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Hi
Could anyone help me with a Richard Adcock Lab in Brinton Norfolk or nearby with daughter Mary. Many thanks
Mary
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Hi Mary
Have you an age for this Richard or the daughter Mary
Only one that I can see in Brinton is this family
Ann Adcock 33 born in county
Richard " 13 "
Mary " 10 "
Ann " 7 "
Abel " 3 "
living at Brinton, Holt, Norfolk
H0107/ 776 / 24
folio 4
page 3
ricky
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Hi
Not exactly, Mary was married to John Sands in 1850 at Brinton parish church, said to be "of full age" Richard shown as father. I wonder if the age could be wrong for him as everything else seems to fit. I'm also looking for the grooms parents Edward Perry or Percy Sands but that may possibly be Brinton if not Thursford or Blakeney. Thanks so much for your help.
Mary
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Hi Mary
It definatley says 13 on the census sheet, will have another look, unless the father was somewhere else at the time of the census
ricky
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Hi Mary
Is this John and Mary on the 1851 census
John Sands head mar 22 ag lab Norfolk Blakeney
Mary " wife mar 20 " Thursford
living at Brinton, Norfolk
H0107/ 1809
folio 862
page 2
If the 1841 is correct on the 1851 census
Ann Adcock head wid 43 pauper ag labs wid Norfolk Barney?
Abel " son u/m 13 ag lab " Brinton
living at Brinton, Norfolk
H0107/ 1809
folio 862
page 3
ricky
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Hi Molly
No sign of an Percy Sands on any Norfolk census who is old enough to be John's father. Who is Edward Perry?
ricky
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Hi
sorry the marriage cert is difficult to read it is either Edward Percy Sands or Edward Perry Sands more likely the former I should think.
Mary
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Hi Ricky,
Yes it's my John and Mary Sands on the 1851 and I'm pretty sure the other details fit as I've just found a marriage for Richard and Ann on IGI both originating from Barney. It doesn't say on the marriage cert for John and Mary that Richard was deceased but I guess he must have been. Thanks so much for your help.
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Hi Mary
He could have been working on a farm near by so might have been put there on the census sheet, but I carn't see one who could have been Mary's father, all of them are living with other people or to young
ricky
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Hi Ricky
No I think it is more likely from the !851 details you found that he was dead already and the details were not right on the marriage cert. Thank you so much for your help.
Mary
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Hi Mary
Your welcome, just sorry I carnt see Johns parents
ricky
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Hi, I am on a quest to find the burial plot of my great grandfather Abel Adcock, he died on the 13th of November 1914, death cert says living at Podmore, and informant was living at Bushy common, at Gressenhall, he was married to a Mary Ann Everritt on the 2nd January 1859 at the British School rooms at Holt, the 1911 census has him down as living at Podmore, his father was called Richard, but he died before the 1841 census, as it shows Abel living with his mother Ann a widow, his brother Richard and sister Mary.
Many thanx
Charmaine
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There was a Richard Adcock convicted of stealing from a shop in Lincoln on the 14th January 1841 age 37 he was sentenced to 7 years transportation to Tasmania on the vessel “the John Brewer” setting sail on the 1st December 1841 then transferred to “the Fortitude” and finally to the Waterloo who was drowned on the sailing vessel “the Waterloo” at the Cape of good hope on August 28th 1842. This would account for him missing from the 1841 census and yet no record of his death. Abel Adcock was my Great Grandfather.
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Looking through births early 1800's there is a Edward Perry Piper Sands and a Edmond Perry Piper Sands both listed as fathers can't find either anywhere else at the moments
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Hi Richard Adcock, Marys father died in 28/1/1840 aged 38, Ann her mother also known as Sarah Ann, died in 7/5/1889, Mary Sands registered her mothers death with her mark, they were living at Sharrington, Norfolk at the time.
Mary Ann Adcock married John Sands on the 1st September 1850 at Brinton, she was 19 years old.
At the 1881 census she was living in Sharrington with her husband John, and their 5 children Edward age 22, Elizabeth age 18, Joshua age 16, Celia age 9, John Johnson age 8. They all worked as farm/field workers. Other known children born are Harriet, Edmund John both christen along with Elizabeth and Joshua in 1864, Sarah 1855, Mary Ann and Charlotte Elizabeth 1854.
The Richard on the 1841 census, is Richard and Ann's eldest son, Abel is my great grandfather.
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Hi Richard Adcock, Marys father died in 28/1/1840 aged 38, Ann her mother also known as Sarah Ann, died in 7/5/1889, Mary Sands registered her mothers death with her mark, they were living at Sharrington, Norfolk at the time.
Mary Ann Adcock married John Sands on the 1st September 1850 at Brinton, she was 19 years old.
At the 1881 census she was living in Sharrington with her husband John, and their 5 children Edward age 22, Elizabeth age 18, Joshua age 16, Celia age 9, John Johnson age 8. They all worked as farm/field workers. Other known children born are Harriet, Edmund John both christen along with Elizabeth and Joshua in 1864, Sarah 1855, Mary Ann and Charlotte Elizabeth 1854.
The Richard on the 1841 census, is Richard and Ann's eldest son, Abel is my great grandfather.
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Thank you very belatedly for your help as I moved and changed my email address and have not logged in for a couple of years. I am a descendant of Sarah Sands who was my great grandmother and daughter of Mary Ann Adcock who I guess is my great great grandmother. I am very grateful as now I can fill in a few missing details
Regards Molly Mop
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Did you actually find a death record for Richard Adcock in 1840 as I can't see one on BMD? Many thanks
Molly Mop
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You may already have all of this;
MARRIAGE;
16 May 1826, St Mary, Barney, Norfolk
Richard ADCOCK, Bachelor
Ann CALEY, Spinster
Both of the Parish at time of Marriage
Witnesses,William Colman and Violet Colman
Notes, 3rd Witness - Gotts BIRD. Groom Bride 1st And 2nd Witnesses Sign With A Mark
(FreeREG)
BAPTISMS;
RICHARD Adcock, 18 March 1827, St Mary, Barney
ANN Adcock, 1 Dec 1833, St Andrew, Brinton
ROBERT Adcock, 22 July 1838, St Andrew, Brinton
Parents RICHARD/Ann, Fathers Occp Labourer
(FreeREG)
Familysearch.Org;
ABEL Adcock, 22 July 1838, Brinton, same Parents
Cant find Marys Baptism.
JOHN Sands Baptised 21 Dec 1828, St Nicholas, Blakeney
Parents EDMUND/MARY
Fathers Occp Baker
1841 in Brinton we have;
Edmund Sands 41, Dealer
Mary Sands 38
Elizabeth Sands 14
Lucy Sands 10
Martha Sands 9
Sarah Sands 6
Joshua Sands 3
Harriet Sands 1
Marriage FreeREG;
24 March 1824, Edmund SANDS to Mary JOHNSON
Trish :)
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I will have to go through all my records at some point, as for a while I got stuck and did employ Norwich Record Office to help me.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8SJ-GPX
found this online x
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this is my work on Richards father
JOHN ADCOCK
• BORN c 1765/1766/11th September 1768
• MARRIED ANN(E) DAWSON * at St Mary Church, Barney in 12th July 1791, her parish, John was from the Thursford parish. She died on the 18th October and was buried 22 October 1848, aged 92, buried at Thursford. Anne died of old age; James Thompson was present at her death and signed with his mark.
• DIED on the 24th October 1846, buried at Thursford aged 81of old age. Informant was Charlotte Holinary? present at death, registered on the 26th of October 1846.
• OCCUPATION Agricultural Labourer /Tile Maker**
• Residence 1841 census just states Thursford and that he was 74 years old, other residents with him are his wife Ann aged 84, and a James Adcock age 17, maybe a grandson.
Parents Father Richard Adcock c.1741 Mother Alice Worm c.1735***
Children
Alice Adcock b.23.12.1796 d.25.12.1796 aged two days, buried at Thursford.
John Adcock b.26.7.1799 d.19.12.1835 aged 37?
Matthew Adcock b.1801/2****
Richard Adcock b.12.9.1802 d.28.1.1840
* Ann(e) possibly died in 1848 aged 92, making her born around 1756, Ann(e) was of the parish of
Barney, making her 9 years older than John.
** Says on Ann’s death cert that she was the widow of John Adcock a tile maker.
***Possible parents, Richard Adcock c.1741/ d.2nd June 1823 aged 82 and Alice Worm b.9th September 1735/36 at Briningham, d. 20th April 1791 at Thursford age 55, Norfolk, they had a son John Adcock baptised on the 11th of September 1768 at St Andrews, Thursford. Richard and Alice married in 31st October 1758 at St Andrews, Thursford. Alice’s father’s name was James Worm and her mother’s was Mary.
**** Richard had a brother Samuel c.1739 who married Alice’s sister Martha Worm on the 17th July 1765 at St Andrew Thursford. Samuel possibly died 12th October 1815 age 76.
*****Richard and Matthew were baptised together on the 12th September 1802, not know if they were twins of if Matthew was born the year earlier.