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Title: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Mizarae on Thursday 03 May 07 16:55 BST (UK)
I have Stewart ancestors from the Perthshire areas (including Logierait, Newmill, Hutton, Kinclaven, Blairgowrie, Coupar Angus) who ended up in Dundee

If these places are familiar to your Stewart ancestors, please contact me and I can provide a list of names and dates to see if we have a match somewhere.
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: jillruss on Thursday 03 May 07 17:07 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have a Jean Stewart from Perthshire - I'm struggling to find her baptism.

She married Alexander Ferrier in Perth in 1781. there's a possible baptism for her in 1759 in Longforgan on the IGI.

If you can help in any way, I'll be very happy!   ;D

Jill
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: wrjones on Thursday 03 May 07 17:14 BST (UK)
I have a Charlotte Stewart in my Tree who was born in Rattray Perthshire in 1865.She was the illegitimate daughter of Donald Anderson Stewart and Jane Mitchell.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Geoff on Friday 04 May 07 00:01 BST (UK)
I Have Robert STEWART b1808 at Coal Grieve,Alyth,Perthshire.
He married into my CRICHTON family when he married Janet CRICHTON in Alyth 1830.
Their first 3 children born in Alyth then they moved to Wemyss,Fife about 1837/8.
They then moved to Scoonies,Fife about 1846/7.

I have 10 children listed for Robert & Janet, but I suspect there may be more I haven't located as yet.
They are: Margery,1831, Robert 1833, Susan 1835, William 1838, John 1839, Jean 1841, Daniel 1847, Janet 1849, Margaret 1850, Helen 1853,

Any of these of Interest?

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Dundee Stewart on Friday 04 May 07 01:11 BST (UK)
I am looking for information on Duncan Stewart born Rattray (Blairgowrie) in 1861.   He married a lady known only as "Smart" in 1878 in Dundee, had three girls then emigrated to Pennsylvania, where James Stewart was born in 1880.   The family returned to Dundee and over the years two other sons were born.  James Stewart is my grandfather which makes Duncan my Great Grandfather.
James Stewart had 10 children one of them also called James (known as Jimmy).   He was my father who died in 1963.  Can you be of any assistance.
Thanks
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Mizarae on Friday 04 May 07 08:55 BST (UK)
Here is the list of my Stewart ancestors so far.

John Stewart (b. 1772, Clunie, Perth) married on 09.07.1805, Caputh, Perth to Amelia Jackson (b. 20.05.1774, Little Dunkeld, Perth) – 3 children

William (b. 20.01.1806, Caputh, Perth)
Agnes (b. 1808, Caputh, Perth)
*John (b. 1809, Caputh, Perth)

*John married on 22.12.1832, Clunie, Perth to Mary Stewart (b. c. 1811, Fort Augustus/Boleskine, Inverness?) – 10 children:

Catherine (b. c. 1834, Little Dunkeld, Perth)
Amelia (b. 01.05.1835, Bendochy, Perth)
Elizabeth (b. 12.02.1837, Bendochy, Perth)
John (b. 22.02.1839, Bendochy, Perth; d. 13.09.1919)
James (b. 07.03.1841, Bendochy, Perth)
*William (b. 16.02.1843, Bendochy, Perth)
Mary (b. 18.02.1845, Bendochy, Perth)
David (b. 06.07.1847, Bendochy, Perth)
Peter (b. 10.12.1849, Bendochy Perth)
Jessie (b. 01.07.1852, Bendochy, Perth)

*William married on 12.06.1865, Blairgowrie, Perth to Agnes Lawson (b. c. 1841, Kinnaird, Perth) – 10 children:

Agnes (b. 1863, Lundie, Forfar, Angus)
*David (b. 11.5.1865, Blairgowrie, Perth; d. 25.12.1920, Meigle, Perthshire)
Mary (b. 08.01.867, Blairgowrie, Perth)
Jessie (b. 31.12.1868, Coupar Angus, Perth)
Elizabeth (b. 02.11.1870, Coupar Angus, Perth)
John (b. 08.04.1873, Coupar Angus, Perth)
Amelia (b. c. 1876, Coupar Angus, Perth)
Annie (Ammy) (b. 1879, Kettins, Forfar, Angus)
Hope McKenzie (b. c. 1880, Kettins, Forfar, Angus)
William (b. c. 1888, Perth)

*David married on 31.12.1891, Blairgowrie, Perth to Jane Naismith – 2 children (so far):

Hope McKenzie, McLean, Lawson (b. 02.04.1895, Strathmartine, By Forfar) m. Alexander Mands in 1913
Davina (b. 1900, Aitkenhead, Clunie, Perth; d. 03.09.1972, Dundee) m. David Millar in 1916

*then David married on 13.01.1905, Dundee to Mary Munro [prev. Campbell] (b. 25.01.1873, St Madoes, Perth; d. 01.06.1971, Stracathro Hospital, Brechin, Angus) - 5 children:

+Amelia (b. 1906, Dundee)
*William (b. 01.03.1908, Dundee; d. 15.11.1979, Ethiebeaton, Dundee)
+Catherine (b. 26.04.1910)
+Agnes
Mary (b. 1915; d. 1925, Dundee)

*William was my Grand-Father on my Mother's side.

(+ have their family details also as my family keep in touch with them)
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Saturday 08 December 07 01:28 GMT (UK)
Hi. I have a William Stewart living in Dundee who was born about 1717 and was married to Jean Adamson. William was a slater by trade and I think he was originally from Coupar angus and may be the brother of Robert Stewart b 1728 ish Coupar. He was also a slater as was his father john [m Margaret Brown] and Johns father Robert b 1676 from Kinclaven. William and Jean are both buried at the Howff but Robert stayed in Coupar Angus. Would you have anything on this bunch? 8)
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Mizarae on Wednesday 12 December 07 14:56 GMT (UK)
Hi - I have not managed to trace as far back as 1676 - when I find the time to do more research on the Stewarts, I will keep these names and dates in mind.
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Thursday 13 December 07 01:52 GMT (UK)
no worries.  :)
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Elsleuth on Thursday 22 July 10 01:59 BST (UK)
Hi, I also have Stewarts from Logierait.  Do you link with this family? More info on GatheringGardiners.blogspot.com. 

Regards, Kent
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Thursday 22 July 10 07:23 BST (UK)
sorry, but I cant see any connection here :(
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: gordon44 on Thursday 22 July 10 19:03 BST (UK)
hi do you have Stewarts from Moulin , just above Pitlochry? my g/g grandmother Janet born here in 1852. she was a twin , sister was Ann.
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: margaret1 on Friday 23 July 10 04:16 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have Duncan Stewart b1800 married to Margaret Cram(b) from Dunblane, Perthshire  and children born in Muthill Perthshire.

Margaret :)
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: patvp1 on Saturday 24 July 10 01:17 BST (UK)
Hi Margaret - Do you have a little more info re Stewart/Cramb connection ??
Regards Patvp
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: margaret1 on Saturday 24 July 10 02:24 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,

I am descended from Duncan Stewart (father Peter) and Margaret Cramb’s daughter, Helen Stewart who was born in 1831 in Muthill Perth and died in 1832 in Musswellbrook NSW Australia and Alexander Carmichael born 1816 Crieff, Perthshire and died 1886 in Hamilton NSW Australia.

Duncan and Margaret had five children including Helen:

Catherine Stewart born 1929 Muthill and married John Carmichael (my Alex's brother). Catherine died 1904 in Camperdown NSW Australia.

Janet Stewart born c1834 Perth Scotland

Margaret Stewart born c1836 Perth Scotland

Isabella Stewart born 10 March 1842 Dunblane Perth

Margaret Cramb’s parents were Robert Cramb 1765-1832 Muthill Perth and Catherine Graham born 1759 Fowlis Wester Perth and died 1825 Muthill.

Robert Cramb’s parents were John Cramb b1737 Muthill and Helen Whyte or White.

Robert’s parents were Robert Cramb and Isobel Davidson.

I have the names and baptism dates for the siblings of those (Cramb) mentioned also, but far too many to list here.

Can you see any connection?

Margaret :)
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: patvp1 on Sunday 25 July 10 09:03 BST (UK)
Hi Margaret - No connection that I can see at the moment...most of my Cramb's were from Dunblane !!  ;D
Stewart from Kincardine, Kilmadock and Stirling.

But you never know  ;D

All the best Patvp
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: pamissearching!!! on Sunday 25 July 10 14:11 BST (UK)
Do you know much about Peter? Was he born at Coupar angus and have a brother Patrick?
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: margaret1 on Monday 26 July 10 03:35 BST (UK)
Hi Margaret - No connection that I can see at the moment...most of my Cramb's were from Dunblane !!  ;D
Stewart from Kincardine, Kilmadock and Stirling.

But you never know  ;D

All the best Patvp

Hi patvp,

My Crambs are from Muthill and Stewarts from Dunblane. If you do find a connection I will be happy to share my research.

Margaret  :)
 
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: margaret1 on Monday 26 July 10 03:36 BST (UK)
Do you know much about Peter? Was he born at Coupar angus and have a brother Patrick?

Hi Pam,

I know nothing at all about Peter, unfortunately. He is named as the father of Duncan Stewart on his birth/baptism certificate in April, 1800.

Margaret :)
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: msharawira on Monday 24 October 22 18:31 BST (UK)
Hi
Mizarae and I share a common Stewart ancestor. Her ancestor John Stewart, son of James of Wester Gourdie, and who married Amelia Jackson, is the brother of my ancestor William Stewart, born Clunie Parish 1770, son of James Stewart of Wester Gourdie. I would love to be in touch.
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Throth on Tuesday 25 October 22 23:02 BST (UK)
Gordon 44

Do you know the parents of Isabella Forbes from her death certificate?  Were the twins, Janet and Annie, illegitimate?

Throth
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 26 October 22 02:57 BST (UK)
The last response from OP (Original Poster) Mizarae...

Posted by: Mizarae
Wednesday 12 December 07 14:56 GMT (UK)

although s(he) was online 10 yrs later with no response...

Last Active:Thursday 17 August 17 14:17 BST (UK)

Annie
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: msharawira on Wednesday 26 October 22 05:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Annie.  She popped up - at least her comment did - when in desperation I googled John Stewart born Clunie, Perthshire, 1 August 1772. My several greats grandfather’s brother.

Cheers, 
Makere
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 26 October 22 05:13 BST (UK)
Hi Makere,

I posted the online details of the OP for you posters to be aware of as you may not get a reply. However, it doesn't stop others corresponding with each other on the thread.

It's also worth considering, if any of you have further queries related to this thread, you can always start a new thread & if anything relevant is on here just post a link to the info.

Annie


Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: msharawira on Saturday 12 November 22 07:46 GMT (UK)
The John Stewart born 1772 referred to below and posted by Mizrarae is my 5th gt uncle, brother of William born 1770 :

John Stewart (b. 1772, Clunie, Perth) married on 09.07.1805, Caputh, Perth to Amelia Jackson (b. 20.05.1774, Little Dunkeld, Perth) – 3 children

William (b. 20.01.1806, Caputh, Perth)
Agnes (b. 1808, Caputh, Perth)
John (b. 16 .10.09, Clunie, Perth)
*John married on 22.12.1832, Clunie, Perth to Mary Stewart (b. c. 1811, Fort Augustus/Boleskine, Inverness?) – 10 children:


Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Geoff on Tuesday 21 February 23 02:27 GMT (UK)
I have Janet CRICHTON of Alyth born 9t Jan 1811, she married Robert STEWART also of Alyth about 1830. Robert was born abt 1808 in Alyth as well.  Are they of any interest to you? 
Regards
Geoff
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: msharawira on Thursday 23 February 23 13:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Geoff
Sadly no, but thanks so much for the follow up.


Best
Makere
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: russ.ocean on Thursday 18 May 23 01:32 BST (UK)
John Stewart, born 1773 in Perthshire, Scotland.  He lived in Blairgowrie, Perthshire where his children were born.  He emigrated with four of his sons to Flamborough County, Ontario in the 1830s.  

4X great grandfather Charles was his son.  Charles married Anne Niven in Bendochy church a few miles from Blairgowrie. It is a rural area and the churchyard contains a lot of Stewarts so it is possible that our family were farmers in the area.

Charles went to Dundee where he became a mason.  There was a mason in Dundee named Alexander Stewart who may have been his Uncle and who taught him the trade.

Charles and family emigrated to Canada in 1863 joining his brothers near Hamilton.   John had died in 1856.
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Audrey63 on Wednesday 31 May 23 15:48 BST (UK)
Hi russ.ocean,

By any chance did your John Stewart from Blairgowrie also have daughters as well as the sons?  I have a John Stewart who married a May or Marjory Grant in 1799 in Blairgowrie.  I have found 3 daughters and 2 sons but of course there could have been more....the ones I have are Jean b 1800, George b 1804, Eliza b 1806, Catharine b 1808 (my connection) and Thomas Andrew b 1811.  All born in Blairgowrie.  Does anything co-incide?  Cheers
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: russ.ocean on Friday 30 June 23 01:37 BST (UK)
Hi
Sorry, that is all I’ve got so far
From the old country

Best of luck
Russ
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: jcoomes on Sunday 03 March 24 00:54 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have a Margaret Stewart born 5 August 1809 in Blair Atholl to Robert Stewart and Janet Robertson but I cannot find anything after that - she may have gone to Northern Ireland but cannot be sure. Hoping you can help.
Jill
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Throth on Sunday 03 March 24 09:08 GMT (UK)
Robert Stewart in Grennich and Janet Robertson in Achinruie, married 15 Dec 1790. Blair Atholl OPR
Children as follows:

Robert Stewart    Janet Robertson           in  Grennich   Betty   27 Oct 1791
Robert Stewart   Janet Robertson           in  Grennich   Alexander   18 Mar 1793
Robert Stewart   Jannet Robertson        in  Grennich   Jannet   24 Mar 1795
Robert Stewart   Jannet Robertson        in  Grennich   John             9 Apr 1799
Robert Stewart   Jannet Robertson        in  Grennich   Betty    21 Oct 1801
Robert Stewart   Janet Robertson         in  Grennich   Christian     8 May 1807
Robert Stewart   Janet Robertson           in  Grennich   Margaret     5 Aug 1809

Note that 'Betty' may be 'Beattie' (Beatrix)

What do you have on subsequent generations leading back to this family?

Throth (www.borenich.co.uk)

Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: AngusMcCoatup on Sunday 03 March 24 14:39 GMT (UK)
There are two Margaret Stewart deaths on SP with mother's surname Robertson and birth year of 1809 - you'd need to view the certificates to confirm or rule out if it is either of those.

1. Dunfermline in 1883 ref 424 / 73
2. Caputh in 1875 ref 337 / 11
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: jcoomes on Tuesday 05 March 24 01:36 GMT (UK)
Where is the best place to apply for death certificate if I only know possible birthdate of Stewart?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Throth on Tuesday 05 March 24 19:31 GMT (UK)
SP is ScotlandsPeople - the government department web-site.  You buy Credits - it's not too expensive.  If you know the locality of the death, approximate age or name of mother you can narrow it down.

STEWART MARGARET  73y ROBERTSON F  1883  424 / 73  DUNFERMLINE
(So her mother's maiden name was Robertson)

The Caputh one we have on file....
She was the widow of Alexander Stewart, farmer, and died at West Lodge, Caputh
She was the daughter of John Robertson and Janet Robertson (same maiden name) and the informant on the death certificate was Jessie Stewart, her daughter

Throth (borenich.co.uk)
Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: jcoomes on Thursday 07 March 24 04:11 GMT (UK)
That is great help thankyou. I can eliminate the Caputh Margaret Stewart now.

Can you possibly also help with a Donald Stewart b 1724 d 1800 - trying to track his parents? I beleive he married a Janet MacHardy Stewart.

Title: Re: Stewart families from the Perthshire areas
Post by: Throth on Thursday 07 March 24 19:28 GMT (UK)
You need to provide as much information as possible if you are wanting people to help -

Where was Donald Stewart born?
Where did he die?
Is there a headstone or an obituary?
Where and when did he get married?
Are you giving 'MacHardy' as a middle name or as a maiden name?
Are there registered birth / deaths of children?

Throth