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Hi could someone please lookup a charles william pinfold and mary ann pinfold.
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married 1860 lambeth. As i have had no luck finding them on the census years
Thank you.
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Hi Mulder
Do you have any other information such as date of birth or place of birth for the couple?
Monica
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Hi monica
No i have no idea where they were born.
only on the marriage certificate it says of full age for him and minor for her
his father was charles james pinfold and her was James Probin dec
maybe the surname maybe mispelt ie penfold
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What were the fathers occupations and also Charles, the bridgrooms occupation.
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I have only found one Charles in London who is a policeman but his wife, Mary Ann, is too old to be yours.
What were the fathers occupations and also Charles, the bridgrooms occupation.
I was going to ask this, too. It does help the people who offer to do lookups if you can give as much information as you have about the people you're looking for. It can narrow the search down and saves time and helps us to eliminate people. All sorts of things can help - for instance, knowing who the witnesses were on a marriage certificate can sometimes provide a link to other family members.
So give us everything else that's on the certificate and we'll try to find this elusive couple!
Monica
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Hi Thanks for your help.
The occupation of Charles Pinfold was Carpenter and so was his Father
The occupation of James Probin was Wheelwright. dec 1860 or before
The witnesses was William R Franklin and Ann Probin
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Found these in 1871
PENFOLD
Charles - 30 - carpenter - born London
Mary A. - 28 - born Liverpool, Lancs.
Mary A. - 11 - born Battersea
George - 5 - born Battersea
RG10/701 - Battersea
Folio 65
Page 22
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1881
PINFOLD
Charles - 40 - carpenter
Mary - 43
Ernest - 8
all down as being born in Kensington
RG11/34 - Kensington
Folio 71
Page 10
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1891
PENFOLD
Charles - 50 - carpenter
Mary - 35 - laundress - wash
Ernest - 17 - brick labourer
all down as being born in Notting Hill
also in household
Mary HARRY - 63 - wid - living on own means - born St. Luke
RG12/42 - Hammersmith
Folio 42
Page 15
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Found this family in 1841
PROBIN
William - 40 - wheelwright
Ann - 30 - not born in county
Henry - 14 - wheelwright
Adelaide - 8
Robert - 4
Charles - 2
Mary Ann - 3 months
HO 107/1061/7 - Lambeth
Folio 43
Page 14
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I am truly scratching my head here :'( :'( :'(
1841
PINFOLD
Charles - 25 - carpenter j.
Sarah - 20
Charles - 6 months
all down as born in county
HO 107/1148/6 - Aston, Birmingham
Folio 32 and 33
Pages 21 and 22
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You're on a roll, suffolksue! It has to be the same family, doesn't it? Even if they can't remember where they were born!
I can't find any sign of them in the 1861 - an extended honeymoon abroad, maybe? ;D
Just to complicate things further, the only birth for a Charles Penfold/Pinfold in 1860 that I can find is this one:
Charles Williams Pinfold, Dec qr 1840, Worcester(!), 18 - 522.
Monica
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Well Monica, do you think they might have had a distrust of ennumerators, when they came round.
;D ;D
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Even more confused now :'( :'( :'( :'(
1851
PINFOLD
Charles - 35 or 55 - carpenter - born Middleton Cheney, Northants
Sarah - 28 - born Chichester, Sussex
Charles - 10 - born Southampton, Hants.
William - 7 - born Worcester
Sarah - 9 - born Sandport, Hants
Samuel - 5 months - born Sandport
HO 107/1659 - Portsea, Hampshire
Folio 389
Page 8
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Or terribly bad memories!
I found this family in the 1851 but it seemed too ridiculous - just how mobile was this family? - but then I found them again in the 1861 in Battersea so they could be Charles parents!
Anyway, here they are -
1851 - HO107, piece 1659, folio 389, p 8.
Landport, Portsea, Hampshire.
All Pinfold.
Charles, Head, M, 35/55?, Carpenter, b. Middleton Cheney, Northants.
Sarah, Wife, M, 28, b. Chichester, Sussex.
Wiliam, Son, 7, Scholar, b. Worcester.
Charles, Son, 10, Scholar, b.Southampton.
Sarah, Daughter, 9, Scholar, b. Landport.
Samuel, Son, 3mth, b. Landport.
I wonder if William and Charles birthplaces have been mixed up? They have been written down out of age order.
1861 - RG9, piece 370, folio 209, p 35.
George Street, Battersea, Surrey.
Charles Pinfold, Head, M, 46, Carpenter, b. Northampton.
Sarah Pinfold, Wife, M, 40, b. Sussex.
William Pinfold, Son, S, 18, Carpenter, b. Southampton.
Samuel Pinfold, Son, 11, b. Portsmouth.
Anne Pinfold, Daughter, 10, b. Portsmouth.
Lucy Pinfold, Daughter, 5, b. Portsmouth.
Sarah Griffin, Grand-daughter, 3mths, b.Brighton.
What do you think?
Monica
Added - I see you beat me too it, Sue. At least I don't feel as if I'm going mad, now!
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No wonder young Charlie didn't seem to know where he was born, they didn't seem to stay on one place for long.
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hi all
thanks for all your help.