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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: Laverdiere on Thursday 03 May 07 19:08 BST (UK)
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I'm looking for the mysterious Thomas Quail or Quailie of Kirby Ireleth (not sure where that is). He likely married Mary Adison in Dalton-in-Furness before moving to Kirby Ireleth. Haven't been able to trace him further. Family story says the family came from the Isle of Man.
All help appreciated! Thanks, Laverdiere
QUAIL, THOMAS married Mary Adison in the parish of Dalton-in-Furness, Lancashire in 1757 . They then moved to the parish of Kirkby Ireleth where the following children were born:
1. Thomas Quail
2. Esther Quail
3. Mary Quail
4. Henry Quail
5. John Quail
6. Anne Quail
7. James Quail
8. Betty Quail
Thomas was born while the family lived at Craggfield. The rest of the children (except the youngest two) were born at Burney. James and Betty were christened in Bootle, Cumberland.
Thomas was a farmer and died sometime before 1842 .
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Hi Laverdiere,
My Grandfather was born in Kirkby Ireleth in 1860. It was then in Lancs, - now in Cumbria. The Registration District was Ulverston.
HTH, Romilly.
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Hi Laverdiere,
I live in Dalton In Furness and know of Addisons. Ireleth as it is now know is about 3 miles from here.
What particularly interests me is I have Quayles in my tree, just discovered them. Many People who have roots in Cumberland have Manx ancestry as i do.
Please let me know if I can help,
Carol Oliver.
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Hi Carol, thanks for your offer of help! It's nice to have someone "on location." I live in Canada. I was going to order the parish records of Dalton in furness and Ireleth and see if I can get the connection between the Quail/Addisons mapped out.
Which Quails are you related too?
I wonder if my Thomas Quail is buried in some Ireleth gaveyard? He died before 1842. Is Bootle near Ireleth? The last two children were born there.
My Ann Quail ended up married Christopher Wedderburn of Lindale farm, Dalton-in-Furness and they immigrated to South Africa in 1820. Christopher was the son of John Wedderburn and Ann Hodgson.
Thanks, Laverdiere
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Hi Carol,
I would love to know if any of the places where my Wilson ancestors lived in Kirkby Ireleth still exist.
They variously lived in Sandside, Beckside Cottage & Friar's Ground, (according to the Censuses).
I would imagine that they married & were baptized at St Cuthberts...
Do you ever get over that way?
Romilly.
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I would love to know if any of the places where my Wilson ancestors lived in Kirkby Ireleth still exist.
They variously lived in Sandside, Beckside Cottage & Friar's Ground, (according to the Censuses).
Try a map - http://tinyurl.com/2hb9gz
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Try a map - http://tinyurl.com/2hb9gz
I have looked at many maps thank you.
However, I am in SW. Hertfordshire & haven't been able to visit Cumbria as yet...(although I would like to one day).
It would be lovely to know how much is still there though...& I don't think that maps can tell me this.
Romilly.
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Hi Romilly,
As you have seen those places do still exist, Kirby is about 8 miles from me and Ireleth about 3. When I have a little spare time, between work and kids lol I would be more than happy to take some pictures for you. I could e mail them to you. Not sure how I can get your e mail through here though.Let me know.
Laverdiere hi too!
My Quayles are spelt differently and were from the Isle of Man, descendants moved to Workington in 1850.Bootle is about 20 miles further up the coast from Kirby.
Please let me know if I can help.
Have either of you been here? Id be delighted to mail photos to either ogf you and can look for graves in the churchyards, infact I love doing that!!
Regards,
Carol
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Hi Carol,
Thanks for your kind offer, - I would love to see some pics. (I have PM'd you with contact details, as you can't send pics by PM on here).
I expect that my lot would have been too poor for gravestones, (they were all Slate Quarriers), but you never know ;D ;D
I'd be fascinated to know if 'The Railway Inn'; which my Great Grandfather was running in 1861, is still there!!
Cheers, Romilly :)
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Hi Romilly, saw your question regarding The Railway Inn, according to the Kirkby Fragments booklet Vol 4, published by The History of Kirkby Group, there is a pub at Sandside called the Railway Arms, but they state that it opened in 1846 but no record of an Inn or Beerhouse in the area in the 1851 Census. First records were found in 1876 when Licencee was G. Holmes, owners were W. Ashburner, Brewers of Dalton. I reckon it must have been an unlicenced premesis. If you want the booklet(s)
there are 4 of them price £3.50 each, you can get them from,
CA Rowntree, Old Mill, Beckside, Kirkby in Furness, Cumbria
LA17 7TH. Hope you don't mind me butting in. Regards, Jim.
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Hi Romilly, saw your question regarding The Railway Inn, according to the Kirkby Fragments booklet Vol 4, published by The History of Kirkby Group, there is a pub at Sandside called the Railway Arms, but they state that it opened in 1846 but no record of an Inn or Beerhouse in the area in the 1851 Census. First records were found in 1876 when Licencee was G. Holmes, owners were W. Ashburner, Brewers of Dalton. I reckon it must have been an unlicenced premesis. If you want the booklet(s)
there are 4 of them price £3.50 each, you can get them from,
CA Rowntree, Old Mill, Beckside, Kirkby in Furness, Cumbria
LA17 7TH. Hope you don't mind me butting in. Regards, Jim.
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the info, - & of course you're not butting in!!
On the 1861 Census for Kirkby Ireleth, My G/Grandparents, William & Elizabeth (née Brunton) Wilson, are shown as residing at:
114 Sandside; which is called, 'The Railway Inn', (Ref: RG9/3172).
William Wilson's Occupation is given as 'BeerHouse Keeper & Slate Quarrier', - an interesting combination ;D ;D
I might be wrong, but I don't think that Beerhouses required a similar liscence to a Pub; which would have served liquor other than just beer...
Thanks for the info about the 'Kirkby Fragments', - I will get onto that!
Btw...I still haven't managed to get hold of a copy of 'Burlington Blue-Grey':-(
Hopefully they will do a re-print of it at some stage.
Best Wishes, Romilly.