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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: wozzle on Saturday 16 June 07 21:39 BST (UK)
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does anyone know if this street ever existed in Balerno "ORR VALE"
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wozzle
Where is Balerno. Do you mean Balerno in Edinburgh ?
Ann
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yes it is balerno in edinburgh that i mean. My wife used to live there when she was very young and she seems to remember her aunties talking about it.
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Hi Wozzle
Orr Vale isn't appearing on any city maps in present or past. However I think is worth getting in touch with the City Council as they will hold all past records - planning department I think is best bet. I've done same with Renfrewshire Council because places have disappeared where my lot used to live and they found them for me.
Here is there email addy http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/internet
Good Luck!
Ann
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Ann
thanks for the information. I will be getting in touch with the Edinburgh City Council.
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Hi Wozzle,
I have searched the address on 1841 to 1901 census returns and no result. I have also checked old maps.co.uk, and can find no address. Can this be the name of one of the large houses in the area?
Sorry could not help.
Tom
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the place Orr Vale that my wife remembers is from about 1953-1958. She says that she was also told about a restaurant called Whinrig. I suppose Orr vale could have been spelt Horvale or similar. Does anybody remember the restaurant.
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Hi Wozzle,
Whinrig Restaurant,
7.9 miles from West Linton (Peeblesshire)
01314493848
Mansfield Road, Balerno, EH14 7JX
From the Evening News,
Eaterie swallowed up
A RESTAURANT near the Capital is set to be knocked down to make way for a house.
The former Whinrig restaurant on Mansfield Road in Balerno is to be demolished and a house and garage built in its place
after planning chiefs approved the plans, subject to a series of conditions.
This article: http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh.cfm?id=249092006
Last updated: 17-Feb-06 12:42 BST
Tom
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Hi wozzle,
http://www.buittle.org.uk/sailors.htm
THE Water of Orr is called the River Urr by modern geographers, but why they changed its spelling it would he difficult to say. It is also called the Winding Orr because of its numerous bends and twistings, and its valley is called "The Lovely Vale of Orr'," well known in song and story.
Follow the link for full article,
Tom
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Hi Wozzle
Orrvale, Balerno was a small street in the middle of the old village and my father told me that it was named after his Great Grandmother, Euphemia (Messer) Orr. In 1901 Euphemia was living in Smith's Buildings, Balerno. I assume that she was still there when the council decided to knock down the old houses and put up new housing. My GG Grandmother didn't want to leave her old house and stubbornly refused to move. I think her house was the last one standing in the row but, of course, the authorities won in the end and she had to move out. But the new street was named Orrvale in recognition of her last stand, so to speak. She died in Orrvale in 1924.
Rhoda
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In reply to the last post, Euphemia Orr (nee Messer) of Balerno, d. 1924 was also my GG grandmother. Her son, William Orr was my G Grandfather, and his son, David Orr my Grandfather. It would be great to get in touch, or get any more information about this family line.
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Hello Rowan43
I am the great granddaughter of Helen ORR (1869-1962), daughter of Euphemia (Messer) ORR.
I have a lot of bmd information about the ORRs. I can't put my email address on here and need to work out a way to contact you via your email address, off list. There is a way. I just don't know yet how to do it!
Rhoda
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There is a way. I just don't know yet how to do it!
Rhoda
Hi Rhoda
I believe you need to make 3 postings and then you should be able to send a PM (private message) by clicking on the small green scroll to the left of Rowan43's message.
justmej
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JustMeg
Thanks!
Rhoda
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Hi Rhoda,
It was great to get your quick response - I'm looking forward to making contact, but unfortunately for some reason, it won't allow me to view your personal message - says I've exceeded my personal limit of messages ??
Perhaps I, too, need to make 3 postings to receive your PM?
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Orrvale is not missing from Balerno but only 20 yards of the original remain.
It was demolished and part refurbished in 1972 to make way for new housing and a carpark in the centre of the village. If you want a photo pm me.
The original Smith's Buildings were at the top of the village above Orrvale.
Buzancy18
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Hi Rowan
You do need to have made a minimum of 2 (or 3, conflicting info on this on the boards) to use the PM system. Try it now that you have made 2 and see how you go :)
Monica
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Here it is.
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buzancy,
thank you for the photos
my wife says she remembers there being a chip shop where the tandoori house now is
she lived at the far end of of the street so unfortunately the house she lived in is no longer there
mick.