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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: Lones on Wednesday 06 June 07 12:34 BST (UK)
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Hi Folks
I have a photo that I have been told is my GGrandmother Mary Gibbon (nee Lazenby). I have no reason to doubt this, except I have found a copy of the photo in an old family bible and it is beside a picture of her son-in-law. I am starting to wonder if it is maybe a picture of her daughter and not herself. I only have photo's of her daughter in later years, so was wondering if anyone could tell me when the younger picture might have been taken to check if it is her or her daughter
Mary Lazenby born 1823
or her daughter
Mary jane Gibbon born 1847
I will also attach a picture of her daughter Mary Jane in later life so you can check if you think they are the same person or mother and daughter
I would appreciate your opinions please ;D ;D
Cheers
Lones
Modified: sorry, way too big :P :P
modified: I forgot to say they are in Australia, so not sure if they were behind the fashions down here!! ;)
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Hi Lones :)
OK, well the first picture looks like it dates from the late 1860s or early 1870s (probably 1868-1872 or so). So if it was Mary born 1823, she would be at least 45 in the picture, which is definitely possible. However, she doesn't look very old, so could equally be Mary Jane born 1847 - she would be 21 in 1868. I'm tending towards the mother, but it's really hard to tell.
The lady in the other picture looks very much like the first lady - the ear does look quite different but being the opposite way round I can't say for sure :-\
Sorry, I don't think I've been much help! ;D
Cheers
Prue
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Hi Prue, you want I should flip great grandma over?
Here she is ;)
Lones
I had my generations wrong. Mary Lazenby is my gggrandmother and Mary Jane is my ggrandmother - Sorry about that, long day.... :-\
Modified - Cause the silly program wont let me reply?? >:( >:(
Gorgeous Caz, thank you. I admit, I have played with it too, it is a fabulous dress, but who did it belong to, that's the question???
Here is a comparison in the hopes Prue can decide for me..... nothing like passing the buck is there ? ;) ;)
Lones
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Wow, look at that dress!! :o :o Couldn't resist Lones! ;D ;D ;D
Caz
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Quick spruce of the 2nd one.
Caz
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Just my 2 cents Lones...I think the length of the nasal septum, and the corners of the mouth are different on the two women. Lovely pics, though, what a dress!!!
Cheers,
China
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I agree with China, they are two different women. Most definitely related though - look at those cheekbones! :o
Prue
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Two from me,
Jim
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Hi Prue and China
Thank you for your informed opinions, I appreciate it. I am happy I have pictures of the two ladies, and not just one ;D. I started to doubt when I realised it was funny the way the pictures were placed in the bible and the fact that Mary Jane's dad was loaded :-\. People with money usually trotted in and out of the photographers studios with great frequency and I have none of her as a child etc. I also noticed a resemblance between the two ladies and thought it might be an earlier picture of her. I am glad it's not as I like having a picture of both.
I agree China, I love the dress, no idea what happened to it, probably off somewhere with her husbands money, cause I never saw any of that either ;) ;)
Thank you Caz and Jim, lovely clean ups, I really appreciate your time and effort spent on them, they look great 8) 8)
Cheers all
Lones
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Hi Lones,
Just a quick clean ;D
(Think I overdid it a bit ::) )
Di
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Thank you Di, it's lovely ;D ;D
You all organised yet? How many sleeps left?? :) :)
Lones
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Hi Lones,
Sorry - my mind wasn't quite "with it" when I tried your pic ::)
Unorganised, unpacked, utter bedlam and 64 hrs to go 8)
Di
:D
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Don't you apologise, it's lovely, you don't know how to do anything else, I have told you that before. I am really happy with it. SO stop worrying and get back to the bedlam!! ;D ;D
Have a great time, I want to hear all about it when you get back. How long are you going for by the way?
64 hours, how exciting!!!!!!
Cheers
Lones
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Hi Lones
I found a Ruddock married to my distant Glasper's from Stokesley, Durham and have a Thomas Ruddock Glasper.
regards Gareth
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Hey Gareth ;D
Who was the Ruddock, I think I am related to all the Ruddocks from Durham, and Thomas is a Ruddock name. Could be a connection, tell me more!!
Lones 8)
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Hi
We have a mary jane lazenby b. 1853 (coates)
in Atwick or Skirlaugh
Same one?
We are in Canada.....
Don Lazenby
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Hi Don :)
Mine was born in 1823 in Yorkshire, but she had a few brothers who could have named their daughters after their sister, do you have a father for your Mary Jane? Let me know, we could have a link 8)
Cheers
Lones
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Mary Jane's father was a Thomas Coates, and he was born about 1822-24. His father was Robert.
Mary Jane married a Henry Lazenby (1848)
Henry's father was Cross Lazenby (1818)
They all lived in East Yorkshire: Harpham, Beeford, Atwick,
Skirlaugh,
Funny that you were online...It's 6am here...CLazenby
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Hi again ;D
Yes I am online, it is 8:245pm here, I am in Australia.. :D
I do not have a Cross Lazenby in my line that I am aware of, unless he was a cousin or it is a nick name... My Lazenby's are from Middleton in Yorkshire, I have no idea if that is anywhere near the towns you mentioned, do you?
Lones
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THere are lots of Middletons.
3 in W Yorkshire and 1 in N Yorkshire
Middleton: 20 miles west of Leeds,
Middleton: 20 miles south of Middlesbrough
My Lazenbys moved to the Middlesbrough area about 1868 I think...they lived in Eston, Grangetown, Stockton,
Middlesbrough, Lazenby, etc....maybe yours are connected there?
Where do you live?
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Middleton Tyas, does that help? I need English geography lessons, obviously... I have my Lazenby's in Middleton Tyas back to 1735. I don't know where they were before that?
I am in Eastern Australia, in Central Victoria.
Cheers
Lones
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Middleton tyas...appears to be about 20 miles west of
the Middlesbrough area where My Lazenbys lived in 1870s
I used the site: curiousfox.org.uk (places and people)
and found some Lazenby's there looking for other Lazenbys:
"searching for Ellen Lazenby who married Francis Atkinson, they had a son, Francis born in 1845 they lived in Middleton Tyas."
Maybe they are related to you?
We sure are talking "long distance"...Australia ..Canada
Carolyn (Don's wife)
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Hi Carolyn
Yep, a long distance. That is what is so great about Rootschat, you get to meet people from everywhere.. I love it.
I checked my tree, no Ellen's so far, but I will keep that site and check it out, thank you for that. I am beginning to think that Lazenby might be a very common name in Yorkshire, it is very uncommon over here. My Nanna was Alice Lazenby Gibbon, so the family name was still being used in 1885 when she was born here in Australia.
Lones
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Lazenbys are NOT so commom in Canada.
Our line emigrated from Middlesbrough, England in 1910
We have traced back only to about 1780...a Samuel Lazenby...Yorkshire
It's been interesting talking with you...Carolyn
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It has been interesting talking to you too Carolyn :).
You never know we might find a connection in the future and we can talk again. I will keep you in mind and let you know if I find anything that links to the Lazenby's you have mentioned. I would be obliged if you would do the same with my lot. There could be a common ground somewhere..
Cheers
Lones ;D
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We are keen to learn more about Cross Lazenby, lived Beeford and Harpham, East Yorkshire. We know he was a lay preacher and we have visited the area and seen the probable chapel he preached in. His son, Samuel, moved to London. Looking for an obituary.
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Mary Jane's father was a Thomas Coates, and he was born about 1822-24. His father was Robert.
Mary Jane married a Henry Lazenby (1848)
Henry's father was Cross Lazenby (1818)
They all lived in East Yorkshire: Harpham, Beeford, Atwick,
Skirlaugh,
Funny that you were online...It's 6am here...CLazenby