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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tyrone => Topic started by: thommoje on Sunday 13 May 07 05:50 BST (UK)
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My Great Grandparents - Samuel Glass and Margaret Rae --- were married on 15 March 1855 in County Tyrone and that is all I know - Where I wonder.
Their parents were Samuel Glass ( a farmer) + Margaret Moore and James Rae ( a farmer) + Elizabeth Gibson .
Can anyone see something familiar and shed some more light?
Regards, Thommoje
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With that collection of surnames it is very likely the marriage was non-Catholic, and was therefore registered. The registration of the marriage will show you where they were married.
Adrian
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Do you have their children: IGI lists 9 children, all born in Scotland, to a Samuel Glass & Margaret Rae: Margaret (1861), Samuel (1863), Samuel (1864), Emily (1866), William James (1868), Eliza (1869), Joseph Rae (1871), John (1873), David (1874).
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Thank you all for your help. Yes, I have those children. Eliza was my Grandmother. Yes, they would have been non- Catholic.
It is a bit difficult to do much follow-up from here in Australia as I still don`t know which Parish I need to look at . There was , however another daughter who does not appear in the IGI. Her name was Mary Ann Glass and I think she may have been born in Ireland before Samuel and Margaret went to Scotland. Estimating her age from Census records, she was possibly born circa 1858.
Establishing the Parish seems to be the key, Regards, Thommoje
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A little more information ---- I can now confirm that Mary Ann Glass was born in Ireland ( as per the 1891 Cencus for Scotland - place of birth column ) but still don`t know the Parish, Regards, Thommoje
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Hi Thommoje,
You can try this website as they have a very good database on northern Irish marriage registrations at:
www.emeraldancestors.com
It only cost you 10 pounds or A$20/21 for one month's subscription.
However, I took a peek at their free search--I am able to come up with a will on a Samuel Glass of Co Tyrone but no marriage registration on your couple--I think they may have been mistranscribed somewhere or their clergyman forgot to send into the register office.
Next thing is to look up on their fathers in Co Tyrone to see where they were.
Will have to find that link for you.
Cheers,
Tees
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Hi again,
Here's the link:
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php
There are three Samuel Glass (one of them is a Glassy) in the whole county of Tyrone and three different parishes.
You can try and to narrow it down by writing to three parish churches to see if they have your couple in their parish register books.
Hopefully, you will hit a right parent and you can get their marriage entry along with the baptism entry on their son.
As to Rae, it seems there is only one person with this surname in the whole county--Mary Rae???
Good luck with finding them!
Kind regards,
Tees
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MARRIAGE. SAMUEL GLASS TO MARGARET WRAY. 16-3-1855. RECORDED IN CLOGHERNEY,TYRONE, IRELAND. FATHERS. SAMUEL GLASS & JAMES WRAY. CIVIL REGISTRATION.
regards mary.
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Mary, You are a gem!
That certainly sounds like my folk. I can now work on forming a picture of where they lived and maybe find more family members.
It now seems so obvious to have tried the spelling " Wray". Have tried Ray as my father had Rae as his middle name but it was mis-spelt as Ray.
Regards, Jean ( Thommoje)
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Clogherney Church of Ireland, Omagh
Samuel Glass & Margaret Wray - 16/03/1855
Thomas Glass & Mary Jane McElrea - 13/12/1865
James Glass & Mary Anne Graham - 16/11/1893
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Thank you for that additional information. These are very likely members of the extended family in Clogherney .
The Griffiths Valuation did list quite a few people named Glass in County Tyrone, though only one from Clogherney - Tattykeeran , to be specific, Regards, Thommoje
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Clogherney Church of Ireland, Omagh
Samuel Glass & Margaret Wray - 16/03/1855
Thomas Glass & Mary Jane McElrea - 13/12/1865
James Glass & Mary Anne Graham - 16/11/1893
If anyone is connected to Mary Jane McElrea and Thomas Glass, please contact me. We have a one-name study for McElrea and she is one of our 'orphans.'
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Hello,
I have looked at the Thomas Glass + Mary Jane McElroy pairing as I believe , but cannot prove , that Thomas was a younger brother of my Great Grandfather , Samuel Glass. Samuel Glass + Margaret Rae ( Wray) were married in Clogherney parish as were Thomas + Mary Jane, as you know.
This is such a small place, that it seems likely.
I believe Thomas + Mary Jane had these children that I can find so far :-
William James Glass b 29 Aug 1866 , Six Mile Cross, Co. Tyrone
Margaret Glass 14 July 1868 Co Tyrone
James Glass 28 Dec 1869 '
a possible marriage - Mary Anne Graham 16 - 11 1893 , Clogherney Parish
Samuel Glass 28 June 1871 Six Mile Cross "
John Glass 23 Mar 1874 Co Tyrone
These childrens names match the family names of the children of Samuel Glass + Margaret Rae.
Samuel Glass` father was Samuel and Mary Jane`s father was James McElrae.
Don`t know if any of that is helpful but it is what I have gleaned so far, Regards, Thommoje
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I have archived your information and will watch for any links I see. James is certainly a well-used name in the McElrea family in the correct time-frame.
Thank you for sharing what you have.
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I am also reseaching the Glass family from Co. Tyrone. Legend has it that 3 brothers came from Scotland in the mid 1700's and each settled in different parts of Co. Tyrone. My line settled in the Plumbridge area, Aughalane to be precise. I can trace back only as far as Alexander, b 1794, my gggf. His son John, my ggf, had many children and many of their offspring were named Samuel. Some of those folks went back to Scotland in the late 1800's, I suspect to be with other relatives, possibly yours. Although I have not been able to link the different Glass families in Tyrone, I am betting there is a link. My line were Presbyterian and Glenelly Presbyterian Church records are online. Hope you have good luck with your family search.
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Thommoje,
I am trying to trace a Stewart Fulton White who married an Ann Rae about 1829. Both were born about 1806. From the “Flax Growers List of 1796” I think it likely that Stewart came from either Ardstraw or Clogherny and given the age of your Margaret Rae, there is a strong possibility that her father, James Rae, was the brother of my Ann Rae.
All just possibilities at this stage, but if you manage to push the line further back and find any of those names I would appreciate knowing about it.