Farnham church in Essex. If Elizabeth was from Birchanger, why have the banns read at Farnham? Or were the banns for William? I have an Elizabeth Warwick who was born in Farnham ( the Warwick's were there from 1776 to early 1900) who age wise fits in with marrying William Waterman. I know on the 1841 and 51 census that she is recorded as being born in Birchanger, but her age fits Elizabeth from Farnham. As you know census birthplaces do not always ring true. I do not think that Elizabeth was a widow when she married William, she would have been about 21 years old. What do you think? And you thought it was confusing with four John Watermans.
Regards
Martin
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Hi Martin,
I wish I could remember where I got my information from, regarding Elizabeth's parents, as you have got me thinking now that it was a different Elizabeth Warwick who married William Waterman.
I have found in the past that marriages usually took place in the area where the wife was from so chances are she was from Farnham. I can only really confirm what I know about William Waterman and I do know that he was from Birchanger so it was not because of him why the banns were read in Farnham.
Also, I can tell you that the Elizabeth Warwick who married William wasn't a widow as for one she wasn't married as a Waterman (I really should think before typing!) and for another poor old Isaac didn't die until 1840. So, if Isaac did marry someone called Elizabeth Warwick then she would have been someone else.
Aren't family trees complicated!!
Best wishes, Kathy.
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Hello :)
I am researching a family tree on behalf of a good frined of mine, who's mother is a Waterman, related to the Watermans of Walthamstow.
So far, I have only been able to get back as far as William Waterman (b. 1808), and I would love to know if you have any more information or if my research can be of any use to you
I look forward to your reply
Louis Brzozka (on behalf of Yvette Denise Waterman)
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Hi Louis
Thank you for your contact. My only interest in the Waterman line is that I believe William Waterman married Elizabeth Warwick, which is the family I am researching. I only have William and his two daughters recorded and that is about the extent of my Watermans. Sorry I could not be of more help. Good luck with your research.
Regards
Martin 17
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The William Waterman I am looking for married a Harriett Wheeler
Thanks for the reply anyway, and good luck with your research!
Yours
Louis Brzozka
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Hi Loius,
Thanks for contacting me. Was it you who sent me a message on ancestry.com and rootsweb? If so then it saves me repeating myself!!
Our trees do connect although I am uncertain how at the moment. I am moving house in the next couple of weeks so all my paperwork has been packed away, sorry! Once I have settled in and unpacked I will be more than happy to share any information you're interested in though.
Have you ever been in contact with a lady called Sandra Siseman? She is more closely related to your branch of Waterman's and I can put you in touch with her if you like.
Best wishes for now, Kathy.
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I have not contacted her, and if you could provide contact details, I would very much like to contact here.
Thanks for your help
Louis Brzozka
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Hello
I am looking for my great grandfather's family. He was John Abram waterman b1853 in Bromley Bow Middlesex. His father was Charles born 1815/19 in Ingatestone. According to his marriage certificate his father was George and a witness was William Waterman who may have been a brother as in the 1851 Census a william Waterman was born in Ingatestone. John Abram moved to various places in Essex and died in Maldon in 1941. I have information on his 15 children. I wondered if you had any information on these Watermans. Happy to share my information
Thanks Waterman Essex
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Hi
Having a look on the tree I have, all of my Waterman's are from the Hatfield area north of London, so it doesnt seem to be immediately obvious that there is a link
If you find any more information a bit further back, we may be able to make a link!
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Hello
Thanks for reply. Hope I can get further back.There seem to be Watermans in different parts of Essex Hatfield Broad Oak ,High Easter, Springfield/Chelmsford as well as Walthamstow West Ham and Poplar so there must be a link somewhere! WatermanEssex
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hi i am researching the waterman line and have got ISAAC WATERMAN 1658 at HATFIELD BROAD OAK HERTS then it comes down through his son ISAAC 1687, ISAAC 1721, ROBERT 1750,
GEORGE 1779, WILLIAM 1806, JOHN 1829, to MARY WATERMAN 1844 who married a HENRY KING 1853, to ALBERT KING 1876,down to my nan FLORENCE KING 1899. hopefully this is the line that you are looking for, i have a lot of other watermans on my tree which is with Genes Reunited please get in touch if this is so
regards
lesley
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Hello Axeer
I think we have different branches of the Waterman family. I would be interested to look at your tree. Mine is on Ancestry if you wish to look Waterman Essex
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Hello Kathy W
My grand mother was a Waterman, her father was born in Bromley by Bow, but his father Charles came from Ingatestone Essex born about 1819. His father according to his marriage certificate was . George Waterman a baker. I wondered if you had any information on Charles or George. There is also a William Waterman born 1808 in Ingatestone who coud be Charles brother.If you have any information i would be grateful as I am stuck. Waterman Essex
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Hi,
I have Waterman's in my family and i am searching on them. I seem to have a few elusive members in my family. My question is my Great Grandad was William John Waterman but the surname Askew comes into it also but im not sure how. Do you have the surname Askew in your tree/ Some of mine are also from Poplar and areas around.
Joanne
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Hi,
I have Waterman's in my family and i am searching on them. I seem to have a few elusive members in my family. My question is my Great Grandad was William John Waterman but the surname Askew comes into it also but im not sure how. Do you have the surname Askew in your tree/ Some of mine are also from Poplar and areas around.
Joanne
That name does not appear in the line I am researching. All of mine are from Walthamstow from about 1800 onwards. What dates do you have for William John Waterman (birth, marriage etc)
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Hello Joanne
I have not got the name Askew in my tree. My Great grandfather was John Abraham Waterman born in Bromley By Bow in 1853 ,his father was Charles and his mother was Mary Ann Buck and they married in 1846. All the children were born in Bromley by Bow. Jane Amelia,Mary Ann, John, William Alfred.Katherine,Charles, Mary Ann and Emma and theylived in the Poplar area for some time
Regards Susan
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Hello Brozoka
I do not have William Waterman on my tree but the person whose message you quoted does.
The only mention I have of William Waterman is on the marriage certificate of Charles Page Waterman and Mary Ann Buck in 1846 at St Mary Stratford Bow and he was a witness. I have found a William Waterman born in Ingatestone Essex about 1808 is this your William? Charles Waterman was born in Ingatestone Essex as well so I wondered if they were related.
Regards Susan
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The William I have was born in Walthamstow. Before that, they seemed to come from around Hatfield, Essex
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Hi Susan,
Thankyou for letting me know.
Joanne
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Hi - I read your post and I thought I should send you a note to see if there is any connection with your Waterman roots. My 3d great grandfather was William Waterman from Hatfield Broad Oak. He married Mary Ann Burwood. I look forward to hearing back from you. Sincerely, C.
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Hello csquare55,
My great grandfather was John Abraham Waterman , born 1853 in Bromlely by Bow, his father was Charles Page Waterman, born 1818 in Ingatestone. He was the illegitimate son of Jane Waterman and James Fordham . Jane Waterman was born in Ingatestone in 1797, parents Joseph Waterman and Susanna, 4th great grand parents. I cannot find a marriage for them, but both are buried in Ingatestone.
I think his parents were Joseph Waterman and Rebecca of Hatfield Broad Oak, but cannot find a baptism for Joseph Waterman, 4th great grand parent to prove this. Joseph Rebecca Abraham and William seem to be family names that go back to Watermans of Hatfield Broad Oak, again not clear proof.
I am not sure where William Waterman and Mary Ann Burwood fit in the Waterman tree
My Waterman line lived in Bow, Poplar and on Isle of Dogs, but John Abram Waterman, eventually moved back to Essex, living in several places, and finally living in Maldon as police inspector.
Not sure how helpful this is for you
Waterman Essex