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Hi
I am trying to find information about Ernest Hamilton Mitchell who married Gertrude May Siegmann (Port Pirie,1925). He may have had a brother John Rankine Mitchell who married Lois Siegmann in Port Pirie 1915.
Regard Jackhammer
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name does not ring a bell
actually the Mitchell relation is really WaltonMitchell from USA
THEY just cut short to Mitchell I have no info on my Mitchell
so do not know if he had brothers or not came from New York
name was just Charles .......
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Hi countryozy
thanks for the reply, Ernest Hamilton Mitchell is buried in Port Pirie but is possibly from different ancestry to the WaltonMitchells if thre name is not familiar to you. He was born about 1898 but unknown location.
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Hi
Had a quick look at SA Marriages and found the following
Marriages
19 Dec 1885
LANGSFORD Charles S 22 Father Thomas LANGSFORD to
SIEGMANN Mary S 21 Father John DAVID
Residence of groom, Port Augusta Ref Fro 145/111
27 Jan 1915
MITCHELL John Rankin S 23 Father James MITCHELL to
SIEGMANN Lois S 20 Father John David SIEGMANN
Methodis Manse, Port Pirie Ref Cla 262/208
7 Apr 1925
ROBINSON Richard Henry 23 S Father Alfred Henry ROBINSON to
SIEGMANN Harriett Gertrude May 21 S Father John David SIEGMANN
Church of Christ Chapel, Port Pirie Ref Cla 303/70
This last marriage is the only SIEGMANN marriage in Port Pirie for 1925.
Hope this is of some help.
Cando
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Hi - found the following
Marriage 26 May 1923
MITCHELL Ernest Hamilton 26 S Father William Melville MITCHELL to
SIEGMANN Gertrude May 21 S Father George Leonard SEIGMANN
St Pauls Church, Port Pirie Ref Cla 295/753
Cheers
Cando
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Hi jackhammer,
These do not appear to be brothers and sisters.
MITCHELL John Rankin 23 Single Father James MITCHELL = SIEGMANN Lois 20 Single Father John David Seigmann 1 Jan 1915 Methodist Manse Port Pirie Dist Cla 262/208
MITCHELL Ernest Hamilton 26 Single Father William Melville MITCHELL = SEIGMANN Gertrude May 21 Single Father George Leonard SEIGMANN 26 May 1923 St Pauls Church Port Pirie Dist Cla 295/753
I am sorry to say I see no births for either John Rankin or Ernest Hamilton MITCHELL in SA
Cheers Kris :D
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There is a digital record for John Rankin MITCHELL available on
http://www.naa.gov.au/default.html
His birth is listed as Blackpool Lancashire.
Mitchell John Rankin born Mar 1/4 1893 Fylde 8e 711.
He appears in Blackpool with his family in 1901 census. His parents were born in Scotland if that helps
RG13/3970 Folio 139 Page 10
51 High Street
Blackpool Lancs
MITCHELL James Head 43 Mar b Scotland Stableman and Cab Driver
MITCHELL Elizabeth Wife 39 Mar b Scotland Company House Keeper
MITCHELL John Son 8 b Blackpool
MITCHELL Elizabeth Dau 5 b Blackpool
MITCHELL William Son 4 b Blackpool
MITCHELL Robert Son 1 b Blackpool
+ a heap of Lodgers
Can't see much at all on Ernest Hamilton MITCHELL
If you havn't seen it I do see he is buried at Pt Pirie along with others of interest including Gertrude and William Melville MITCHELL
http://www.pirie.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=130
Cheers Kris :D
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Here are some births for John Rankin & Lois Mitchell:-
4.9.1915 - Alice Elizabeth Mitchell born Pt Pirie Bk 965 Pg415
18.12.1917 - Mervyn Randal born Adelaide Bk10A Pg301
9.2.1920 - Peggy Mavis born Kent Town Bk50A Pg204
5.9.1926 - Betty Audrey born Norwood Bk178A Pg422
Regards, Sashar
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Thank you all for your help and for the information.
Ernest Hamilton Mitchell is the one I am trying to trace along with his father William Melville and it is unfortunate that there seems to be no records on their origin,
Thanks again
Kind regards jackhammer.
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Hi jackhammer,
I think you need those death certs. Both Ernest and William Melville died at times when extra information will be contained on those certs including place of birth. See
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,158660.0.html
William Melville MITCHELL died 30 Jun 1914 Pt Pirie Dist Cla Symbol S 385 260 aged 57 Years Rel not recorded
Ernest was buried 9 Oct 1958 (You will need ref to order, sorry I can't provide that - there are some members who will able to provide the details)
Could be well worth there money ;)
Good Luck..........Cheers Kris :D
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Hi Krisesjoint
Thanks for your reply, I think you are probably right about getting the death certificates, it seems the best way.
Regards jackhammer
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William Melville Mitchell was my great grandfather, he died in Port Pirie, South Australia in 1914 as stated. Ernest Hamilton was his son as was Cyril Harcourt, Roy, John Turner, Sidney, Albert, Harry and Charles all from a first marriage and then my own grandfather Stanley Harold Victor Mitchell of Williams second marriage to Margaret Mary Smith. My grandfather was only three years old when William was run over by a horse and dray. I was only familiar with Cyril (never married), John(Jack) never married, Charles married Mona Horne, Ernest married Gertrude Siegmann, Roy married Cicily Smith, the other brothers Albert married Olga Grocke, Harry married Mavis Mckenzie, Sidney never married. My grandfather married Stella Florence Sandery Hope this helps Cheers Myka
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Hi Myka
Thanks for your information about William Melville Mitchell and the interesting part about his untimely death. Very much appreciated
Regards jackhammer
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Hi Jackhammer
This MITCHELL family was in NSW mostly at Wentworth. Parents named William and Anna.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births
Rhonda
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Rhonda May
Thanks very much Rhonda, well spotted. I will investigate the Wentworth district on the NSW records. A William registered Bathurst 1856 could be of interest too. Age would be right.
Regards jackhammer
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Hi Myka,
Just realised your Roy Mitchell m. Cecily SMITH is part of my family tree.
Cecily/Cicely was a sister to my GGrandmother Mary (May) Lovell SMITH.
I sent you a private message but you have to post 2 more messages for your private email to work.
Hope to hear from you,
Sashar
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So pleased i could be of help to some in regards to William Mitchell, also Cicely Smith who has family still here in Port Pirie. I note you mention NSW links for William Melville Mitchell, my Aunty Collene says the family was originally from New South and she believes that William may have trained horses.
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I have in my notes that Robert Roy MITCHELL was born 1900 at Wyndham nr Pooncairie NSW, father was William.
That's all I had which is why I didn't wake up for a while about the connection until I saw Cicely SMITH's name in your post.
The name Cicely/Cecily was handed down through the SMITH family which is why it caught my attention.
Will have to see if TROVE newspapers brings up anything to do with horses.
Regards,
Sashar
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Hi Sashar, correction in regards to Cicely Smith. Pat was the daughter of Mary Smith your great grandmother, not Cicely. Pat lives here as does her daughter. Sorry for incorrect info. Cheers Myka
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Hello, I have just read about William Melville Mitchell and his children, his first marriage was at Horsham Victoria on the 3rd of October 1883 when he married Elizabeth Thorne they had one son William George Thomas, in 1884. Elizabeth died several days after giving birth. William Melville :) was the son of William and Martha nee Turner they ran the Western Hotel in Dunkeld Victoria Australia where young William was born. William had 3 sisters two who died as children and are buried with their parents in the old Dunkeld Cemetery. Martha was married to Thomas Clark and had seven children with him before she had 4 children with William Mitchell. I have the marriage cert of William Melvilles 1st and 3rd marriages. Does anyone have a copy of the 2nd marriage to Johanna Marie (I think may be her name, known as Anna) or any record of it?.
William Snr came from Portsmouth in England, he is the son of William Mitchell and it is possible that his mother was Sarah nee Miller and she was a retired shopkeeper in Portsmouth in 1851. Hope this helps you all a little. Regards H M