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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: jim.s on Thursday 31 May 07 18:19 BST (UK)
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A Iron sailing ship called the "John Garrow" was built in 1840 at the
Aberdeen shipyard of John Ronalds & John Coutts.
I would like any information on the man John Garrow, too have a ship
named after oneself, he must have been well known in Aberdeen.
Port of registry: Liverpool
in 1849/50 she sailed from Liverpool to New Orleans.
Any information would be welcome.
Kind Regards
Jim.S
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Hi Jim,
The ship may have been called after a Liverpool ship owner of that name.
A Google search produced the following information which you may already have:
JOHN GARROW
Rigging: iron Ship
Master: Captain Thomson
Tonnage: 685 using old measurements and 849 using new measurements
Construction: 1840 in Aberdeen; vessel lengthed in 1842
Owners: Cannon and Co.
Voyage: sailed from Liverpool, bound for New Orleans
Hope this helps.
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The Times, Thursday, Apr 02, 1840; pg. 6; Issue 17321; col F
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"The John Garrow iron ship, Captain J. Wilson, an iron vessel of 895 tones, calculated to carry 40 keels of coals, arrived in the river Tyne on Friday last. When she entered the narrows she was drawing ten feet of water. Since her arrival she has continued to excite much curiosity ; part of her standing rigging is made of wife, and except her top and decks she is exclusively made of iron. Captain Wilson has ordered that parties visiting her shall pay 1s. each, which will be given to the Shipwreck Society. She is named after the principal in the firm in Liverpool who are her owners. The John Garrow will load here immediately for Bombay. It is understood she sailed well during her passage from Aberdeen, and every day comes up to the most sanguine expectation that was formed of her capabilities - Newcastle Chronicle."
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Thank you Isles for the quick reply,
yes I have that information off Google.
Thank you Dave Francis
your account from the Times is better than the Newcastle Journal
this week, that where I found the name.
I shall try to find any information about him: BMD
A John Garrow Esquire of Liverpool is in the will of my GGGG/father
he could be his brother-in-law,in 1816 a John Garrow was a
Thread Manufacturer in Aberdeen,he was a wittnes at his sister's
wedding to my GGGG/father James Sheriffs in Aberdeen.
Many thanks again to both of you. Jim.S
ps If anyone out there has any info on John Garrow of Liverpool or
Cannon & Co the owners, please let me know. J.S
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Hello,
And from www.aberdeenships.com
" JOHN GARROW
Construction IRON
Type SHIP
Date 1840
Description Built at Aberdeen by John Vernon & Sons, Aberdeen in 1840.
Registered in Liverpool.
Rigged with standing bowsprit, square stemmed, no galleries and male figurehead. Owned by John Anderson, William Garrow, Alexander Smith and Thomas Irvine, all of Liverpool, trading as Anderson, Garrow & Co.
1840 Master Frederick Wilson. Owned by Cannon & Co, Liverpool and sailing Aberdeen to New Orleans.
1841 to 1844 - Anderson, Master and sailing Aberdeen to Bombay
1847 to 1849 - Thomson, Master and sailing London to New Orleans
1847 listed in New Orleans Picayune newspaper as follows:
'John Garrow, Ship, British. Capt. Thomson, Liverpool, Sept 27- New Orleans, Nov 15'.
1851 to 1853 - M Hamilton, Master
1856 - J Dyer, Master, Owned by J Robinson
7th December 1856 abandoned at sea
Shipbuilder John Vernon
Dimensions length 130' 1" x breadth 30' x depth 19' 6"
555tons
© 2007 Aberdeen City Council
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Thank you Piglet01 for the info on the John Garrow, there is the
story of the sinking & rescue of the people on board. on website
type in Ship John Garrow in web Search.
look for theoldentimes.com webpage & click on
Regards Jim.S.
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Looking into my family history, I've just discovered that my great great grandfather was John Anderson and my great great grandmother was Ann Garrow. John was the son of John Anderson and Ann was the daughter of William Garrow, both from Aberdeen, who were living in Bootle-cum-Linacre in Liverpool in 1841. Their company, Anderson, Garrow and Co., owned the ship John Garrow, possibly named after William's father. Perhaps they didn't own it for very long.
By 1861 William Garrow was listed as a master cooper, living in West Derby, Liverpool. The John Garrow sank in December 1856, and the family after that was less prosperous.
It's been very interesting seeing the information you've gathered, and there's plenty more information out there.
Karenjw5
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Hello Karenjw5 This is a blast from the past.
I do have some Information on the Garrow family, I will make it short in case you already have
it on your family tree. William Garrow married Ann Irvine -17 July 1826
William parents -- John Garrow & Helen Henry add 8 Garrow's Court Trinity St Aberdeen
John's parents John Garrow & Isobel Cruickshank ? ( I'm not to sure on the mother)
from the 1853 Liverpool Directory:- Garrow John Silk Merchant.(Sidney & C) 58 Church St
Garrow William, Gentlemen, 7 Richmond Vale. Bootle.
Have you come across Isabel Garrow & James Shirreff or what ever the spelling, she is John's sister , I have more paper work ok. hope to hear from you.
Regards Jim.S
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Thank you! It's good to be able to search further back now. John Anderson and William Garrow belonged to the Spalding Club in Aberdeen. William Garrow was a member of the Society of Advocates and had an MA from Marischal College. I'd like to go to Aberdeen and find out more!
Karenjw
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Hi Karen,
Hopefully you'll get to visit Aberdeen, you'd particularly enjoy the maritime museum and ANESFHS.
I didn't realise Garrow was a northeast name but there are quite a few Garrow surname charts http://www.anesfhs.org.uk/downloads/ancchartindex.zip and quite a few burial MI http://www.anesfhs.org.uk/databank/miindex/miindex.php