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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Meath => Topic started by: mnbarrett on Thursday 29 March 07 09:58 BST (UK)
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Hi
Can anyone help me with some information about Kilbride in Meath. I have recently found out a relative was from there. I have looked on google earth, and it seems to be a very small town.
Does anyone know what parish I should look up etc for to try and find further details of the family. I would be looking for a birth about 1840.
Thanks
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Hello
There are two Kilbride townlands in County Meath.
(1) Kilbride, Barony of Morgallion.Civil parish Nobber.Electoral Division Nobber.
(2) Kilbride, Barony of Upper Navan. Civil parish Moymet. Electoral Division Kilbride.
Kilbride in The Barony of Upper Navan is the largest of the two.
Best Regards,
The Wanderer.
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Hi
Can anyone help me with some information about Kilbride in Meath. I have recently found out a relative was from there. I have looked on google earth, and it seems to be a very small town.
Does anyone know what parish I should look up etc for to try and find further details of the family. I would be looking for a birth about 1840.
Thanks
Hiya mnbarrett,
What's the surname of your ancestor from Kilbride ??? Your list of people that you are researching shows that they all come from Dublin South City. It makes no mention of Co. Meath.
Chris
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hi christopher,
the name is Thomas Barrett, I just recently found out he was a member of the Dublin Metropolitan Police, born abt 1848 in Kilbride, from a death entry in the Freeman's Journal.
As per my details, I am used to researching Dublin City, and I could do with any help or advice about Kilbride / Meath sources.
Thanks,
Michelle.
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Michelle,
Griffiths Valuation has 16 listings of Barretts living in Co. Meath but none in the parish of Kilbride.
There is only one Thomas Barrett and he was in Athboy.
RonnieG
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Michelle,
It would be worthwhile following up on his DMP record which would give you more details on him.
http://www.esatclear.ie/~ric/DMPpage1.html
This website is a good place to start
RonnieG
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Hi Ronnie,
Thanks for that. I have been in touch with Dublin Castle, several times, and they keep forgetting to attach the record. So I am waiting for that, I have no idea if Thomas died in the line of duty, he was 26 when he died, and was stationed in the barracks at 42 Manor Street in Smithfield. I can't wait to find out more.
To make it even more complicated, the librarian in Pearse Library helped us figure out that he does have an RIC number but it's higher than expected as he was DMP and it was converted in 1922. But I have found out that he was awarded the King's Police Medal in 1901, after his death in 1873, but i haven't been able to find out anything else about that.
All help appreciated, thanks.
Michelle.
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Michelle,
That does confuse me. As I understand it, the registers for the RIC and DMP were separate as they were two distinct forces. It was only after 1922 that both forces were merged into the present day Garda Siochana.
I would have been surprised to find Thomas in both registers unless he left one force to join the other.
Perhaps things will be clearer when you eventually get that attachment/record.
RonnieG
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Hi Ronnie
This is where I got the information that the librarian helped me find.
"Excerpts taken from the book ‘A complete alphabetical list of the DMP by Jim Herlihy)
Between 30th april and 30 Aug 1922, 30 members of theDMP were transferred to the RIC and were awarded RIC Pensions. In addition to their DMP ones. Seven of them were holders of the kings police medal for gallantry ; Bruton, Devon, Kelly, Healy, Barrett, Bennett and Denis."
So when we looked up my Thomas Barrett, an exerpt from the book below we found why he was given the medal.
"Thomas Barrett (67b) DMP Constable 7499, Born in Kilbride, Co Meath.
“On 25th April Constable Barrett showed conspicuous bravery in arresting and disarming a man who was treatening to shoot 2 soldiers “ PRO Ho45/10954/306338 L.G. Jan 1917"
Unfourtunatly when I looked for his death record in the BMD he was not listed, so thats when I looked up the freemans journal and found his death recorded there.
With all this good weather I have been stuck in the garden to take a little break from all the family searching, but I think I will have to try and go in to the library soon to try find out more.
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Michelle,
That explains the dual registration - I thought it was unusual.
He certainly seems to have made an impression in his life and has left a trail of records for you to find.
But, I'm afraid I'm totally confused with the dates in your previous posts.
Can you put them in order?
RonnieG
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Hiya
So far what I know is
Thomas Barrett was born about 1848
He married on 9th Feb 1873
He died on 22 Feb 1873.
From the books they said it was on the "25th of april" when he did the brave act.
But he wasnt awarded the medal until 1901, and then his record from the DMP was transfered to the RIC between 30th april and 30 Aug 1922.
Where I got Kilbride from was the death notice in the freemans journal which said he was born in kilbride, and that he was 26 when he died.
Its all very confusing, when we were looking for him in the records we were looking for someone who was an ric member before 1873, as from other records (his marriage) I knew he was a police man. But then it turned out that he was only given his reference number in 1922 so it didnt match up to where i was looking for him.
Hope this helps