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Title: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Friday 13 April 07 23:39 BST (UK)
can anyone help me identify my uncles uniform,i dont know if im looking at it wrong but i think hes a bit scruffy!! muddy boots,wonky belt :o
sorry i dont know how to remove his sisters from the pic,3 for the price of 1  :-X
sharon x
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Friday 13 April 07 23:59 BST (UK)
Hi Sharon

I dont think your chap is scruffy at all!!!

The 1908 pattern web belt is weighed down by his bayonet...His trousers and tunic have creases in them and the Wolsely pattern helmet has rather a fancy pugree on it.

I think he may have just come off a parade!! The parade field my well have been muddy...hence the boots!!!

The reason I say parade is that he is obsensibly smart, and only carries a bayonet. This is drill order. The picture was taken outside of the UK, because of the helmet. I would hazard Egypt???

Do you have any dates/more details on this chap??? It would be great if you could post the original pic on its own....
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:11 BST (UK)
i will give it a go,dont hold your breath lol,
all i know is that he lived in harrow,middlesex,not great i know,just thought that might give him a middlesex regiment but then im a bit fick when it comes to militaria
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:15 BST (UK)
well thats one extreme to the other isnt it!! told you not to hold your breath,want me to try again?? i dont know how to take the pictures off!!
he was born in 1899 if that is any use,sorry i dont know anymore :-\
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 14 April 07 00:16 BST (UK)
Don't worry Sharon...we'll give this a go!!

My great uncle went from Northampton/Buckinghamshire border to sign up with the Somerset Light Infantry in Taunton!!! So, residence and birthplace don't necessarily equate with Regiment joined!!!

Born 1899??  I was thinking mid 1920s actually!!

Good effort with the pic....but if you could scan the original, we might be able to see some detail on the helmet or somewhere
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:19 BST (UK)
i have come to the conclusion that ancestors are all off their rockers lol
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: millymcb on Saturday 14 April 07 00:19 BST (UK)
How's this?

Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 14 April 07 00:20 BST (UK)
i have come to the conclusion that ancestors are all off their rockers lol

We all are when it comes to military service!!!! :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:21 BST (UK)
oo you clever pants ;D at least hes better looking than his fag ash lil sister :o
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 14 April 07 00:23 BST (UK)
Oooh! Good effort Millymcb!!!

Shame we still cant get the detail though....
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:24 BST (UK)
i just noticed that hes got a ciggie in his too!! i can blame my ancestors for my disgusting habit,its not my fault its in my genes ;D
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: millymcb on Saturday 14 April 07 00:25 BST (UK)
oo you clever pants ;D at least hes better looking than his fag ash lil sister :o


You know when they say people end up looking a bit like their dogs......?

 :) :)
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:27 BST (UK)
lmao,oi thats my gt gran your talking about ;D im looking at my dogs now wondering which one i most look like :P
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: millymcb on Saturday 14 April 07 00:41 BST (UK)
And here she is...


(EDIT: I flipped her the right way round)




Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:48 BST (UK)
think we need paint shop for her face lol,i must take after the other side of my family ;D ;)
i decided i look more like my short fat collie than my big strong handsome husky!!!
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 00:56 BST (UK)
ok this pic is straight from the original,scanned at stoopid o clock :o,he was definatly born in 1899
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 14 April 07 01:04 BST (UK)
Bummer....

Sorry...Can't even make out the model of the bayonet he has...

Well....we do know mid 1920s/early thirties latest...Middle East/India.

Have you any ephemera around that may point to where he served??? Or perhaps you could contact Kentigern House to get his records....£30 I know...but would answer some questions...
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 01:08 BST (UK)
sadly i dont have anything at all apart from this pic,luckily i have just made contact with another branch of his tree,maybe they will have something more to tell,thank you so much for your help at this hour,im off to bed now,before i end up looking like my gt gran ;D
thank you again
sharon x
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: millymcb on Saturday 14 April 07 01:11 BST (UK)
And here he is ...right handed.   (I presumed gran was the wrong way round too - so did her as well - edited on original post)

Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 01:13 BST (UK)
thanks milly,story of my life,everything back 2 front lol
shaz x
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 14 April 07 01:15 BST (UK)
sadly i dont have anything at all apart from this pic,luckily i have just made contact with another branch of his tree,maybe they will have something more to tell,thank you so much for your help at this hour,im off to bed now,before i end up looking like my gt gran ;D
thank you again
sharon x

Bad hair day then???? ;D
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Saturday 14 April 07 01:18 BST (UK)
lol,im more worried about the bad face day  :o ;D
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 14 April 07 01:25 BST (UK)
Sorry...Being a complete saddo at this time of night/morning...(billy no mates)

Have been looking at his boots....they look like they have no toe caps...that means he could be younger than I first thought...could be 1917/8....

Curiouser and curiouser....

If he was discharged after 1922 Kentigern House, Historical Disclosures Section would be the way forward....
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: harribobs on Sunday 15 April 07 23:48 BST (UK)
looking at his uniform a couple of things that stick out

the uniform is late WW1 economy issue (no pleats in top pockets),

there are no collar dogs (prior 1922),

he's wearing khaki service dress with a tropical helmet, I think he has just arrived in the middle east and not been kitted out properly yet

the bayonet is very long, longer than the 1917 patt issue, i know the territorials used older equipment until being resupplied in france, I am not sure when the 1917 bayonet was updated but I don't think it was undated by a longer model

no medal ribbons visable

my tupenneth

chris
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: harribobs on Tuesday 17 April 07 16:37 BST (UK)
just to show you the difference between a tropical uniform and standard SDs

(http://harribobs.smugmug.com/photos/130766035-M.jpg)
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 17 April 07 20:02 BST (UK)
And a slightly later view....

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l102/scrimnet/kd1.jpg)
Title: Re: yet another uniform to identify!
Post by: candyflossyum on Tuesday 17 April 07 20:06 BST (UK)
wonder why the gent on the front row,second from the left has his strap thingy across his chest the wrong way to everyone else??
excuse the strap thingy comment,i know nothing about uniforms apart from richard gere looks good in one ;D