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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: PrueM on Thursday 06 July 06 22:00 BST (UK)
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The Rootschat Victorian Photos website is being re-vamped, and has been renamed:
The Rootschat Collection of Victorian and Edwardian Photographs
I am in the process of scanning and uploading several hundred photos to add to the ones already there.
Also, I have re-organised the pics already on the site - now ordered by Photographer's name (if known), with references to photographers' locations (if known).
Please visit the site and keep visiting over the next few weeks, as the photos are added. I hope you enjoy your visit, and maybe even find a relative or two! :D
** NEW ADDRESS AS OF 18 SEP 2008!**
Visit the site at http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pruesfamily/index.html
Prue
Moderator Comment: URL edited to act as link
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Just got the certs I ordered on the mystery Victorian Photo Album - The Harris Collection:
Mrs Edward Brickell Harris died aged 33 years from Heart disease on 12/3/1866 at ?? Poulner, Ringwood - Husband Edward Harris was a Civil Engineer. Informant Eliza Hearthedge ???
And Marriage Cert: His name is wrong in Indexes -
Her husband was Edward Brickell Harris of full age Engineer, father David Harris a Leather Merchant. She was Ellen Slater, of full age, daughter of Edward Slater an upholsterer. A witness was Leonard Harris (presumably a brother) and Emily Maple (her best friend?) Married by licence in the Parish Church Hampstead.
I hope that this gives a bit more to go on.
Tjapaltjarri
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Lovely, Prue...! :D J.J.
I just went through the Jerome/West album...Noticed the aboriginal (metis?)
Mother and child. My husband is a Jerome...There could be relatives in there!
Wish I knew who they were, as his Jerome ancestors came from the Northern U.S. and into Canada...( There were MANY sons and many double marriages, so they populated a good deal of Minnesota and North Dakota, and Southern Manitoba & Saskatchewan here in Canada!! haha)
Thanks for all that work...wow...lovely scans...the old tin type must be so delicate to work with....How did you come to aquire these long enough to scan?
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Hi JJ :D
Thanks for the kind words :)
The Jerome/West album scans were sent to me by Mark Parsons (another Rootschatter) - I have to say I hadn't noticed the fact that the mother and son you mentioned were Canadian aboriginal folk (not being familiar with their appearance) so that is very interesting to know. It would be lovely if you could find a connection to hubby's family...here is the info Mark sent me about the photos:
They all come from an Album presented to G. A. West from F. E. Jerome on Feb 13 1883 and are all believed to be Wests and Jeromes. I have included the photographer/studio in the title of the photo, but I can provide the full address of the photographer of some of them if required. What fascinates me is the geographical spread, especially for that era! I’m sure some were added after 1883 but it pretty much covers the whole country plus New York and Canada. All the Aldershot ones are probably Jeromes, that’s where the album resides today with John Jerome MBE.
Maybe there is some way of contacting John Jerome MBE, or finding his genealogy online somewhere?
As for all the other pics, they are all in my possession, mostly donated by Jakky, but some of which I've bought at flea markets around the world, or which are ones in my family collection that I have no ID for. The Harris album is mine, too, but I'm hoping that with the research that Tjapaltjarri has done (above) I might one day be able to return it to the family :)
Glad you're enjoying the site!
Prue
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I've just made an inquiry re: Mr. Jerome...thanks...
Seems he just recently aquired his MBE Jan. of this very year!
Thanks again for the great site...will be looking in often to
appreciate it over and over...as will many! You're quite
the collector!
( very nice of you to try and find the the Harris Album family.)
J.J.
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Wondered if you would like these for the Collection ? Do not know if I am posting them in the right place !
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Hi everyone,
For reasons best left in the past (software update, loss of template etc.) I have had to update the look of the Rootschat Victorian Photographs website.
I can't find the original thread about it (*), so have started this new one. Hope that's OK, mods ;)
I am in the process of uploading it right now, so give it an hour or so and then please go and have a look at
...and see what you think.
I use a Mac, with RapidWeaver software, and Firefox browser, so I'd be interested to know if others with different OS etc. have any probs.
As usual, I look forward to hearing from ANYONE who might think they have a connection to someone in these lovely old photos :D
Prue
(*) Moderator Comment: but I can :). Topics merged.
See also:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,156012.0.html
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Prue,
If you want to see what the site looks like in a variety of browsers on different operating systems, go to:-
http://www.browsercam.com/
This is a subscription site but as a one-off, a 24 hour free trial is a available by registering with the site.
John
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1. Thank you, Bob, for merging the threads :D
2. Thanks Jamaine for that link - I will have a go with that tonight. V helpful (I hope!)
Cheers
Prue
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Hi there,
The work I did on trying to identify the people in the Harris collection is at the following chat topic address. Perhaps these could be moved to the new site as well.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,177549.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,177549.msg856217.html#msg856217
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,177549.msg854423.html#msg854423
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Howard
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Brilliant, Howard! Thanks for finding those. I think I must have very weak powers when it comes to tracking my movements on Rootschat (I think I move around too much!)
I will re-read what you have posted and try to follow up on what I can.
Cheers
prue
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Great idea, but sadly, it doesn't work properly on my system.
I know I am out of date - but there's a lot of Mac System 9.2.2 users still out there using IE 5.1.7, and the tabs appear all over the place with no names...so if I manage to find anything, it'll be a miracle. I can post up a screenshot if you like, so you can see what I see when I try it :(
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Hi Brambletye,
Sorry it doesn't work properly on your system, but I'm not a webpage designer by any stretch of the imagination, so what you see is all you will get, as I use basic templates from a basic software package for dummies, and can't change anything :-\
Have you thought about downloading Firefox? I'm sure there's a version that would work with OS9.
Prue :-\
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Have you thought about downloading Firefox? I'm sure there's a version that would work with OS9.
Brambletye
There is no easy way to say this, technology has moved on a long way since Mac 9 (released October 1999) & IE 5 (released March 1999). Even the very versatile Firefox will not work on such a system, from the Firefox website:
Due to the lack of developer interest, build machines, compilers and testing resources, the last mozilla.org software built for Mac OS 9 was Mozilla 1.2.1, released in December 2002. However, versions of our software that old are not recommended for security reasons. Therefore, for Mac OS 9 users, mozilla.org recommends iCab - which is, as far as we know, the only graphical browser currently maintained for Mac OS 9.
John
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That's a shame, John - have to say I hadn't realised OS9 was so old! :o I am on 10.4.9 now, but if my old laptop hadn't died a couple of years ago I might still be on OS9.
Sorry brambletye...maybe iCab mentioned in John's message might be useful though?
Prue
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It is not a program that I had heard of before, so perhaps others could comment on it, but here is a link to their website in case it is of some interest.
http://www.icab.de/
John
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Thank you John & Prue, I'll go on the site and see if I can download iCab.
I know I'm out of date, but unless I can run my machine as a dual-boot system, if I upgrade to any version of OSX, I'll have to upgrade all my software and some of my hardware - ouch, megabucks...!
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Again, thank you Prue for the pleasure you give us with your work on this site.
I had not visited for some time and have just spent a pleasant hour looking at some of the offerings.
Each time I look at these old pictures I am filled with admiration for the seamstresses who produced the wonderful clothes worn by the women, but tonight I was thinking how interesting it would be to go to a lecture where someone demonstrated the large variety of neckwear for the men, complete with the accompanying garments. I am unable to envision how some of the arrangements are applied. Fascinating.
Beth
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Fantastic website loving some of the pictures....
Hope you don't mind have added the website to my links directory on my website...
Quests
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Thanks Beth and quests :D
Quests, you are more than welcome to add the site as a link from your own page :D In fact I should probably do the same with my personal site.
Beth - I hear you! As one who has little patience even with machine sewing, it boggles my mind to think of the seamstresses and dressmakers who made all these beautiful concoctions! As for mens' neckwear, it's always the celluloid collars and bibs that get me. Imagine wearing something that stiff and hard and plasticcy around your sweaty neck!!!!!
Prue :)
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Prue,
As one who was a student nurse in the days of heavily starched uniforms I do not need to imagine, I know. I thought the constant abrasion I wore on my neck would scar me for life. However, it did eventually heal and disappear.
Beth
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Thankyou so much Prue,
What a fantastic display of photographs. I really appreciate the time and effort you must have spent on it. I have several old photos of my great grandparents that I will let you have, they are just sat in a drawer here, much better for them to be viewed. Best Wishes Lincsbabe :D
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Hi Lincsbabe :)
Thanks for your kind words - yes, it was an effort, but I enjoyed every minute :)
I'll happily add your g-grandparents to the site if you would like me to...but why don't you start your own website and put the photos on there with others of your family?
Cheers
Prue
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This site is currently offline.
see Topic: Free Webspace Server Down
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,273015.msg1584243.html#msg1584243
Normal Service will be resumed as soon as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Bob
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I'm waiting patiently to get some webspace on Roots chat to post photos and also I have transcriptions of Cemetary headstones that may interest/be of help for the Bangor and surrounding district in Gwynedd.
I usually use Front page or MSN Publisher but recently came across this html programme http://www.pagebreeze.com/ It looks a really easy programme that may be of use to members of Roots chat that are thinking of starting a website.
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I have tried several times on different days to access the victorian photos link. It tells me that the address doesn't exist. Typing in the address manually has no better result. Does anyone know what i can do to get in???? I've had the wife on it and our computer is of the n.a.s.a type, very powerful so it can't be file size problem. Is there perhaps a back door? Help! please.
Woozle
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Sorry, have just seen the site down message above mine. I can't modify mine so please disregard. At least i won't have to get a new computer.
Cheers
Woozle
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The site doesn't seem to be working... and I have some I think could be added!
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This site is currently offline.
see Topic: Free Webspace Server Down
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,273015.msg1584243.html#msg1584243
Normal Service will be resumed as soon as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Bob
Sorry Ostler - site is still down :'( :'( :'( We have no idea when it will come back up...but when it does, I'd love to add your photos to it!
Prue
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Hi Pru,
I have just found this page and find this idea of victorian photo site tremendous but could not get into it.
I wondered if you have any old photo's of travelliing theatre folk on there? My family were the Wells and they had a portable theatre, movong around the midlands for about 2 half decades or more. Joseph Wells and his wife Maria were my grea greats and i would love to know what they looked like; Eise
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Hi Eise :)
This site is currently offline.
see Topic: Free Webspace Server Down
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,273015.msg1584243.html#msg1584243
Normal Service will be resumed as soon as possible.
Thanks for your patience,
Bob
As far as I remember, there are no pictures of travelling folk amongst the photos I have, at least not specifically - there are hundreds of unnamed people in the photos, but nothing that says "traveller" to me :-\ Hopefully one day soon you'll be able to look through them for yourself! We are still waiting, though... :'(
Prue
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Hi
Any news yet as to when the site may be back on line. Still cannot access it. :( It sounds really good.
Evie
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Sorry Evie, no news :-\
I'm investigating other options though, so stay tuned!
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Folks, please see details of new website on this thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,321585.0.html
Cheers
Prue :)
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Thanks Prue
Had a quick look at your site, will study closer later. Brilliant, well done :)
Evie
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Hi Pru
What a wonderful collection, thank you so much for sharing them with us. There is something about old photographs, far better than todays so called photographers and this collection is a joy to view. Well done and thanks for posting them.
Roy
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Some nice work there,had a good look at your work and you have put in a lot of effort Prue.Its a fantastic job you are doing there but so time consuming!!! Been there got the T-shirt.This forum is lucky to have a dedicated mod like you on the Photoshop side of things.
if you ever need a hand (in the winter) just giz a nudge :)
John
ps Are you working in CS 4?
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Cheers everyone :)
John, I'm using Photoshop Elements 3 for the Mac :)
Haven't updated the site for a long time - all the scanning was finished ages ago but I still have most of the photos stored away (some have been returned to museums in places of origin; families of photographers etc.)
Cheers
Prue
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There's a website that holds a directory of early photographers by county - just thought I'd post this link here as it might help:
It's a subsection of another of another online photo collection i.e. Roger Vaughan Collection.
Main page: http://www.cartes.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm
Has a good section on dating old photos.....
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I don't know if any of you are LostCousins members, but they recently tried finding the first person to be photographed, i.e. the person with the earliest birth date to appear in a photograph.
What is the oldest you all have, and what's the oldest on Prue's site?
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I don't have any old photos in my collection, as the family house & contents were given to a sister who doesn't care about her ancestry and is a hoarder...so no one will likely ever even find where they are in all the clutter. :P
Like Prue's collection they'll probably turn up in a century and noone will know whose they are...
I did borrow some years ago to scan, and made a digital file of them before returning them. In retrospect, I should have kept the originals. I was the only one who cared enough to ask mom & find out who these people she called her ancestors even were. :-\ but I'd have felt like a thief, I suppose.
There are many sites online with claims to have decided on the "first photograph of a person" or the oldest person photographed in early photos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_photography
http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/27/first-ever-photograph-of-a-human-being/
http://gregorear.blogspot.com/2004/12/early-photography.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/christopherhowse/100001881/the-first-person-born-who-appeared-in-a-photograph/
But must add that this is Prue's thread , She originally had the site up on Rootschat but has moved it over... she'd like people to visit her work after all her scanning and compiling:
Rootschat's Victorian Photos Website
Visit the site at http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pruesfamily/index.html
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I only found this thread the other day & found it very interesting, especially the comments about photos being taken after death.
I downloaded some random Radio 4 podcasts to listen to in the gym and today found myself listening to one about a (new, I think) book called 'Photography in Death' and they mentioned different Victorian photos of dead children seated with their dolls, or lying on their bed posed as if asleep, mothers with swaddled (dead) babies etc. etc. - very fashionable at the time apparently. Macabre - but how odd to listen to that today having just read about it here :o
Pat
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Hi, I've just come across this post...I had a look at the website but not sure how I go about looking at the pics?? Do I have to order them??
Kelly x
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They were once posted on this site but took up a wee bit of room I'd imagine...If you ever want to see the original posting in a long thread such as this one... just go back to the top of page one on the thread...
Prue has done a huge amount of work scanning and posting images over the years... moved them to this new site a few years ago http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pruesfamily/index.html
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Hi, I've just come across this post...I had a look at the website but not sure how I go about looking at the pics?? Do I have to order them??
Kelly x
Thanks to J.J. for posting the new website address :)
Kelly, you just look at the photos on the website. As the home page explains, if you think someone might be an ancestor, etc., I can send you a bigger scan on request.
Cheers
Prue
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Some years ago I bought some glass plate negatives of unknown people
I was able to balance these in my old enlarger and did some prints
(These days I would scan it in)
No idea where they are now
There is a lot of pictures out there, largely totally unlabelled
I did get one find from a local museum
My great great uncle's photo and a much earlier age than any other photos we had
And he did not even live in that area (though his relatives did)
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May I add these photos? Sandra
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If you can use this, please do!
This is my great grandmother, Eveline Hammersley vonBerg.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/oshu/6416024221/" title="Ancestor by locamotion, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6416024221_42116bd9ed.jpg" width="299" height="500" alt="Ancestor"></a>
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Horrors over photos of dead children propped up for photos Sandra
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How very sad....
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I have cabinet photos with photographer on my website that you can include.
Go to photos then Bangor. Any problems please ask.
www.welshgenealogy.net