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Looking for information on Robert Bryce born c1811 at Airdrie. He married Agness Jinkin at St Ninian in 1828 and the 1851 census lists them at St Ninian as
Agness Bryce m. Robert b.1811 St. Ninian, Stirling wife
David Bryce b.1850 Govan Lanark son
James Bryce b.1836 St. Ninian, Stirling,son
John Bryce b.1831 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
Margaret Bryce b. 1846 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
Robert Bryce b.1810 Andrie, Lanark, Head
Robert Bryce b.1834 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
William Bryce b. 1841 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
Robert died at Southwick, Sunderland in 1876 and most of his sons were Iron Shipbuilders who worked on the rivers Tyne, Wear and Tees, as well as at Barrow in Furness and Pembroke Dock/Haverfordwest in Wales.
Whilst Robert may have been born in Airdrie, there may also be links with Coatbridge (note David was born at Govan in 1850) and I would be interested in finding his parents and siblings.
One possible link could be to this family:
James Bryce married Agnes Wood in 1799 in Lanark. They had a large family, all seem to have been born in the same area of Lanarkshire: Jean 1799, John 1801, Janet 1803, William 1804, Agnes 1806, James 20 02 1808, Thomas 05 11 1809, Robert 01 06 1811, David 02 11 1813, Margaret 20 08 1815, George 1817, Alexander 06 09 1812 and Helen 03 08 1821 a second Alexander 19 10 1818.
I believe the only link with St Ninian is the marriage to Agness and I don't believe that Robert was, as far as I can gather at present, related to another, well documented, Bryce family in St Ninian.
Grateful for any information.
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Hello there,
I did a quick check on Scotlandspeople and there were no Robert Bryce births between between 1800 and 1830 for births on Airdrie,
There are 35 Robert Bryce births/baptisms for that period 15 in Lanarkshire, one in Old Monkland,
28/04/1811 parents Thomas Bryce and Janet Harvey.
I will look and see if there are any siblings with those parents.
22/08/1813 - Margaret Bryce Same parents....
Did find this web page that may be useful:
http://airdrie.net/weblog2/
Best wishes and sorry could not help you more
Mo
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Many thanks for your help Mo.
It has taken quite a while to establish that Robert was born at Airdrie, but it is now proving more difficult to find his parents and siblings.
Will check out the link.
Jim
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Hi Jim
I know that it is quite a while since you last appeared on Roots Chat but hopefully you may get this or someone will pass it on.
I too are very interested in the Bryce family .. my lot James Bryce and Janet Bryce nee Miller came out to New Zealand in 1874 and settled in Palmerston near Dunedin, Otago. James was born to Robert Bryce and Margaret Little on 25.12.1844.
Also resident at Palmerston was a George Bryce. On his Death Certificate James Bryce states he was a uncle to George Bryce. I believe this George Bryce might have been born to James Bryce and Agnes Wood on 05.05.1817. This of course leads me to your post above:-
"James Bryce married Agnes Wood in 1799 in Lanark. They had a large family, all seem to have been born in the same area of Lanarkshire: Jean 1799, John 1801, Janet 1803, William 1804, Agnes 1806, James 20 02 1808, Thomas 05 11 1809, Robert 01 06 1811, David 02 11 1813, Margaret 20 08 1815, George 1817, Alexander 06 09 1812 and Helen 03 08 1821 a second Alexander 19 10 1818".
I wonder you have an interest in my James Bryce and any knowledge of the George Bryce born in 1817.
It would be great to hear from you.
Kind regards
Alex G ;D
New Zealand
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Hello Alex and many thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, still no further forward with my search. I have copied your post to another Bryce researcher on my line, also resident in New Zealand, and hope she can find a common link between our trees. I am sure we have looked at the James Bryce and Agnes Woods families in the past, but discounted them. However, my record keeping isn't the best so I await a reply from New Zealand to discount or confirm my thoughts.
There are a lot of common names between the two trees, but our ancestors may have deliberately gone that route to confuse us ;D
Jim
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Jim
Many thanks for your reply and agree with you.
I discovered 3 or 4 years ago that my James Bryce left behind a half brother in Glasgow when he came out to New Zealand in 1875. This opened up a whole new family line we knew nothing about previously . Absolutely fascinating and it took me across the USA and Scotland last year in 2013 to meet and stay with them. We still keep in touch.
The information that linked George Bryce to James Bryce and Agnes Woods .. possibly his parents. George's Death Certificate stated he was aged 71 years when he died on 14.08.1888 which makes his date of birth as 1817 hence James Bryce and Agnes Woods being his parents ???
I have yet to find the link between my James Bryce and his uncle George Bryce's parents only the death certificate in New Zealand and the information contained there.
Would be nice to hear from the other Bryce researcher in New Zealand .. maybe we have a common interest though I realise there are a few Bryce families out here other then my lot?
Cheers
Alex G ;D
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Hi Alex,
I see you have a George Bryce who died in 1888 aged 71, but you mention his uncle James Bryce being on the death certificate. Is this a very old uncle or a nephew ?
The Bryce family uses the same names over and over again.
Very confusing for us descendants !
I live in New Zealand too but I don't think we're related, although I am related to Jim.
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Hello there from Invercargill
The Death Certificate for George Bryce who died in 1888 aged 71 states the death was registered (if I recall correctly) by James Bryce (my great grand father) who states on the Certificate that George Bryce was his uncle. James Bryce would be a nephew to George !!
I have attempted to trace the family of George Bryce i.e. his parents and keep coming back to James and Agnes Wood but never got beyond that.
You are right there are many Bryce families, all over New Zealand and the world in fact with the name of James.
Cheers
Alex G
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Thanks for the reply. I thought you might be a Mainlander. There are many Bryces there. Did you read the report of your George's death in "PapersPast " ? He was a groom and died in his sleep in a Palmerston hotel . Apparently there had been two similar unexpected deaths in the same hotel previous to his but the coroner thought it was just coincidence.
Anyway, I'm in Wanganui, where of course we have a Bryce street, if you're ever up this way, it would be good to meet and compare family trees.
Best Wishes.
J.
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Greetings Forfarian
First may I apologize for messaging you directly. I do thank you for your assistance recently when I was searching for the Alexander and Margaret Miller in and around Uphall, West Lothian. This was invaluable and most appreciated.
In writing to you directly on this occasion I was hopeful you may cast your eye across this post quoted below. I have been chasing it around Roots Chat for quite a while now in various forms (depending on the family member) and very reluctant to post another thread. It is your vast experience and familiarity with records in Scotland that I was hoping might provide an answer.
I understand if you are unable to offer any opinion.
If you scroll down the post below to :-
"I too are very interested in the Bryce family .. my lot James Bryce and Janet Bryce nee Miller came out to New Zealand in 1874 and settled in Palmerston near Dunedin, Otago. James was born to Robert Bryce and Margaret Little on 25.12.1844.
Also resident at Palmerston was a George Bryce. On his Death Certificate James Bryce states he was a uncle to George Bryce. I believe this George Bryce might have been born to James Bryce and Agnes Wood on 05.05.1817. This of course leads me to your post above:-
"James Bryce married Agnes Wood in 1799 in Lanark. They had a large family, all seem to have been born in the same area of Lanarkshire: Jean 1799, John 1801, Janet 1803, William 1804, Agnes 1806, James 20 02 1808, Thomas 05 11 1809, Robert 01 06 1811, David 02 11 1813, Margaret 20 08 1815, George 1817, Alexander 06 09 1812 and Helen 03 08 1821 a second Alexander 19 10 1818".
I wonder you have an interest in my James Bryce and any knowledge of the George Bryce born in 1817".
I am trying to find the father of James Bryce born on 25.12.1844. I have the Birth Cert from Scotland's People .. the mother was Robert Bryce and Margaret Little. Also trying to find the link between George Bryce uncle of James Bryce who died at Palmerston, New Zealand in 1888. I have this Death Cert also signed by James Bryce as the Informant.
Now logic tells me that if George Bryce is an uncle of James Bryce then George and Robert have the same parents hence this post below .. John Bryce and Agnes Wood. ???
This Robert Bryce the father of James Bryce died somewhere around Glasgow in 1854 or 1855 about the time official records became compulsory but his record of death has never being located ???
Robert Bryce remarried Isabella MacKay on 17.12.1853 (I have the Marriage Cert) and they had one son John Bryce born on 12.02.1855 (from Bryce Family Bible). A half brother of James Bryce, ... John's Birth Cert has never been located ???
Isabella Bryce nee MacKay appears in the 1861 Census as a widow in Glasgow. She died on 24.01.1891 in Glasgow.
My question now is to locate the above records?
Thanking you in anticipation and hoping you are able to assist?
Alex G
New Zealand
Looking for information on Robert Bryce born c1811 at Airdrie. He married Agness Jinkin at St Ninian in 1828 and the 1851 census lists them at St Ninian as
Agness Bryce m. Robert b.1811 St. Ninian, Stirling wife
David Bryce b.1850 Govan Lanark son
James Bryce b.1836 St. Ninian, Stirling,son
John Bryce b.1831 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
Margaret Bryce b. 1846 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
Robert Bryce b.1810 Andrie, Lanark, Head
Robert Bryce b.1834 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
William Bryce b. 1841 St. Ninian, Stirling, son
Robert died at Southwick, Sunderland in 1876 and most of his sons were Iron Shipbuilders who worked on the rivers Tyne, Wear and Tees, as well as at Barrow in Furness and Pembroke Dock/Haverfordwest in Wales.
Whilst Robert may have been born in Airdrie, there may also be links with Coatbridge (note David was born at Govan in 1850) and I would be interested in finding his parents and siblings.
One possible link could be to this family:
James Bryce married Agnes Wood in 1799 in Lanark. They had a large family, all seem to have been born in the same area of Lanarkshire: Jean 1799, John 1801, Janet 1803, William 1804, Agnes 1806, James 20 02 1808, Thomas 05 11 1809, Robert 01 06 1811, David 02 11 1813, Margaret 20 08 1815, George 1817, Alexander 06 09 1812 and Helen 03 08 1821 a second Alexander 19 10 1818.
I believe the only link with St Ninian is the marriage to Agness and I don't believe that Robert was, as far as I can gather at present, related to another, well documented, Bryce family in St Ninian.
Grateful for any information.
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Thomas Bryce 1819 - 1903 from Lanarkshire. (My 3rd Great Grandfather).
Could this be the same family?
https://www.deeprootstalltrees.com/Journals/bryce/d1.htm