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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Janoz on Sunday 01 April 07 14:38 BST (UK)
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1871 Census Lookup please
I would really appreciate any info on
George and Adelaide HOPKINS living in St Pancras, London with
Sons George 1869, Edward 1870, infant (Joseph or Thomas)
Thanks for your consideration
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1871 Pancras Marylebone
9 granby Mews
George Hopkins 25 cab proprietor and driver
Adelaide Hopkins 23
George 2
Edward 1
Unnamed 1 week
All born St pancras
Fizzy
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Hi Fizzy
Thanks for your efforts. I appreciate your help.
Just to be clear - does it say everyone was born in Pancras or just the children?
Thnks again
Anita
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The reference for the 1871 census entry was
RG10 201 folio 56
They were all born Middlesex the enumerator's " ditto was not continued for St. Pancras from the family above, only for Middlesex.
The unnamed child was a boy, plus there was one servant who was a horsekeeper - James Solomons 17 born Middlesex.
Marriages Jun 1867
HOPKINS George Clerkenwell 1b 855
Solomons Adelaide Alicia Clerkenwell 1b 855
Have you accessed the details of their fathers from the marriage certificate?
Regards
Valda
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Hi Valda
Thanks for the extra info. The servant James may be a brother of Adelaide's. Time will tell I suppose.
The marriage is the right one though I don't have the certificate.
George is the son of Job (Birmingham)
Adelaide may be the daughter of Henry but that would make her born 1841 not 1848. It's a big difference. I was hoping that I might learn more about her birth from the census.
Still, I'm not going to hold it against a lady for lying about her age, eh?
Many thanks
Anita
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Anita
Lambeth was in Surrey not Middlesex, there is the age difference and the added second name - none of this precludes it being the same woman but it means you really do need the marriage certificate to eliminate or confirm it is the same woman. Unless you have the family on the 1861 census (can't see them on any census or in FreeBMD - some quite distinctive names like Leonora) to confirm a younger brother called James or a later census after 1871 which gives more detail of Adelaide's birth.
Births Mar 1841
SOLOMONS Adelaide Lambeth 4 319
There are plenty of candidates for a George Hopkins born circa 1846 Middlesex on earlier censuses but I can't see one of the right age with a father called Job. I can't see any Job Hopkins in the London/Middlesex area. Birmingham is over a 100 miles from London.
Regards
Valda
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Hi Valda
You've certainly provided me with heaps of info an food for thought. Should keep me going for ages.
I only have a small window for this family
Married 1867
Emmigrated to NZ 1874.
I have George HOPKINS with his family in 1861
Father Thomas (son of Job-sorry) and mother Margaret Isabella (nee BIDWELL)
born abt 1847 in London City
Living at St Mary Woolchurch Middlesex
Nothing of the Solomons so far except that she was apparently connected to solicitors Solomons and Solomons, London and had her 12th child in 1890. 1848 fits better for that I think.
Thanks for all your help. I am now fuelled to look in further areas
Cheers
Anita
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MARGARET ISABELLA BIDWELL
THOMAS HOPKINS
Marriage: 20 MAY 1843 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London
What evidence do you have that these were the George you are interested in - his parents?
1851 census HO107 1530 folio 258
14 Lombard Street St Mary Woolnoth Middlesex
Thomas Hopkin 33 Portsmouth, Hampshire, Head Married Messenger
Margeret I Hopkin 33 Datchet, Buckinghamshire, Wife Married
Jesse M Hopkin 7 City Road, Middlesex, Daughter
Henry F Hopkin 5 Cripplegate, Middlesex, Son
George Hopkin 4 Lombard St, Middlesex, Son
Louisa H Hopkins 2 Lombard St, Middlesex, Daughter
Joseph W Hopkins 11 wk or mths Lombard St, Middlesex, Son
Hampshire is further south than London and therefore even further away from Birmingham. Thomas gives his birthplace as Havant Hampshire on the 1861 census. Margaret's birth is in Datchet on both censuses.
Regards
Valda
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Hi there,
I know that you asked the question a few years ago about Adelaide and George Hopkins whom married in London. I have done a lot of research on this family tree as the family left England for New Zealand where Percy Hopkins was born (whom is my great grandfather).
I have the marriage certificate for the couple showing George Hopkins at the time of marriage was a Fishing Rod Maker living in Anne Street with Adelaide. The father of George is showing as George Thomas Hopkins whom was a Brush Maker. The father of Adelaide was Nathaniel Solomons.
The Solomons are quite a famous Jewish family, with lots of distinguished ancestors. I have got back to the marriage with Phoebe de Metz whom was born in Leyden, Netherlands.
If you have any further information that you could pass onto me it would be appreciated or if i can help please let me know.
I am finding it difficult to work out which George Hopkins is the right Hopkins whom married Adelaide in the 1851 census.
Kind Regards
Kelly
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Hi Kelly
I think that George 1846 was in Clerkenwell with his mother Emma in 1851 as this is the house where his father died. 12 Meredith St. Clerkenwell, Finsbury District.
Class: HO107; Piece: 1519; Folio: 245; Page: 42; GSU roll: 87853.
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George Thomas HOPKINS (b.abt 1822;d.28 Jan 1851) married 9 Mar 1845 Clerkenwell MDX, Emma Roberts (b.abt 1826)
His mother was Mary Ann (b.abt 1791) Birmingham WAR
Brother James b.abt 1817
Sister Elizabeth b.abt 1827 m. ANDREWS
I'm happy to share -what do you need
Cheers
Jan
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The reference for the 1871 census entry was
RG10 201 folio 56
They were all born Middlesex the enumerator's " ditto was not continued for St. Pancras from the family above, only for Middlesex.
The unnamed child was a boy, plus there was one servant who was a horsekeeper - James Solomons 17 born Middlesex.
Marriages Jun 1867
HOPKINS George Clerkenwell 1b 855
Solomons Adelaide Alicia Clerkenwell 1b 855
Have you accessed the details of their fathers from the marriage certificate?
Regards
Valda
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Hi, are you still looking for Adelaide Alicia Solomons/Hopkins. She is my great great grandmother. If you are post here and I will respond.
Reggie1
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Hi Reggie1
Thanks for your interest. I have done a lot of work on this family since my original post. Happy to share/compare my findings with you.
Currently I'm working on DAWBIN. Do you also have that family connection?
Cheers
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Hi again Janoz? I'm looking at my grandmother's marriage certificate (on my mothers side). It tells me that William Frederick Hopkins (age 31) married Agnes May Bushby (age 19) in 1914 in Taoroa (NZ). That William's father was George Hopkins (farmer) and mother Adelaide Alicia Hopkins (nee Solomons) and Agnes' father was Thomas Bushby and mother Bessie Jane Bushby (nee Dawbin).
Agnes went on to have 4 daughters (Edith/Thelma/Patricia/Trimp?. Thelma Bateson (nee Hopkins) was my mother. She died 2 years ago aged 94. She was the last one. I'm sorry she's not here for you as she loved telling us about the family tree. I'm afraid I'm not that much into it. It was by accident that I came across this site. Anyway, could you tell me where you fit into the family?
Regards
Reggie
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Hi folks,
Just wondering if any of you are still on here. My partner also has George & Adelaide as gr great grandparents, hoping to make contact.
Regards
Rach