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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: apd on Sunday 28 November 04 17:00 GMT (UK)
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My paternal Grandmother:
Cleopatra Louise Marchant
born 17th Sept 1893 at 7 Bishops St. Grange, Cardiff
Her Certificate of Registry of a birth and her birth certificate both give her name as "Clia Louise"
Her Marriage certificate gives her name as "Cleopatra Louise"
Her certificate of registration as a citizen of Rhodesia gives her name as "Clia Louise"
The birth certificates of all 3 of her children name her as "Cleopatra Louise"
Her Zimbabweian death certificate names her "Clea Louise"
In the family she was mostly known as Aunty Loui to the generation before mine (to my generation she was Granny Dinneen)
I have checked the 1901 census under every spelling I can think of. I have tried with girls aged 7 (+-5years) born in Cardiff. I have tried every which way, and I cannot find her in the 1901 census.
It is highly unlikely that she was abroad on census day 1901, but I cannot find her.
Has anyone any ideas if I am missing something obvious here in my search of the 1901 census for Clia/Cleopatra?
Thanks,
apd
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Hi,
I had a try searching for her on the 1901 census gov site for you , and like you I can't get anything either. I tried searching by first name only, cleo, Cleopatra, clia, Clea. Where born I put glamorgan, glamorganshire.
You've probably done this too, and thought of looking at the occupants of the house address where she was born. I tried an address search on the 1901 census, but nothing is coming up for Bishop ( or Bishops) cardiff, so that street may not be still there today
These are lists I'm getting back for Marchant , keyword glamorgan ( female):
Annie Marchant 2 Glamorgan Neath
Annie Marchant 36 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Roath
Doris Marchant 4 Glamorgan Pontypridd Glamorgan Pontypridd
Dorothy Marchant 17 Glamorgan Pontypridd Bedford Bedford St Paul
Glaydis Marchant 1 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Roath
Jessie Marchant 8 Glamorgan Pontypridd Glamorgan Pontypridd
Lucy Marchant 28 Glamorgan Pontypridd Glamorgan Pontypridd
Mabel Marchant 7M Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Canton
Maria Marchant 78 Glamorgan Llandaff Glamorgan Aberdare
Mary Marchant 6 Glamorgan Aberdare Glamorgan Aberdare
males:
Age Where
Born Administrative
County Civil Parish Occupation
Arthur Marchant 9 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Roath School Boy
George Marchant 7 Glamorgan Pontypridd Glamorgan Pontypridd
Hubert Marchant 3 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire St John The Baptist
James Marchant 26 Glamorgan Caerphilly Glamorganshire Radyr Gardener Domestic
John Marchant 5 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Roath School Boy
Llewellyn Marchant 52 Glamorgan Llandaff Glamorgan Aberdare Coal Miner
Mark Marchant 12 Glamorgan Cadoxton Glamorganshire Roath School Boy
Mark Marchant 45 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Roath Labourer Dock
Sidney Marchant 50 Glamorgan Cardiff Devon Dawlish West Cattleman On Farm
Walter Marchant 3 Glamorgan Cardiff Glamorganshire Canton
I tried merchant as well, but nothing seems to be matching up. I couldn't search on just the name Marchant , and no Christian name , and no place of birth, as there were too many results error
Do you know if Cleopatra had any sisters or brothers? you could try searching for them ( or by her parents names) in 1901 . If she has ,what are they names and ages ? what are her parents names according to her birth cert?
Have you found her parents , or any older siblings ( if you know of any of her siblings and they are older than cleo/clia) in the 1891 census?
Maybe finding her parents , or if you know of any older siblings first of all in the 1891 census ( before Cleopatra was born ) may help you to find them in 1901, if you haven't found them already that is in 1891. I'm probably just suggesting all the things that you have may have done to try and find her.
:)
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There is a list of names starting M on the 1891 for Caediff at
http://home.clara.net/tirbach/Cardiff/CardiffM.html
Lots of Marchants
Isn't her dad's name on the birth Cert?
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Thanks for the responses people.
Cell,
I found her parents and brothers and sisters at home in 1901 census, but Cleopatra was not at home with the family.
Cell,
I will have a look at that site thanks. I know her dad's name and as I say above, I found the family in the 1901 census. Problem with 1891 is Cleopatra was not born then.
Thanks
Adrian
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I am quite new to genealogy, so I hope not to mislead you. I have found with my own family on a few occassions a young child to be with their grandparents. If you are aware of the both sets of grandparents you could try to locate these, she may be with them on census night.
I hope this may be of some help.
c w
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I know the surname is different (though similar in some respects), but could this, by any chance, be her?
Name: Cleopatra Machacheus. Age: 7.
Born Cardiff. Admin county: Glamorganshire. civil parish: Barry
Others with Machacheus surname:
Demetre Machacheus 32 Greece G Subject Glamorganshire Barry Boarding House Keeper
Athena Machacheus 1 Cardiff Glamorganshire Barry
Cleopatra Machacheus 7 Cardiff Glamorganshire Barry
Emily Machacheus 20 London Glamorganshire Barry
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Tricia,
Thanks for the response. What are the family relationships here? It is tempting , but it looks to me like a family group and not my cleopatra :(
Thanks
Adrian