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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: .k. on Monday 23 April 07 02:10 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am searching for my great-grandparents, parents to Charles Pulford whom was born approx. 1880, from Murrindindi, Yea.Victoria. Charles was married to jemima Mainwaring Nash, also from Yea. Victoria.
regards,
S.K.
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Charles was born 1884 to Samuel Pulford and Catherine Cummins. You can search BDM records and purchase a certificate for $25.80 or an image for $17.50 from http://online.justice.vic.gov.au
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CuriousDiana,
thanks for your wonderful information.
S.K
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Hello there
Catherine PULFORD died aged 72 at Yea in 1928 reg no 17773
father Wm CUMMINS mother Catherine ORIELY
Samuel PULFORD died aged 75 at Yea in 1925 reg no 15796
father John PULFORD mother Emma unknow
regards Jenn
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by the marriage Samuel Pulford was born in Tasmania
John PULFORD aged 30 married Emma FOWLER aged 27 11/1/1847 at Bothwell Tasmania reg no 574/1847
they had the following children
John Roderick 16/2/1847 reg no 70/1847
William 3/3/1848 reg no 93/1848
Samuel 29/8/1850 reg no 161/1850
Eliza 19/1/1854 reg no 8/1854
Charles 16/1/1856 reg no 5/1856
Toree 16/1/1856 reg no 5A/1856
all born at Bothwell
regards jenn
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You can search for details of Tasmanian ancestors at the tasmanian archives
http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes
There is a convict John Pulford arriving in 1836 who could be your man. He came on a ship from London, unfortunately the Old Bailey records only go to 1834 online so not there at the minute.
There is a record for permission to marry for John Pulford and Emma Fowler, so this seems to be the couple Jenn found. John is listed as being free (if he was a convict his term may have expired). Emma arrived in 1844.
For a very reasonable fee the Tas archives will copy the records for you (or you can visit if in Tasmania & for a smaller fee copy them yourself :) ) The BDM registers to 1900 are also kept at the archives.
Seven children are listed on the Colonial families data base - the six Jenn listed & also Thomas 1849
There seem to be many grandchildren ;D Some of the children stayed in Tasmania.
Trish
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Hi Jenn and Trish
Thanks for your help at making the Tassie connection.
It's amazing watching my family expand by the minute.
regards,
s.k.
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Hi Jenn,
Thanks once again for your hard work.
Two questions: Was the dates for John's and Emma's children their birth dates or christening dates?
and I can only Find a marriage connection for a William Cummins with a Margaret Rice. I cant find a Catherine Oriely.
PS. Sam Pulford,s Mum is Emma Fowler.
Cheers
S.k.
you have started another thread with this post!!
yes it is their birth dates
yes Emma Fowlers is Samuel Pulford's mother
I can only give you the parents by the indexs and that is what it does say her mothers name is and there are are number of children deaths to William Cummins and Catherine Orilley and a number born in victoria but not catherine she may not have been registered or born coming here
the marriage of Samuel Pulford and Catherine Cummins was in 1875 reg no 3366
he was born in Tasmania and she in Castlemaine
you can get a transcipt of the marriage and that she definately tell you her parents
regards jenn
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Dear Jenn
Thanks for that information. And your speedy response to my requests.
It puts me back on the right track.
regards
s.k.
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hello
do you have all the children born to Samuel Pulfordand Catherine Cummins?
Regards Jenn
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Dear Jenn
Thanks. In answer to your last question not yet.
regards
s.k.
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To avoid further duplication of lookups ...
Other threads about this family include:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228630
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228819
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228826
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228830
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=230319
JAP
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Hi S.K.!
They are my Great Grandparents. I have a copy of their Marriage Certificate (which on the back lists all their children and their dates of birth), and was taken to visit their home (now occupied by others - I have photographs of it) and a photo of their grave in the Old Cemetery at Yea, Victoria, Australia. I have not been able to trck down any photos of them as yet.
I live in Mooroolbark, Victoria.
Warmest regards
Franklyn
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Hello Franklyn and S.K.
John Pulford is also being discussed on the suffolk at rootsweb dot com mailing list right now, and there is a possible baptism, 18th May 1817 at Mendlesham Suffolk England been posted there, John son of William and Ann. There are several possible siblings also there and it seems that Ann's maiden name might have been Stebbing. There is a William Pulford who married a Ann Stebbings on 3rd November 1802 in IGI Batch M012877. http://tinyurl.com/22qh4g I thought this marriage might be in Mendlesham but the IGI seem to indicate Sudbury. If you were able to get to an LDS centre near you again you might be able to establish whether they are your line and also whether they were of
Mendlesham parish when they married or somewhere else.
Regards
Peter
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hi Peter thanks so much for your information.
It 's a great help.
John Pulford is a bit of a dark hose to find much out about.
this is much appreciated
regards S.k
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Another Pulford has surfaced---me.My people came from Murrindindi and I was there many times as a youngster to my grand parents property. I am also interested re. any offspring of Samuel's as I suspect my grandfather to be one such.
M.P.
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I posted a message a minute ago but where it is now I know not. Perhaps this will have the same fate.I am a Puldord and my grandfather William lived at Murrindindi so I suspect he may be a son of Samuel. Anybody know?
M.P.
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Franklyn has been in touch and it turns out he is my cousin--long lost (70 years!) Samuel, son of convict John, was my grandfathers(William ) father. William's son Herbert was my dad. MP.
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I am also a decendant of John Pulford and Emma Fowler. My Grandmother was Mary Maude Pulford daughter of Samuel and Catherine (Cummins) Pulford.
Would be happy to hear from other decendants.
Regards
Broz
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Hi Broz,
I do hope MP sees your posting.
It has been some years since he visited Rootschat, but he may well get a notification about your reply.
Many here will be glad to help you where they can if you request specific assistance ;D
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Thank you for your reply. Franklin also has been in touched but I have lost his details when I bought a new computer any assistance re the family would be helpful. I know Catherine Cummins nee O'Reilly had been previously married to a man named Brindley, sadly he and several sons past away leaving only a daughter Mary.
Regards
Broz
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Hi Broz,
To get the best out of a Rchat search you need to tell all you know about your request. It is surprising where small details can lead :)
Suggestions.
How do you know about the previous marriage?
What exactly is your source and what dates and details do you have?
When and where did the BRINDLEY death occur?
What more do you know of the surviving MARY?
Sue
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Does this death in Vic offer a clue?
BRINDLEY Joseph
Father Henry
Mother Catherine REILLY
Age 5
Sex
Birth Place LONDON
Year 1854
Reg 2546
Sue
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Perhaps this is the marriage you are referring to in England.
Marriages Sep 1/4 1847 Wandsworth
Brindley Henry
vol 4 pg 517
Same page
Oriley Catherine
Sue
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A family arrival recorded on the Assisted Immigrants Shipping lists
JUL 1852 LADY MACDONALD 8 117
BRINDLEY CATHERINE 25
BRINDLEY HENRY 30
BRINDLEY JAMES 2
BRINDLEY JOSEPH 3
BRINDLEY MARY I
Sue
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Here is the likely death of the 2yr old JAMES listed on the ship
BRINDLEY James
Father: Henry
Mother:
Age 2
Place: COLLINGWOOD
Year 1852
Reg 31363
Denomination Church of England
Parish: St Stephens, Richmond
Fiche: 453
A 1854 newspaper item regarding the inquest into the death of HENRY BRINDLEY
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4803751?searchTerm="henry brindley"&searchLimits=
The death
BRINDLEY Henry
Father Unknown
Mother
Age 30
Birth Place
Death Place
Year 1854
Reg Number 2396
Sue
Sue
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Hi Broz,
Here is the link up to confirm your statement about the first marriage of CATHERINE ORILEY.
The child named MARY BRINDLEY seen on the shipping record and whom you mention as the only surviving child of HENRY and CATHERINE BRINDLEY married
BRINDLEY Mary
OHARA John
Her Birth Place LONDON
Year 1879
Reg 1887
{There were children to this couple.}
When WILLIAM CUMMINS died in 1900, he left a will.
Appplying for probate were MARY O'HARA, wife of JOHN O'HARA grocer and fruiterer.
Also
FRANCIS CUMMINS
Here is his birth
CUMMINS Frank
Father William
Mother Catherine RILEY
Place STRANGWAYS
Year 1869
Reg 12009
The will , in WILLIAM's own hand, mentions the other children of CATHERINE and WILLIAM and can be read at
http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54
Sue
Adding .....I cannot see a marriage for CATHERINE ORILEY and WILLIAM CUMMINS. I think it did not happen.
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Hello Franklyn and S.K.
John Pulford is also being discussed on the suffolk at rootsweb dot com mailing list right now, and there is a possible baptism, 18th May 1817 at Mendlesham Suffolk England been posted there, John son of William and Ann. There are several possible siblings also there and it seems that Ann's maiden name might have been Stebbing. There is a William Pulford who married a Ann Stebbings on 3rd November 1802 in IGI Batch M012877. http://tinyurl.com/22qh4g I thought this marriage might be in Mendlesham but the IGI seem to indicate Sudbury. If you were able to get to an LDS centre near you again you might be able to establish whether they are your line and also whether they were of
Mendlesham parish when they married or somewhere else.
Regards
Peter
More information on the English roots:
1. William PULFORD was born in 1783 (approx.). He married Ann STEBBINGS on 23 November 1802 in Mendlesham, Suffolk. By banns, witnesses Stebbing BLOMFIELDS, Rich'd THURSTON(?). William died in 1837. He was buried aged 54 on 18 June 1837 in Mendlesham, Suffolk.
Ann STEBBINGS, daughter of William STEBBINS ( - ) and Mary ? ( - ), was born in 1781 (approx.). She was christened on 30 September 1781 in Mendlesham, Suffolk. She died in 1846. She was buried aged 63 on 29 April 1846 in Mendlesham, Suffolk. Possible children are:
Robert PULFORD (1805?- ). Robert was born in 1805 (approx.) in Mendlesham, Suffolk. He married Betsey KERSEY on 15 October 1830 in Mendlesham, Suffolk
Isaac PULFORD (1808?- ).
John PULFORD (1817?- ).
Regards
Peter
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Dear Peter and Broz , this is just a hi and a thank you, Peter for the information. also, to everyone for the wonderful information on the oreilly clan. I will get back to you soon. Our internet will be down for a month or so
regards S.K.