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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: big g on Wednesday 23 May 07 13:05 BST (UK)
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I am looking for birth details for Hugh Lester born c 1890 Lehigh, Webster County, Iowa. son of Jonathon and Martha Lester, both born Lancashire, England.
Hugh had an elder sister born c 1888 'in American waters'!
Would like to find details of this family's arrival in America 1888/1889, also their departure from America.
I have found the family back in England on the British 1891 census.
???
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http://www.idph.state.ia.us/eh/vital_records_info.asp - info on Iowa birth certificates.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~iawebste/webgenso.htm - or try the Webster County Genealogical Society.
Can't spot the family on castlegarden.org, perhaps you could try using alternative spellings.
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I can't see them either on Castle Garden on any ship but you know I'd bet a sum of money they were on the Adriatic since that is the name given to Hugh's sister. Do you have any idea what the initials A. O. stood for in her name? You don't happen to know a more exact date of birth for her? The Adriatic was on a regular run to NY during this time frame. All the voyages between 1887 and 1889 are found microfilmed as follow below but I think Castle Garden has all of them indexed online. Were there any Lester family members in the US or Iowa when they arrived? Oddly enough there is an arrival of a Miss A.O. Lester age 20 in about 1887 who was a US citizen. The early passenger lists unfortunately don't give final destinations.
1 M237 503 54 1887 January 17 305 Adriatic Liverpool, England 1027371
2 M237 503 ? 1887 February 14 718 Adriatic ? 1027371
3 M237 504 258 1887 March 12 413 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027372
4 M237 505 376 1887 April 9 459 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027373
5 M237 506 522 1887 May 7 472 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027374
6 M237 507 670 1887 June 4 903 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027375
7 M237 509 823 1887 July 2 115 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027377
8 M237 509 949 1887 July 30 941 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027377
9 M237 510 1085 1887 August 27 893 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027378
10 M237 512 1230 1887 September 23 174 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027380
11 M237 513 1364 1887 October 21 425 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027381
12 M237 514 1487 1887 November 19 278 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027382
13 M237 514 1603 1887 December 18 959 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027382
14 M237 515 61 1888 January 16 295 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027751
15 M237 515 166 1888 February 11 733 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027751
16 M237 518 528 1888 April 28 635 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027754
17 M237 520 677 1888 May 25 538 Adriatic Liverpool, England 1027756
18 M237 522 844 1888 June 23 129 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027758
19 M237 523 988 1888 July 21 243 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027759
20 M237 524 1130 1888 August 18 208 Adriatic Liverpool, England 1027760
21 M237 525 1255 1888 September 14 213 Adriatic Liverpool, England 1027761
22 M237 526 1402 1888 October 13 214 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027762
23 M237 527 1531 1888 November 12 69 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027763
24 M237 528 1638 1888 December 8 183 Adriatic Liverpool, England 1027764
25 M237 529 10 1889 January 5 77 Adriatic Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England 1027765
At this point very much still a mystery. A pity too that the US 1890 census was destroyed and there are no emgration records for the US...only incoming ones.
Best wishes
Jean
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Jorose and Jean,
Thanks to you both for the information - much appreciated.
Will follow up the leads.
Glenys
;) ;)
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Jorose - I have now sent emails to the two addresses you gave.
Jean - re people entering America - do you have website details where I can perhaps trace this Lester family?
I have searched the castlegarden site using variations of the surname etc. without success :'(
Glenys
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Hi Glennys
I wish I did! The reasons why I asked further questions on details of Hugh's sister is to try and pinpoint what month and year they likely arrived. Then to confirm if all the passenger lists for the Adriactic are extant and indexed for this time frame. It's possible the one you want is missing..or perhaps can be found elsewhere through NARA but not online at Castle Garden or Ancestry yet.... but I've never undertaken that level of immigration research. I believe you can request research from NARA but I believe you have to know quite a few details first. Not sure exactly how this process might work. I think also that some passenger films might be available through your FHC or certainly must be held at SLC but again....not familiar with the process. Perhaps someone else will come to your assistance with more info!
Best wishes
Jean
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Do you have any idea what the initials A. O. stood for in her name?
Presumably she is the 25 yr old spinster/servant with the splendid name of Adriatic Atlantic Ocean LESTER who sailed from Liverpool to New York on the Celtic, arriving on 30 March 1913. Her next of kin was named as "Mother: Martha Lester, 30 Decher (?) St, Sutton St. Helens, Lancs". Final destination was Bridgeport, Conn, where she was joining her brother Jno. Lester of 79 Orange (or Grange?) St, Bridgeport. Her birthplace was given as "Born on board SS Adriatic". She said she was previously in the US in 1897 in Webster.
Edited to add: the manifest for this voyage can be viewed free at www.ellisisland.org
Anna
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Anna....positively brilliant ;D What a name!!
Best wishes
Jean
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Following on from the above, there is also an outward passenger list for the same voyage at www.findmypast.com - credits required to view it. It will be different from the passenger manifest and will most likely contain less detail, though there may be information on there which does not appear on the manifest.
She's indexed here as Adrentic A.O. Lester.
Anna
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Anna....positively brilliant ;D What a name!!
Best wishes
Jean
Tremendous, isn't it, Jean? No chance of her forgetting where she was born :D
Anna
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Anna,
Brilliant, wonderful,fantastic.................. :) :) :) :) :)
I am so delighted, and when I email the friend for whom I am doing this research, he will be too!!!!!!
I had been searching Ellisisland earlier but hadn't found anything - a trip to the opticians is needed I think.
I hope to get replies to the two emails I sent after getting details from Jorose.
From a very happy bunny.
:) ;) :)
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Glad to be of help :)
Oddly, although Adriatic claims to be a spinster and uses the surname Lester in those 1913 records, she appears to have been a young bride several years earlier:
Marriage
Adriatic Atlantic O. Lester
and either
John Cross
or
Philip Orritt
Dec 1905 Prescot, Lancs 8b 1131
Anna
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Anna,
Mystery - wonder what happened there.
Thanks for this info, is really is much appreciated.
Even though I don't as yet have replies from the two U.S.A. sites I emailed, all this other information is fantastic.
Many thanks to you Anna.
Glenys
:)
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Hi
I'm wondering if the family you are searching for is my family because we have been doing our family tree and my dads mum was named Adriatic Lester born 1919 to a Hugh Lester who was born in the US and his daughter was named after his sister who was born on the Adriatic boat crossing to the States.
I would look forward to hearing from you :)