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Title: Help to identify Derbys. placename - COMPLETED
Post by: Sherwood on Friday 20 April 07 23:36 BST (UK)
Hi,

On an 1861 Census, I have a birthplace originally shown as Ticknall but this is crossed out in favour of what looks like White Lee.  Opinion of local knowledge appreciated.

Thanks,

Sherwood

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Title: Re: Help to identify Derbys. placename
Post by: porkpiebaby on Saturday 21 April 07 07:39 BST (UK)
Hi Sherwood,

It definitely says White Lee.

However, I've looked on Genuki and there was no such a place. The nearest place I can imagine it may be is Willesley which isn't a million miles away.

"a rail-road from Willesley basin to Ticknall, passing Ashby-de-la-Zouch" (from Genuki)

This suggests they are close in proximity and were also linked.

What do you think?

Mandy
Title: Re: Help to identify Derbys. placename
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 21 April 07 08:35 BST (UK)
It's Whitelee - see map http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=409500&y=381500&z=3&sv=whitelee&st=3&tl=Whitelee,+Derbyshire+&searchp=newsearch.srf&mapp=newmap.srf
Title: Re: Help to identify Derbys. placename
Post by: Alvaston Lad on Sunday 22 April 07 09:45 BST (UK)
my opinion.
on the census, the birth place is often just a small hamlet or even a farm house, often misspelt so my thoughts are this, the White lees above is possably incorrect, it is close to Sparrowpit, in North Derbyshire, a fair distance from Ticknall, in South Derbyshire, so i looked in the general area around Ticknall on my 1890s OS map and found just South of Derby Hills and South-East of Ticknall,  White Leys, this looks just a farm house, i think this to be the place of Birth. spelt on the census as sounded. Interestingly on the 1871 census, John Dexter is down as born "New England", which is also a Farm House near Derby Hills as well.
Regards
Alvaston Lad.

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Title: Re: Help to identify Derbys. placename
Post by: Sherwood on Friday 27 April 07 13:58 BST (UK)
Brilliant!  White Leys it is.  Thank you Alvaston Lad, especially for the maps. I was going to ask whether anyone had heard of New England and Derby Hills, but you've answered that as well. Most grateful.

Cheers,

Sherwood.
Title: Re: Help to identify Derbys. placename - COMPLETED
Post by: Nick Dexter on Saturday 18 April 20 15:48 BST (UK)
Sherwood - I see you have Dexter in your research interests and my Dexter family farmed at both New England and White Leys.  I wonder if we might have a connection.  What is your link to the Dexters?  Best wishes.  Nick Dexter