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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: AmisUK on Monday 21 May 07 11:18 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me a little bit about Brayton Isolation Hospital, which I believe is/was near Selby.
According to my father my grandmother was a Nursing Auxiliary there during the second world war, and she lived in Selby.
The only other details I have from my father is that it was a TB hospital.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Paul
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i think they might have some records on the a2a site (www.a2a.org.UK)
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hi paul
i havnt heard of brayton hospital but i do know of gateforth hospital which is close to selby. gateforth hospital was a tb hospital, and an isolation hospital during the war it's probably this hospital your father can remember
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it has been redevolped as far as i can see, i put Brayton Isolation Hospital in the google search bar and it came up with a list of planning applications for the Harrogate area.
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Thanks Toni* & Perth Tiger, I can only assume so far that Toni* is correct regarding the fate of the hospital, as my father is sure of the name.
I wonder if there is a register of WWII Nursing Auxiliaries.
Regards
Paul
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if its the brayton near selby, it is 1 mile from selby 3 from gateforth and about 30 from harrogate
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does it come under Harrogate Council? which would explain why it was listed on their planning application proposal.
i don't think WW2 records are readily available you can apply for them however giving your reasons for requesting them and i think the form has to be signed by the next of kin (so i was told)
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I think it must be the one near to Selby as my grandmother was living in Powell Street, Selby at the time (the family home), and my great-grandfather was working at the Oil & Cake Mills, Selby (Taken from the wedding certificate in 1943 for my grandparents).
Where would you start, with regards to applying for information/records, as a Nursing Auxiliary she was not in military service.
Regards
Paul
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brayton comes under selby council. but i think they both come under north yorkshire county. what did you find toni? i cant find anything about it. paul have you looked on old maps for it
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i googles Brayton Isolation Hospital on uk pages only and this came up:
A2A - Access to Archives | Catalogues | New This Month, February 2003... Leicester and Rutland Record Office: Plans of Blaby Isolation Hospital ... Leeds: Burn, Brayton, survey and rental, 1568 (photocopy) [20th century] West ...
and also this:
[PDF] PAGE 1 HARROGATE BOROUGH COUNCIL VALID APPLICATIONS RECEIVED WEEK ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
c/o P.Wood 2 Holmefield Court Brayton Selby YO8. 9DP. CONSULTEES & DATE SENT:. Parish Council ... Conversion of former isolation hospital to form 1 ...
i clicked on the link for the planning application and it is on page 30
conversion of former isolation hospital to form 1 dwelling and detached triple garage.
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i had a look toni, i think they are 2 diff applications. if you read them both they are on diff pages one is in spofforth ward and the other in claro ward. i think they just showed up on google as been in the same document. i lived and worked around brayton for years and i have never heard of it. i do have a relative who was a patient in gateforth hospital when he had tb back in 1948
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oh !
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lol toni i aint sure im right yet on one thread i talked for ages about gateforth and they wanted to know about garforth
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maybe a map of the area in the 40-50's would solve the question.
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i had a look on old maps abt 1851 there was nothing there. the selby library would be my first port of call
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this may be silly but any chance it was a temporary site set up for war casualties and then disappeared at the end of the war? (you know like a tent!)
:D
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Brayton Barff
Brayton Barff is the high point of the area – standing some 150 feet above sea level. It was the site of a beacon in 1803 when we were threatened with invasion by Napoleon.
In May 1935, to celebrate King George V's Silver Jubilee, a Bonfire on the Barff as part of the celebrations. In both World Wars much use was made of the various Camps on the Barff and they housed Prisioners of War in WW2.
It is now owned by Yorkshire Water, who have provided a car park on the Barff Lane side of the Barff, and is well used by walkers and bird watchers.
from the parish council site.
there was a USA airfield control tower there in WW2, which has now been demolished
i tried googling WW2 Brayton it has come up with a lot of information for Brayton for that time.
and two war diaries.
maybe it was on the POW camp.??
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It could be near an airforce base, as my grandfather was in the RAF at the time and must have been stationed near Selby (as he is originally from Lowestoft, Suffolk).
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I'm fairly sure that the place you are talking about was Gateforth Hospital - I know that was an isolation hospital and it's not far from Brayton. It was actually called the Leeds Sanatorium for Consumptives and was built in 1901.
http://www.institutions.org.uk/pictures/sanatoria/leeds_sanatorium.htm
I can remember visiting someone there around 1970 by which time it was not being used for TB patients but for other chest problems eg Lung Cancer
Multimap reference is here... http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=53.75194,-1.15036|13|4&loc=GB:53.75194:-1.15036:14|gateforth|Gateforth,%20YO8%209
Hope this helps!
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just a thought, could your father have said that his mum (your grandmother) worked at the Isolation Hospital in Brayton, rather then Brayton Isolation Hosptial that would cover the other hopsitals inthe area too.
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amis from memory the only airfield i knew of around that area was church fenton,
http://www.rafchurchfenton.org.uk/index2.htm
it is about 4/5 miles from gateforth and brayton.
there could of been some temporary ones dotted aroud its a very flat landscape but iv never seen any remains of any.
i will bve staying in gateforth next month so if you would like some pics of the place i will try and get some.
toni, brayton was a small village it didnt have hospitals in its area. in my opinion and i could be wrong but if you had an isolation hospital which did have a lot of grounds you wouldnt put another one temporary or not anywhere else but where there was allready one and you had all the staff in one place and isolated from other people
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Thank you Toni, Perth Tiger & Haster for the information so far.
I have managed to talk with my uncle (the eldest of the children), and he believes it was Gateforth Isolation Hospital, and that the slight confusion from my father was because my grandmother used to walk there from Selby, and used to pass Brayton Barff.
It has also been confirmed that my grandfather was stationed at RAF Churchfenton at one point during the war, so that must be how they met.
If you do get a chance to take photographs Perth Tiger, I would appreciate it, as I haven't been near Selby for a few years now (4 1/2 hour drive from here).
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I'm in Selby, Brayton over our garden fence - Happy to take any local photos that you might like ;)
Also, there's a chap at the local paper, by the name of Moody, who is a real font of all knowledge as far as Brayton is concerned - it might be worth emailing him : http://www.selbytoday.co.uk/contactus.aspx
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Hi Itch2stitch,
Any photographs would be appreciated, as I don't know when I'll next be able to get to Selby to see my relatives (it's been a few years), and it's a 4 1/2 hour drive from here.
My Grandmother was living in 17 Powell Street, Selby (the family home) at the time of her marriage in 1943, and my Great Grandfather worked at the Oil & Cake Mills as a blacksmith at that time.
Regards
Paul
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Paul, I'll pm you ;)
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hi paul
i havnt heard of brayton hospital but i do know of gateforth hospital which is close to selby. gateforth hospital was a tb hospital, and an isolation hospital during the war it's probably this hospital your father can remember
hope this is of use ::::----
in May 1907 a real photographic postcard(almost certainly produced by the sender) was sent to mrs richard kilham junior, denton??[can't read] hall , tydd st mary wisbech cambs --- in the message she states - some of my patients at the consumptive Sanatorium at Gateforth kindest regards to you and Richard .... can't read the name of the sender.
the postcard shows a dozen gardeners with tools . the postcard was posted at Leeds
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wonderful pic. you should post it on the restoration board so they can bring it back to life
perth :) :)
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Hi there. New to the forum. Was just passing through researching the area where I live and came upon this thread.
I live in one of the houses on the Gateforth Hall estate. My house was originally a servant's house. The hall / estate was built in about 1815 as a hunting lodge for Humphrey Osbaldeston. The family comes from Hunmanby near Scarborough and they lived at Hunmanby Hall. The history of ownership of Hunmanby Hall is here: http://www.hunmanby.com/ceshall.html
I imagine that the ownership of Gateforth Hall mirrors the ownership of Hunmanby Hall at least until 1922. In fact I have something in the deeds for my house about it being up for auction in about 1923 (that's without digging all the papers out and spending ages trying to find it!). The Gateforth Hall estate included the surrounding farms and these were auctioned off separately.
I know from the deeds to my house that the Hall was owned by Leeds City Council, which presumably made it into a hospital. During this period there were additional brick buildings erected as isolation wards. Then somehow the hospital came into the ownership of the National Coal Board who also used it as a hospital.
In the early 1980's the estate was auctiond off in lots and my house was bought by a retired miner and his wife. A builder bought some of the land and buildings and made the isolation wards into bungalows which he then sold. I'm not sure who bought the Hall itself, but when I bought my house in 1988 it was being run as a hotel, having previously been a nightclub I understand. I went there for a meal in the cellar bar couple of times during that period (and later was told that the celllar had been used as the mortuary for the hospital - eek!)
In the 1990's the Hall was sold and turned into an upmarket restaurant. See http://www.ukeatingout.com/yorkshire/martel.htmrestauranteur which is still up there although the restaurant is closed now. In the early part of this decade the hall was sold a couple of times and is now used as a private residence.
The pic of the grand looking house that someone has poseted is the right place. And if you put Gateforth Hall into Google Maps you can see the current satellite picture.
Sorry if this is more than you wanted to know, or not what you wanted to know. If you want me to delve into the deeds to my house for more precise details let me know.
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Oh and ....forgot to say yesterday ... it will have been called Brayton Hospital because the original house was documented as being in the Parish of Brayton.
Also I found this picture of it on the listed buildings database http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/details/default.aspx?id=325896
:D