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Title: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: brynymor on Thursday 24 May 07 19:58 BST (UK)
Tracing my side of the Shropshire Birch's which seems to go back to John Birch (b c1813) from Shrawardine (or Baschurch) married (Mar 1838) to Emma Edwards (b 1809) from Shrawardine. This was a 2nd marriage for Emma as she brought at least two children (Thomas and William) into the marriage.

I can go back on her side another 3 generations but I'm stuck with John Birch and cannot find any info online either through ancestry.co.uk or IGI, and would dearly like to jump back into the previous century with the paternal line.

We live in S Wales so on the ground hunting is not so easy (!). Any help would be appreciated

Regards
John
Title: Re: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 07 June 07 15:11 BST (UK)
Hello

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I'm stuck with John Birch and cannot find any info
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married (Mar 1838) to Emma Edwards

Have you got the marriage certificate?  If you haven't, this should help you ;)

March Quarter 1838
John Birth
Emma Edwards
District: Atcham
Vol: 18
Page: 11

From FreeBMD (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/)

You can buy a copy from here. (http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/)

Once you know John's father's name then that should really help you work backwards.
Title: Re: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: vonne on Saturday 01 February 14 15:31 GMT (UK)
Hi ,I have seen John and Emma marriage certificate and he says his father is John birch --a horse Jockey  ???. He gives the  address --  Broomfields .

My great x2 grandfather Richard Birch and his family  lived at Broomfield  Cottage near to Fitz from at least 1832 --1900;s

Richard was baptized at Baschurch in 1809 his parents were John and Mary .in 1813 at Baschurch John ans Sarah baptized John ( who later married Emma ) I think that  my Richard was John (1813 ) brother
Its a difficult branch to follow because there are several John and Richard Birch in a small rural area .Please contact me if you want further details
Title: Re: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: Medwar58 on Monday 03 February 14 15:08 GMT (UK)
John
I am a direct descendant of Emma Birch and upon reading your posting, I was hoping you may be willing to share her ancestors that go back a further 3 generations. I've been searching for a while and have got stuck going further back with her. I know she had an illegitimate son called James Edwards, but I've never been able to trace his father too.

Best wishes
Mike Edwards
Title: Re: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: vonne on Tuesday 04 February 14 09:56 GMT (UK)
Hi ,It is the Birch line that I have been  looking at .I am stuck with John Birch the Horse jockey ?
Traveling over to the archives soon so may get a break through !
Title: Re: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: Mandy Birch on Sunday 29 June 14 22:51 BST (UK)
Hi Vonne. I am also a direct descendant of John Birch & Emma Edwards. My maiden name was Birch. Their son Henry is my GGGrandfather. Please get in touch if you need to compare research. I'd love to know if you've found anything more!  ;D
Title: Re: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: vonne on Tuesday 22 July 14 22:03 BST (UK)
Hi ,Sorry for the delay in replying .I have been away on holidays.
 I have not yet got over to the archives  so have progressed no further .
Do you know any details about John " the horse jockey ".
I have some photos of the cottage at Broomfields - My great great  grandfather Richard lived there until he died.His may daughter lived there till the 1930 Its been standing empty for many years.I do not know why ??
Title: Re: Tracing John Birch from Shrawardine/Baschurch
Post by: Mandy Birch on Wednesday 23 July 14 08:55 BST (UK)
No Vonne i haven't got any further with John Birch the horse jockey. I know as much as you do about him, probably less! I have everything on his son John & Daughter in Law Emma Edwards that there is to know i think....from birth, marriage, every census, and burial entries. But i can't find a single thing on John Senior!
I do know John junior was listed as living at Broomfields in 1838 on his marriage cert - but of course you already know that! I know nothing about this being the 2nd marriage of Emma tho? I know James was born in 1834 before she married John Birch, but her maiden name was Edwards as listed on their marriage certificate, so what makes you think she was married before?
I'd love to see your photos of the cottage if at all possible, as i only live 10 miles down the road so would love to go have a look sometime?  :)