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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: bishopsb on Thursday 10 May 07 01:56 BST (UK)
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I would be very greatful to anyone who could look for Patrick Margey. m. Helen (Ellen) McKindry d. Ballynian in 1910
I am looking for birth or marriage record. I believe his parents' names were Laurence and Margaret Margey.
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Would it be possible to locate a school record for him?
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Many school records are held at PRONI and the dates covered vary greatly. To see if the records do exist you need to know where the family were living and then check the schools in the area.
County Derry records (not complete) show a Laurence Margy born 1854 (probably from a baptism) & a Laurence in 1880. Several Patricks- 1879 (more than 1?), 1883, 1884, 1885.
Only marriage for a Lawrence Margey is 1906 to Rose Bradley.
Patrick Margey m.1879 Co. Derry to Ellen McKendry. (exact date and place not listed on index). If this is the correct couple then it is highly likely that Patrick was born too early for existing school records but it is always worth looking.
School registers will give date of entrance, name of child and age (later date of birth), religion, residence (townland), father's occupation- names of parents are NOT given.
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hello, MARRIAGE. MARGEY TO MCKENDRY. 28-11-1878. KILREA R.C. CHURCH. PARSH KILREA. CO. DERRY. (no first names given.)
regards mary.
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Hello,
I don't know if you still check this website. My great-grandfather was named Patrick Margey and he is from the same area and around the same age as the one you are describing.
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hi aem49 -
Pleased to meet you, thanks for your message. Patrick Margey was a my gggrandfather. I am descended from Lawrence Margey and Rose Bradley. I would love to discuss this further with you, information from here is so elusive. Best, Susan
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Hi All,
Some of this may help. Patrick MARGY married Ellen McKendry in Kilrea R.C. Church on 22 Feb 1879. In the PRONI WILLS section there is a will for a Patrick Margy which granted letters of administration to his daughter Isabella Bradley of Ballymenagh on 6 Jul 1893. Patrick was a farmer in Ballymenagh and he died on 29 Jul 1883.
On 10 Jan 1893 Isabella MARGEY married Patrick Bradley in Kilrea R.C. Church.
Regards
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I was talking to some family members and I was curious if your grandmother was named Sally Smith and if she lived on long island. If so, that is my great-grandfather's sister
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Hi there, wondering about your Rose Bradley, any idea of the townland that she was from?
Thank you!
Kathleen
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Do you have any connections to Margey's from the Inishowen area Co. Donegal?
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I have discovered that Lawrence Margey and Rose Bradley where my Great Grandparents. Hopefully you check this message. I'd love to exchange emails.
Thanks, Peter.
hi aem49 -
Pleased to meet you, thanks for your message. Patrick Margey was a my gggrandfather. I am descended from Lawrence Margey and Rose Bradley. I would love to discuss this further with you, information from here is so elusive. Best, Susan
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well hello there, 4got i'd signed up in here. Anyhoo i'd be a Margey and ive heard the name Lawerence bandied about once and a while.
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Hi Susan,
they are also my g.grandparents. Their daughter Ellen, my grandmother moved to Scotland, where I am now. My grandmother passed away some time ago and had given up my mother for adoption very early, so although this wasn't a secret, we never got to know any Irish family,so you would be the first!
Thanks,
Peter.
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Peter
Laurence and rose Margey are my great grandparents also. My Dad was Joe Margey, son of Ellen. I know Ellen moved to Scotland and ended up in Helensburgh married to a guy called Finnigan,can't remeber his first name. My Dad only discovered Ellen was his Mum in his twenties having been brought up practically from birth by Laurence and Rose (that's the way it was then !)..he grew up with his uncle Mick and Aunt Maggie in a farmhouse in Swatragh/ Kilrea ..my Dad died some years ago. He got news late in life that he had a half sister called Susan I think. She married a bookie from Airdire called Pat Higgins. She has also passed away...hope this is of interest to you. Regards Joe
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I have been trying to trace my grandfathers sisters who went to new york/ philadelphia in early 1900s and found one of his sisters on the 1940 census living with a cousin sarah smith married to joseph smith from florida with a son edward. The lady I was trying to trace who was living with them was ellen rogers nee o'kane who was home here in garvagh in 1968 ish and always went to visit the margey s in ballynian swatragh. Would you know of either of these connections.
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Hi I am Liz my great grandmother was also Ellen Margey. The Ellen Margey I am related she had a son in 1923 called John McGuinness and a daughter born 1926 Annie McGuinness their father was John McGuinness. I wonder if this is the same Ellen Margey. I do remember that the family where in Scotland but other than that I stumped.
Kind Regards
Liz Ewing
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Hi i am trying to trace my great grandmothers family. Her name was Anne Margey(also known as Nancy). She passed away in Airdrie, scotland in 1887 aged 35.
Her parents were Lawrence Margey and Emily Crawley.
She was married to my great grandfather John McQuillan who also passed away here in scotland in 1932. I believe he came from keady or bellaghy, baptised in 1854 in Maghera & killylough.
I am struggling to find/trace the Margey family. Any help /information would be appreciated.
Thank you
Annette
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Annette,
John McQuillan & Ann married 12.12.1877. He lived in Keady. His father was Michael, a farmer (who appears to have been alive at that date). Ann lived in Ballynian. Her father was Laurence, another farmer, and he was dead in 1877.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11146/8082613.pdf
Griffiths Valuation (1858) lists Emily Margy in Ballynian. She had plots 27 & 28 which were just over 15 acres. That she was named rather than her husband, indicates he was dead by that year. I also note Crilly & O’Crilly households in the townland. So I’d guess that was her maiden name (rather than Crawley as evidently appears on the Scottish documentation). The O’ & Mc prefixes on Irish names were detachable and used or dropped at whim. Emily’s farm in Ballynian today is on the Killygulib Rd, just east of Swatragh. Emily looks to have died on 19.11.1866 aged 55.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
Keady (in the parish of Maghera) is the next townland south from Ballynian. So John more or less married the girl next door. Griffiths lists Michael McQuillan senior & junior farming plots 5 & 6 in Keady. You can see where those properties are today using the maps on the Griffiths site.
Probate abstracts:
The Will of Michael M'Quillen otherwise M'Quillion late of Keady County Londonderry Farmer who died 12 January 1893 at same place was proved at Londonderry by Henry Mathews of Culnagrew in said County Farmer one of the Executors.
The above will is on-line on the PRONI will website.
Probate of the Will of Patrick Margey late of Ballynian County Londonderry Farmer who died 24 July 1910 granted at Londonderry to Laurence Margey Farmer.
This looks likely to be your Margey family in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Grove/Ballynian/1521685/
1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/The_Grove/Ballynian/595319
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Keady (in the parish of Maghera) is the next townland south from Ballynian. So John more or less married the girl next door.
Ballynian townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/tamlaght-ocrilly/ballynian/
Keady townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/maghera/keady/
KG
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Hi Elwyn, thank you so much for your help, it's greatly appreciated. I have been "stuck" on the McQuillan/Margey side for a long time now.
Do you know how many children Ann & John had? Again this is difficult to find out.
Thank you....
Annette 😊
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No I don’t know how many children they had. I don’t see any in Ireland. Perhaps the couple moved to Scotland soon after they married? That was fairly common. So any children could be born there. Have you checked the 1881 & 1891 Scottish censuses. That should list the family, as well as where they were born.
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Thank you for your help.
Annette
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Sarah Margey married Joseph Smith in 1936 in Manhattan and her brother Patrick b 1908 married Julia Murphy in 1934, in Roslyn, Long Island, New York. Both were children of Laurence Margey and Rose Bradley
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Both were children of Laurence Margey and Rose Bradley
Here's the URL link for the marriage (not yet attached)-
On 4 July 1906 at St Patrick's RC Church, Glen.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10134/5687091.pdf
Laurence Margey - 1901 and 1911 censuses.
See reply #17
...wondering about your Rose Bradley, any idea of the townland that she was from?
In 1901 census...Granaghan in Killelagh civil parish.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Swatragh/Granaghan/1545584/
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/killelagh/swatragh/granaghan/
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On 4 July 1906 at St Patrick's RC Church, Glen.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10134/5687091.pdf
Youngest? sibling of the Margey/Bradley marriage-
U/1922/96/1008/19/126 James Margey 14th April 1922 Male Bradley Coleraine
GRONI Online https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/