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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dunbartonshire => Topic started by: JenClark on Sunday 08 April 07 12:30 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I have just been looking at some OPR for my rellies that come from Dunbartonshire. I found a marriage and a few christenings as follows in Bonhill, but have no idea where the places they mention are??
"Robert McIntyre in Lumbrane came this day (9th December 1786) and intimate his purpose of marriage with Isobel Craig at the Kirkburn desiring the same may be published in the Kirk in Bonhill."
It does not state both of this parish, so are these places (Lumbrane and Kirkburn) in Bonhill or elsewhere?
Also found on Scotland's people a baptism for a Robert McIntyre in 1762 Bonhill, but when I looked at the actual image it showed this:
14 Jun 1762 ------- son to Will McIntyre and Ch Lindsay in Gaste Ford
So no name actually on the record.....how do they have it enumerated as Robert??? Do they know something I don't??? I would love it to be him as the naming pattern suits this couple, but how can I ever be sure?
I looked at a sibling too:
William lawful son to William McIntyre and Christian Lindsay in Gastiford born the 10th was baptised the 11th instant (1772).
Much more info, isn't it typical!! But where is Gaste ford or Gastiford??
Any info would be greatly appreciated :)
Jenny
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don't know personally but try clydebank.com good luck
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Hi hegy,
Had a look at Clydebank.com but it seems not to exist anymore :-\ What is the actual web address?
I had a general search around on Clydebank sites but nothing on my placenames, perhaps they were farms or property names? Seems doubtful for my lot as they were printers not farmers though..
So on with the search ::)
Jenny
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sorry, the clydebankstory,com
good hunting!!!
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Hi
I used to live not far from Bonhill but have never heard of either of these places. There is the registry office in Helensburgh which may be to help as it's been there since late 1800's.
Also heading out from Bonhill towards Stirling there are lots of little villages so it could have been on of these and maybe the names were changed.
Not sure if this info will help
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Thanks Mrsscouser,
I will check out the Helensburgh registry office, I assume that the names may have changed or the areas/villiages almagamated into other places :-\
Who knows, but I am heading to Bonhill next weekend and wanted to try and visit if I could...
Jenny
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Hi
I too live close to Bonhill and have heard of neither. I did google Lumbrane and there is an entry for Lumbrane Distillary, Dunbartonshire established in 1825 by Archibald Lindsay. There is also a Kirkburn Road in Strathblane. A good place to try would be the Family History Section in Dumbarton Library they are very helpful. Tel No: 01389 733273. E-mail: dumbarton.local.history@west-dunbarton.gov.uk
This e-mail contact is for local history inquiries only, relating to the Dumbarton and Vale of Leven area. Good-Luck
Liz
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Hi Liz,
Yep saw the entry for Lumbrane Distillery on google too. I think I will take your advice and e-mail the local history section of the Dunbarton Library.
Hopefully they can shed some light on this...
Jenny
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I think Lumbrane should read Linnbrane, which apparently is now in Alexandria. In the 1881 Census it was in Enumeration District 6, Bonhill Parish (#493). Other addresses within district 6 were Waterside, Ferryfield, Susannah St, Cross Row and Alexander St (even street numbers only). The 1881 LDS UK Census also has an address as Linnharne Ter, Alexander St; that probably should read Linnbarne Terrace. Looking at MultiMap.com, Alexander and Susannah Streets still exist, near Main and Bank Street. The only things I found on Google were the Leven at Linnbrane flow monitoring station and the Linnbrane Hole (see http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/hiflowsuk/stations/85001/ and http://www.west-dunbarton.gov.uk/library/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=3764, which has a picture of the Alexandria works).
As for Kirkburn, the only occurrence indexed in the 1881 UK Census CD was for somebody living in Falkirk but born in Kirkburn, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. Maybe "at the Kirkburn" should be read literally; an outdoor ceremony by a stream near the church.
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Hi jmgrgr,
I think you are right about the spelling for Lumbrane being Linnbrane, as I got the following response from the Dunbarton Local History society:
Dear Jenny,
Thanks for your e-mail. Of the three place names you mention, only Lumbrane would be recognised by someone today. If you look at the attached map I'll go through the names, starting in the north with Lumbrance/Linnbrane. This is on the west bank of the River Leven, next to the railway line. There is a deep hole gouged out by Ice Age boulders at the sharp bend in the river. In the medieval period there was a small monastery here, under Paisley Abbey, and the monks had the salmon fishing rights.
The Kirkburn was the burn that came down off the moors on the east bank of the river and followed the course of Burn Street into the river Leven, maybe 100 yards to the north of the parish church of Bonhill. The burn has now been covered over, but the quarry with waterfall above it is quite an impressive sight. Houses round the church in the 18th century and earlier were described as being at the Kirkton, and those to the north at the Kirkburn.
Gastyford is another name that died out in the 18th century. As far as I can work out it was somewhere near the Poachy Glen on the Millburn Burn on the west bank. It has always sounded spectral and spooky to me. Whether it was once a ford I do not know. The Poachy Glen as you can see from the map is quite steep-sided, maybe a 100 foot in height, I think. Please tell me if I am wrong.
Hope this enhances your day.
Graham Hopner
All I can say is Graham certainly did brighten my day ;D
Thanks so much to everyone else too, as I never would have found these places without your help!
I am looking forward to visiting Bonhill this weekend, hope the weather holds as it was gorgeous today ;)
Jenny
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I think that the place names you are looking for might be the names of farms or houses they either lived or work at, have you looked at the old-map.co.uk site, quiet often they give the names of houses and farms.
Just a thought, as I have found that to be the case when I have looked.
good luck.