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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: Jeffrey on Tuesday 05 June 07 13:32 BST (UK)
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Can any one help me with a place called Slosh. I think it was a farm definetely in the Parish of Kirkland and could be near Blencarn in Cumberland.
It is mentioned in an ancestors will in 1740. It is not the Slosh near Appleby Westmorland.
Thanks
Judy
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Hi Judy
Could it be Flosh?
Flosh is just on the outskirts of Kirkland heading west on the road towards Skirwith.
I found it on Get-a-map. Search for Kirkland (3rd one listed) then zoom in
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/
Also on Old Maps. Search for Flosh. then select Flosh, Kirkland, Penrith, then select the 1867 Cumberland map centre bottom and zoom in.
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Sitheil
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Hi Sitheil,
Thanks very much for that suggestion.
I have the name on a Will and Letters of Administration. It was given as 'Slosh' by the records Office and it certainly looks like Slosh. However that was in 1740 & 1744 so S's & F's were always being mixed up and the spelling of names so it is a good suggestion. Being so close to Kirkland it is a definite possibility.
If anyone else has any ideas or knows anything about this I would be grateful
Thank you
Judy
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Just Googled Flosh. Guess what I found that I had asked about Richardson's from Kirkland in another posting. I had a reply about Wills and they were named on it from FLOSH.
When I was up there the other weekend I must have gone straight past it!
Thank you for your help
Judy
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Hello, I don’t know if you’re still monitoring this or even still interested in Flosh? I live at Flosh, just outside Kirkland and although I did some research shortly after we came here I haven’t done anything recently. I’d be interested to know what your family will shows with regard to Flosh. I have discovered that a Dobson family lived here later in the 18th century although I’ve not been able to prove any connection to my Dobson’s. All the dates stones in the property have the surname initial D and I had wondered if the Dobsons had been here a long time. Certainly the family appear to have been based at a nearby farm called skeleto all the dates stones in the property have the surname initial D and I had wondered if the Dobsons had been here a long time. Certainly the family appear to have been based as a nearby farm called Skelling. I had wondered if they had spread out from there. However if your Richardsons owned or were long term tenants of the property earlier in the 18 century then that probably disproves my theory. I hope your researches have been successful. Unfortunately for me I have an ancestor, Richard Dobson who although I know he married at Morland in 1785 and was a husband man of Crackenthorpe, (near Appleby) at the time, seems impossible to trace further back. There are several Dobson families in the area at the time but none who have a son Richard, in the late 1750s, who lived to adulthood. Richard died at Hag Gap, Brough in Aug 1815 aged 56, although of course the age may be an approximation. Regards, Duncan Dobson
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That is so interesting. Yes still monitoring & interested in anything about it. If you are researching the farm then you may like various wills/administrations that I have. I would be interested in anything you have found out too.
Also looking at my records there is a Robert Cannon from Flosh buried in 1698. I shall have to look further and see if there are any more references to it. They will all be fairly early if I have.
I don't know if I can private message you but will try then you can contact me privately. However I don't think you can use the private messaging system until you have posted 2 or maybe 3 posts - it is designed to stop 'spam'.
Best Wishes,
Judy
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Hello
I am descended from RICHARDSON = CANNON from Kirkland/Blencarn.
But no known connection to Flosh.
Let me know if this could tie in with your tree and I will dig out by info.
Cheers
David HUDDART
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Hi David,
Can you tell me a little more about your Richardson = Cannon. Their names and dates and anything else you may have then I can look more into my tree and see if they are connected.
Thanks.
Judy
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Hello Judy
John RICHARDSON married 1779 Ann CANNON at Kirkland
Regards
Dave
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Hello Judy, I no longer live at Flosh, we sold it in Nov 2021. If you have any wills or details from the area, mentioning the surname Dobson, I’d be very interested in hearing about them.
Many thanks,
Duncan
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Hi Duncan,
Can't see any Dobson's mentioned but will keep an eye out for them.
Judy
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Thankyou Judy, a Thomas Dobson lived at Flosh in the later 18th century. His gravestone is in Kirkland churchyard. His grave has leaned forward over the years and as it’s a brass plate, set into the stone, it’s been protected and is still easy to read. I’m pretty sure I found his will and that he had daughters. I may have the research about or it may still be in storage. If I find it I’ll let you know in case the daughters married into any families that you’re interested in. Duncan
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Yes please
Judy
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Two snapshots of Flosh.
Saturday 16 May 1818: Carlisle Patriot
TO BE SOLD, in PUBLIC AUCTION, at the Dwelling-house of William Bowman, known by the sign of the LION and LAMB, in PENRITH, in the County of Cumberland, on TUESDAY, the 26th Day of MAY, 1816, at Three o'clock in the Afternoon:-a desirable MESSUAGE and TENEMENT, called and known by the name of FLOSH, in the Parish of KIRKLAND, in the said County; consisting of a commodious Dwelling-house, and Out-buildings, and several Closes and Parcels of Land, containing together by estimation, 36A 1R 3P late in the occupation of Mr. ISAAC SLACK, and another.
The Premises are holden under William CRACKENTHORPE, Esq. as Parcel of his Manor of Ousby and Bank, by payment of the ancient yearly Fine certain Rent of £1, and the yearly Customary Rent of 6s. and other Duties and Services.
The Premises are entitled to a Right of Common upon the extensive Wastes adjoining.
The Purchaser may enter into immediate possession upon giving Security for the Purchase Money; and further particulars may be had by applying to Messrs. GRAVE & BLEAYMIRE, Solicitors, Penrith.
N. B. – The Purchaser may be accommodated with the greatest part of the Purchase Money on Mortgage; and in case the Estate is not sold, it will be let for the Term of One Year.
In the tithe valuation of 1850 Flosh is clearly indicated on the tithe map, although not named:
landowner: Thomas Dixon
occupier: James Dixon
Homestead
The surrounding land with same landowner/occupier a total of 17 acres. [Thomas Dixon also owns and occupies 15 acres with a homestead in the village of Skirwith]
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Thank you for that info
Judy
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Two snapshots of Flosh.
Saturday 16 May 1818: Carlisle Patriot
In the tithe valuation of 1850 Flosh is clearly indicated on the tithe map, although not named:
landowner: Thomas Dixon
occupier: James Dixon
Homestead
The surrounding land with same landowner/occupier a total of 17 acres. [Thomas Dixon also owns and occupies 15 acres with a homestead in the village of Skirwith]
I have the Tithe map but finding it difficult to find which is Flosh Have you a Number on the map which is it you can tell me please
Judy
Just looked again - is it 279
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Yes, #279. Using thegenealogist.co.uk to access the tithe maps it is possible to view as an overlay with an old OS map. The position and shape of the building are the same and the surrounding field boundaries also match perfectly.
ADDED: the field boundaries to the north (ie just across the road) are well-aligned on the modern satellite image too.