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Hello
Just a quick query if anyone can clear it up or offer some advice, i am currently using Roots Magic as my genealogy software, the problem i am finding is using the Pedigree view, in that all i can see are the parents for each line of decendants, i have entered in numerous children/marriages for the siblings under the family view but its getting a little difficult to keep track of who belongs where.
Is there a way i can see all the children and marriages in a tree style view, or any software that allows me to view them that way to make it easier follow
many thanks in advance
Andrew
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Hi Andrew
Does RootsMagic do "descendent charts", that would show siblings, too.
Basically they are pedigree charts, starting at "the other end"
Bob
ps. an example here, from the Legacy Report Generator:
<pre>
<b>1-Menachem Menish Margolioth b. 1740, d. 1801</b>
+N.N. Rabinowitz
|---2-Elyakim Getzel Margolioth b. 1765, d. 1824
| +Gitl Katz Lopatiner b. 1780, d. 1825
| |---3-Moses Margolioth b. ~1804, Brody
| +Dwory / Dworke N.N. b. , Brody
| |---4-Eliakim Getzel Margolioth b. 1827, Brody
| +Sheindel Rabinowitz b. 1828, Krakow
| |---5-Moritz / Maurycy / Moszes Margulies b. 1849, Krakau, Poland,
| | d. 1921, Katowitz
| +Clara Sussman b. 1852, Brody, d. 1932, Vienna, Austria
| |---6-Anna Margulies d. 1933
| |---6-Isador Margulies b. 15 Jan 1871
| |---6-Julius Margulies
| |---6-Siegmund Margulies
| |---6-Bella Margulies
| |---6-Emil Margulies b. 16 Jul 1877
| |---6-Hanns Margulies b. 27 Nov 1889, Sosnowice,
| | (Russian-)Poland, d. 30 Mar 1960, London, England
| | +Maria Remenyi b. 3 May 1885, Bratislava, d. 1947
| | +Minna Malecek b. 2 Jun 1899, Boloslowiec (Bunzlau),
| | Poland, d. 31 May 1995, London, England
| |---6-Heinrich Margulies b. 1890
|---2-Efraim Salman Margolioth b. 1760, d. 1828
| +N.N. Sirkin
| +N.N. Ginsburg
| +N.N. Auerbach
|---2-Chayim Mordecai Margolioth b. 1780, d. 1820
|---2-Yakov Margolioth
|---2-Alexander Sender Margolioth
</pre>
more examples on my website http://www.margulies-chronicles.com/i-trees.php
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Yes that's the views i'm struggling with Bob, i would like all that info but in the style you have your pedigree charts, obviously there will have to be extra boxes for the children and who they married and their children etc, but i imagine thats how a proper family tree should look once completed and printed out ?
or is it ? :)
cheers
Andrew
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Hi Andrew,
Funnily enough, when I created my pedigree charts, I wondered about adding siblings.
I left it for now, as the charts are created automatically from a GEDCOM, and adding siblings would have been creating more work for me (as far as the programming is concerned).
I thought to have it like the sketch below, but then later I thought, the first box in the chain should include all the siblings, with the "star of the show" in bold type ...
Maybe one day, I will have a go at programming it.
Bob
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A pedigree chart is exactly that, one persons pedigree, by it's very nature it will not include siblings.
I use Generations and that has the option when, having created a descendant chart, you can switch it to a waterfall or left to right chart, the latter has the appearance of a pedigree chart, but includes all the siblings. I don't know if Roots Magic has this option.
Jebber
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Yes thats exactly the type of chart i would like to see Bob, the software i'm looking at dose not seem to have that type of feature though.
Just going to check out the recommendation from Jebber of Generations, thanks for the info both :)
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Thanks Andrew,
There is a "hand-made" variation of that idea here, turned counter-clockwise by 90 degrees.
http://www.margulies-chronicles.com/ag/_kennedy/fam-kenn-tree-ag.php
but that was created using HTML for everything, and it took hours.
(just for one tree, and there are five of them, plus 3 variations for each family !!!!)
And although I am very thankful to Tati for finding so many NORTON and CHAMPION ancestors at the weekend, I dread the thought of having to extend the relevant trees .....
Maybe I could think of a way to program that format, too ?? ;D ;D
But in the meantime, just keep looking ... there must be a program somewhere,
that will deliver it exactly how how you want it.
Bob
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You can view a chart, in Rootsmagic, I think like you would want.
Rm> Reports>Charts>WallCharts
or
Rm>Reports>Charts>BoxCharts> choose Ancestors or Descendants view
or
you can have a full descendancy report (similar to Bobs)
Rm>Reports>Narrative> choose option Descendancy
if you have a specific query try their help technical board, faq, quite helpful.
I don't have the latest version but apparently there are better chart options in that.
There is also a program called Tree Draw (at cost) which you can have a trial of for free, you could try that?
At the moment I'm thinking of switching to Family historian which also has a free trial, and has better charting (I think).
newbie :)
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Here is another idea. I have always wanted to try and do this myself...one day...
Scroll down to: Reply 22
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24433.15.html
Gemmac
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The Master Genealogist (see http://www.whollygenes.com/ ) is a very powerful program which has an appropriately powerful chart-making utility with the trademark Visual Chartform. There is a full product description on the Wholly Genes site, a guided tour, and provision for a 30-day free trial.
However, for people who don't wish to purchase, and/or swap over to, a new program, WhollyGenes markets a product called Family Tree SuperTools for use with other family history software. There is a full product description of FTST on the WhollyGenes site.
Among other features, FTST includes the chart-making facility Visual Chartform and therefore you can make charts from the data in your own program.
Here is the blurb from the WhollyGenes site about the charting facilities of FTST:
"Family Tree SuperTools includes an integrated copy of Visual Chartform™, the powerful chart-making utility. Create ancestor, descendant box, and hourglass charts in any orientation. Create fan charts from a small segment up to full-circle in any orientation.
Click-n-drag any object on a box chart, edit text/titles, rotate boxes, add additional images or boxes, draw additional connection lines, etc. You can modify the properties of objects individually or in groups and control their layering, grouping, etc. Editing features include any-level zoom, snap to grid, skip page breaks, and much more. "
Regards,
JAP