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Title: William Barnwell
Post by: JamesW on Thursday 29 March 07 23:31 BST (UK)
I am looking for information about a William Barnwell who is listed in a Griffith's valuation in this county.I forget the name of the townland.
                     Thank You
                         Jim
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 21 October 07 02:45 BST (UK)
I am looking for information about a William Barnwell who is listed in a Griffith's valuation in this county.I forget the name of the townland.
                     Thank You
                         Jim

Hi Jim,

Do you know the denomination of the Barnwell family?

William Barnwell, Drumaclan, Kilmore. Monaghan. The Valuation took place in the county 1858-60.

Christopher
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: JamesW on Thursday 25 October 07 16:35 BST (UK)
Christopher;
                     I have been wondering if this William is my great great grandfather-before he left Ireland about 1851.His wife's name is Margaret.
                Catholic is the demonination.
                             Thank You
                                   James
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: Richardj on Saturday 01 December 07 22:37 GMT (UK)
Jim

I suspect, but cannot prove, that the William Barnwell at Drumaclan did end up in County Durham but in Jarrow not Bishop Auckland.  He arrived somewhere after 1861 and before 1869.

The one in Jarrow had a sister called Catherine who married a Patrick Maguire and their first known son was born at Kilmore on 12 February 1864. 

All the known brothers and sisters were Catholic and ended up on Tyneside.  There is a rather tenuous link in the 1950's to Bishop Auckland, but this would appear to be coincidental.  No dates of birth or christenings are known for any of them.

Their parents were Samuel Barnwell (in the army and dead sometime before 20 October 1856) and Catherine Milligan who also ended up in Jarrow by 1871.  Nothing else is known about them.

I assume you are looking for the one that was married to Margaret Macnamee and lived in Bishop Auckland.

Richard
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: JamesW on Monday 03 December 07 19:28 GMT (UK)
Richard;
             Thank You for this information.I had been wondering if the Barnwell's in Jarrow/Durham were related to the Barnwell's in Bishop Auckland.
               I believe the Bishop Auckland family is my family.I cannot get further back than Bishop Auckland via birth certificates-yet cencuc says William and Margaret were from Ireland.
                                Thank You Again !
                                     Jim
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: JamesW on Monday 03 December 07 19:31 GMT (UK)
Oops! That should read Census.
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: Richardj on Tuesday 04 December 07 21:24 GMT (UK)
Jim

There is another group by the name BARNWELL in County Durham based in South Shields.  These are apparently unrelated to either of the two groups we are looking at and appear to come from Yorkshire.

Richard
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: JamesW on Tuesday 11 December 07 17:37 GMT (UK)
Richard;
              I have noticed that family on the 1881 census and through freebmd.
I have ordered all the birth certificates for my Great grandfather and his brothers and sisters.It seems to me that my GG grandfather had at least one brother marry in Bishop Auckland as well as two sisters.I think my GGG grandmother may of died in B.A.,too.
               The family at Condon Grange are related,too.Im not sure where some of my great grandfathers younger brothers moved to after 1901.
                Do you know if your William  had any grandsons in the Durham Light Infantry during WW1?
                         Thanks
                           Jim
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: topcat2 on Sunday 21 June 09 18:11 BST (UK)
While searching for relatives named CONDON in Bishop Auckland, I found your thread.

Bishop Auckland has a Coundon Grange, not a Condon Grange.

Colin
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: andreafrost on Friday 09 December 11 15:26 GMT (UK)
Would any of your Condon family include a Frederick Condon born 1882?
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: topcat2 on Sunday 11 December 11 06:38 GMT (UK)
Yes, Siblings and Ancestors.
Possibly some photos.

Sending PM.

Regards Colin
Title: Re: William Barnwell
Post by: Richardj on Tuesday 10 January 12 14:57 GMT (UK)
Referring back to the original query in this thread, the William Barnwell at Drumaclan, Kilmore did indeed end up at Jarrow with some of his brothers and sisters and his mother.  This is shown in the 1911 Census when his daughter Mary Ann (born about 1859) declares her birthplace as Drumaclan, Monaghan.

Richard