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Title: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: Heather D on Friday 03 December 04 16:42 GMT (UK)
Would someone mind looking at the village of Willoughby on the Wolds in 1851 please? I believe this is on piece 2086.

Looking for a Sarah Brown, born there c.1833. Her parents were Joseph and Ann, but in 1841 she was with grandmother Mary Barnett who died 1847.

If you could also keep an eye out for an Isaac Williams born c.1826 who I have "lost" from Cropwell Bishop - he married Sarah Brown in Willoughby in 1853.

Many thanks, Heather
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Friday 03 December 04 22:11 GMT (UK)
Greeting's Again Heather.....

I'm sorry but
Willoughby - on - the - Wolds....
Comes under Nottinghamshire....

Try the Nottinghamshire section of this site

MIKE.
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: Heather D on Friday 03 December 04 22:19 GMT (UK)
Well I'm flummoxed now Mike :D I've got the 1851 Notts and couldn't see it there ...

A search of the national archives tells me that Willoughby on the Wolds (Notts) is in piece 2086 of the Leics. census!
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Friday 03 December 04 23:24 GMT (UK)
Greeting's again Heather....

The plot thichens then.... :-\

Willougby is not in my 1841,51,61, 91
Census returns for Leicestershire....

From  Nottinhamshire Parishes Districts.....
Loughborough
Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Leicestershire, but included parts of Nottinghamsire.
Sub-districts : Leake; Loughborough.
GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7a (1852-1930).
Costock, East Leake, Normanton on Soar, Rempstone, Stanford on Soar, Sutton Bonington, Thorpe in the Glebe, West Leake, Willoughby, Wysall.
Registers now divided between Leicestershire and Rushcliffe districts.


Sorry just did a search on my parish locater and it's telling me it's Nott's

MIKE.
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: Heather D on Saturday 04 December 04 08:02 GMT (UK)
Sorry Mike, I wasn't disputing that it's in Notts - it definitely is  :) However it's close to the Leics border, only 3 miles from Wymeswold and 4 miles from Burton on the Wolds.

Piece 2086 isn't in the Notts census (it's Loughborough district I believe) but bet your life if I ever track it down, the people I want won't be there  ;D
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: wwheel on Friday 17 February 12 12:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Heatherdd, just joined this forum and searched for Widmerpool/Willoughby and Barnett, and glad this post appeared. Great to meet another Barnett ancestor researcher  :)

Forgive me for posting this here, I have a slight border qunadry too.  The ancestor I had been looking at records for, is William Barnett b 1807, in the 1841 census his birthplace was listed as Willoughby on the Wolds, then 1861 census lists Widmerpool as his birth place.

Have searched on ancestry.co.uk, looks like William Barnett b 1807 father Samuel Barnett married Mary Skellington 7th July 1806 in Willoughby on the Wolds.  Did a search on the 1841 census to see if  there were more Barnett's in Willoughby on the Wolds pre 1800, there does seem to be a cluster of William and Mary Barnett's pre 1800.  Guessing the next step will be to have a look at parish records and try and piece the jigsaw together some more.  Another Nottinghamshire Leicestershire border quandry, wondering if the parish records for Willoughby on the Wolds be in Nottingham, Leicester or perhaps even both?  Will continue searching and will return to this wonderful forum I am sure :-)
 
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: diddymiller on Friday 17 February 12 16:17 GMT (UK)
just bringing this site to mind as you both have ancestors in the area:

http://www.hoap.co.uk/who/index.htm

wolds historical organisation incl PRs /census etc for area.

Diddy
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: diddymiller on Friday 17 February 12 16:20 GMT (UK)
I can check in Loughborough library next time in for census 2086 - see if its there. they hold quite a few of the local village census.

Diddy
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: diddymiller on Friday 17 February 12 16:37 GMT (UK)
there is a sarah brown b. wysall abt 1829 on the 1851 as a visitor in Colston Bassett: could this be her? wysall next door to willoughby.

1851:
Thomas Hicks 62
Ann Hicks      66
Sarah Brown  22

Class: HO107; Piece: 2139; Folio: 343; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87769

trying to look through the willoughby 1851 census on A* but 31 pages and not all loading so may be a long job!

Diddy
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: diddymiller on Friday 17 February 12 16:50 GMT (UK)
had to give up for now - A* not loading properly and  very sloooooow!!

Diddy
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 20 February 12 11:38 GMT (UK)
loughborough library comes up trumps again!

folio 2086 on film contains:
stanford on soar; normanton; suttom Bonington; west & East leake;Costock
Rempstone;Wysall; thorpe in hte Glebe;Willoughby;Wym,eswold;Burton on the wolds;Prestwold;Hoton & cotes

cheked Willoughby - no sarah. found this brown family you might wnat as may be related:
William  25 shoemaker
Mary     25
Frederic  4
mary Ann  2
Maria   6 mths

decided to check Wysall as right next door to willoughby - couldn't check while film!!  and found:

John Case    76   grazier of horses?    wysall
Sarah brown 22    house servant         wysall

think she is probably yours. there are 7 other Brown families in wysall (no sign of a Joseph/Ann. can post if you need.

Diddy
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: Heather D on Friday 24 February 12 21:53 GMT (UK)
How strange to see this thread resurrected after all these years. Thanks Diddy for all your digging. Sarah was definitely born in Willoughby as I've been through the parish registers but that servant is quite likely to be her anyway. All I can say for definite is that I know where she was from 1853 when she married :)

Have replied to wwheel via inbox

Thanks Heather
Title: Re: 1851 Brown Willoughby
Post by: Heather D on Friday 24 February 12 22:21 GMT (UK)
By the way, the remaining mystery from this thread is "whatever happened to Ann Barnett?"! She married Joseph Brown in Willoughby 1823 and had four children, the youngest being Sarah 1833.

By 1839 Joseph has a child by Sarah Robinson, nee Wainwright, and in the 1841 census he is living with her as man and wife while his children by Ann are with their maternal grandmother. I have been through the burial records and found no trace of an Ann Brown. Nor did Joseph re-marry, which suggests his wife was still living.

I strongly suspect she did a runner and lived out her life under an assumed name. Just thought I'd put this out there in case any names ring bells!

Heather