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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: cwm on Monday 04 June 07 11:50 BST (UK)
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Hi all, when my g, grandmother married she gave her fathers name as William Griffiths (Deceased). occupation:- Ostler. i know that an ostler takes care of horses but where would he be employed in 1860/80, ,a pub,hotel, underground?Also, what did the job entail in 1860/80? Thanks a lot, cwm
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He was most likely to have been employed in a coaching Inn where he would as you say look after the horses, in particular the change of horses for the coaches but also customers horses.
To determine any more you need to find out where he was living in the census. Many Ostlers in Inns actually lived in the Inn Yard so that they were available if needed 24 hours a day. The census entry may also give you a better description of where he was actually employed and so better define his job.
He was unlikely to be employed in a public house which was distinctly different from an Inn in those days.
David
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An Ostler; aka horseboy, nagman; was a stableman who fed watered and stalled customers horses in hotel stables, and had the custody of vehicles left temporarily in the stable yard or coach house. He collected the fees for stabling horses or vehicles, and was often employed part time in driving the hotel omnibus to and from the station. Ostlers, aka horsekeeper, were also employed by collieries to attend to the feeding and grooming of horses and ponies above and below ground.
Stan
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Thanks David and Stan for your info' , It was welcome and v helpful.
regards, cwm
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hi all, I've just found this thread while trying to find out more
about the occupation of ostler and what they did.
it was listed as the job of my g.g. grandfather on his son's marriage cert,
his address was great george street liverpool,I checked the census
by street name and found a place a few doors down called Hansons temperance hotel,
do you think he could have worked there and has anyone seen any links to
any information about this place or possibly pictures of the building.
regards.anne
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Hi Anne,
What date census?
Stan
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Hi Stan, I think it was the 1891 census,the hotel was at number 36
great george street liverpool,the address given on my g. grandfathers
marriage cert' was 32a.
anne
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Hi All - silly question time (this is my first post though!) would an 'Astler' be the same as an 'Ostler'? Or if not, does anybody know what the occupation would have been? The reason I ask is because this is shown as the occupation for an ancestor on the 1871 census and when I saw this thread I though I would ask the question.
Many thanks.
Sue
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hi sue,a big welcome to rootschat :) my reply could turn out
to be a bit daft but when I looked for the definition of astler I
found it was an old english word for ashler.the link below is what I found next.
if you go to the link below and scroll down the page you will
see where that led.like I said this could be totally daft,maybe
the word you have could have been ostler after all?
anne
http://www.answers.com/topic/ashlar
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Hi All - silly question time (this is my first post though!) would an 'Astler' be the same as an 'Ostler'? Or if not, does anybody know what the occupation would have been? The reason I ask is because this is shown as the occupation for an ancestor on the 1871 census and when I saw this thread I though I would ask the question.
Many thanks.
Sue
Hi Sue,
In my opinion it most likely to be Ostler :) Astler is a square hewn stone for building purposes or for pavement, a variation of Ashlar, and not an occupation.
Stan
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hello cwm, my grandfather was an ostler at deep navigation colliery in treharris, he retired abt 1955, he looked after the horses underground, i seem to remember the horses only came up the pit to retire, injured and in the summer holidays,they used to put a blindfold on them as they were not used to daylight. my other grandfather was a shoeing smith there. pob hwyl john
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Hi Anne and Stan.
Thank you for your replies. A quite few of my ancestors worked as grooms at Chapel Brampton but this one is down as living in St Giles, Northampton which threw me a bit - probably because I was thinking it was as built up then as it is now!
Thanks again.
Sue