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Title: lightfoot
Post by: stevel on Friday 05 March 04 14:50 GMT (UK)
looking for LIGHTFOOT data documented  for Accrington area. John Emanuel Lightfoot Accringtons first mayor had a family bible in 1892, now? Steve
Title: Re:lightfoot
Post by: RootsChat on Friday 05 March 04 18:33 GMT (UK)
Hello Steve,

I would love to help you with your quest for knowledge but I am not sure what it is you are asking for help with  ???

Are you looking for the bible ?

or

Are you just looking for any information on John Emanuel Lightfoot ? If so it would help a great deal if you could give a guide as to what year you are researching.

RootsChat  :)
Title: Re:lightfoot
Post by: stevel on Friday 05 March 04 20:19 GMT (UK)
thanks for the reply, ideally Im trying to trace the bible. John Emanuel and my direct line split around 1760, so the data on him that I have found are purely a side interest. Most of this data and the bible reference is from his funeral and epitaph from the Accrington paper of 1892. However all info is of interest - the disturbing thing  however was that the photo of John Emanuel circa 1890 that I have bears a frightening resemblance to my father in his later years.
Are you of John Emanuel' line?
Title: Re:lightfoot
Post by: RootsChat on Friday 05 March 04 21:51 GMT (UK)
I am not connected to John Emanuel at all, my only interest is in trying to help you.

I found this site which gives you some background on Accrington
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Our journey begins outside the Town Hall. In 1858 - the year Queen Victoria was proclaimed Sovereign of India - this magnificent building in the Italianate style was built as a memorial to Prime Minister Sir Robert Peel. Peel (1788-1850), whose forebears lived at Peel Fold, Oswaldtwistle, and whose family were the largest employers and the most extensive landowners in the district, is best remembered as the founder of the modern police force (‘Peelers’ Bobbies’)

Following his death in 1850 a subscription fund was opened and a total of £1,056 was raised. The money was incorporated into a company called ‘The Peel Institution, Market and Baths Company’. With the aid of a mortgage, the company raised about £11,000 which was sufficient for building the Peel Institution but the ambitious plans for the Market and Baths were later abandoned.

The building was originally leased to the Mechanics Institution for social and educational purposes when it opened in 1858 before becoming the Town Hall when Accrington was granted its charter as a Borough in 1878. The first Mayor was John Emanuel Lightfoot His portrait now hangs above the stairs in the Library.


http://www.lancshistory.co.uk/hyndburn/acorntrail.htm

There is more archived records held at Manchester Central Library
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.W. Grafton and Co. of Broad Oak Printworks, Accrington, (formerly Fort, Taylor and Bury, then Hargreaves, Dugdale and Co.), calico printers.

This firm benefited from the management and scientific expertise of John Emmanuel Lightfoot, his brother Thomas Lightfoot and Thomas’ son John. The dye, aniline black, was discovered by John Lightfoot. Broad Oak Printworks was also the site for experiments by John Mercer, works chemist and later partner at Oakenshaw Printworks, whose ‘mercerisation’ process improved the finish of cotton fibre.

Business memoranda books, notes and diaries of John Lightfoot, his sons Thomas and John Emanuel Lightfoot and grandson John, 1818-1869; trial books, 1831-post December 1864 (9 volumes); receipt books, 1831-1871 (12 volumes); swatch books, 1841-1871 (8 volumes); pattern books and pattern samples, 1840s, 1867-1872 and un-dated; pattern books, 1850-post 1857, 1863 (2 volumes); newspaper cuttings, 20th century; papers and notes on patents with printed specifications.



There are some good links to try on the Lancashire board surrounding manufacturing and Industry which may help you with your research.

Best Wishes

RootsChat  ;D
Title: Re:lightfoot
Post by: stevel on Sunday 07 March 04 15:11 GMT (UK)
thanks for that data, i will add it to the list.
I have tried several sources, local FHS, Accrington newspaper included, in an effort to trace the bible, so far no success. Its either travelled down a female family line or long destroyed. One can only hope its the first ......................
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: Fredaml on Tuesday 21 October 08 15:51 BST (UK)
Hello Steve, my husband is a direct descendant of John Emanuel Lightfoot, 1st mayor of Accrington, but he has no family bible.  Was it something specific you needed to know?  I have some details on the family tree.
Fredaml
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: Bejantine on Sunday 26 October 08 16:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

My family were great friends of JEL - he was executor to a will and I think his daughter (Mrs Bunting) died at one of my family's homes.

Also a child was named after him.

I am wondering if there is a connection through either of his wives but I am having trouble finding out who they were and who their parents were in case their is a blood relationship.

Do you know if there is any HAWORTH, CLAYTON or BIRTWISTLE connection there?

I have a copy of his obituary document (several pages) produced at the time of his death.
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: Fredaml on Monday 27 October 08 11:10 GMT (UK)
Hellow Bejantine, it's interesting to hear your connection with JEL.  His first wife was Mary Hutchinson b. June 15, 1800.  Her father was also called John, I think.  They m. August 12, 1824 at Altham in Accrington, and had 6 children, Joseph, Ann, James, John, Elizabeth and Joseph II.  Most of whom died, save for Ann who survived the longest, I believe.  JEL's second wife was Sarah Hartley, b. September 24, 1804.  They married May 4, 1837 and had 2 children: John Bernard, and Emma Grace.   Emma Grace b. July 31, 1840 as you rightly say, m. William Bunting, we think in 1865.  They had 5 children:Wesley, William, John Emanuel, Annie and Ernest .

JEL the mayor was my husband David's GGG Uncle.  David's G grandfather was John L the chemist who invented aniline black.  He died aged 40: June 19, 1872.  He and his wife, Anne Rider, had 7 children: Thomas, Emma, Kate, Lucy, John Emanuel, Bessie, Maud.  This John Emanuel, b 1868 is David's grandfather.  Lucy Lightfoot b. October 13, 1866, also had a daughter Lucy, and this is where you get the Haworth connection.  Lucy born 1898 m James Edwin Haworth b. August 2, 1894.  He was David's uncle and he owned a cotton mill near to Howard and Bulloughs in Accrington.  They had 2 ch: Norman and John.  Norman is dead now.  David still has contact with John Haworth, son of Lucy and James.  We have no record of any Birtwistle or Clayton connection.

Do tell us a little more about yourself.  Do you have connections with the Haworths or others in this family tree?  If the obituary you refer to is the one by RS Crossley as it appeared in the Acc Observer, then we have the first two sections: the man who founded the dynasty, and the man who discovered the rainbow.  Frustratingly, at the end of this 2nd article dated April 22 1988, it says Next Tuesday: More about this family of chemists.  Do you have this follow up?  If so we'd love a copy, if we can swop details somehow.

Best regards,
Freda
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: Fredaml on Monday 27 October 08 11:19 GMT (UK)
Sorry, I must make a correction to my previous post.  Lucy, d. of John L (aniline black) and Anne Rider, had no children.  Lucy was the d. of John E (1868) and Emma Lill (1871), obviously named after her aunt, who m James Edwin Haworth.  Sorry about that.  Lucy and James were my husband David's aunt and uncle, as I said.

The parents of Sarah Hartley  (b.1804) were, I think called Bernard and Ellen.

Best regards,
Freda
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: km1971 on Monday 27 October 08 12:16 GMT (UK)
Steve hasn't logged in since 2004.

ken
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: Bejantine on Monday 27 October 08 21:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Freda

Thanks for the reply!

My HAWORTH family came from Haslingden to Oswaldtwistle about 1810. They were some of the early methodists in the area and were involved at union St, Accrington to start with and then raised money to build Hippings at Oswaldtwistle.

I first came across JEL the mayor when he is the executor of my GGG grandfather Jonathan's Will in the 1860's.  Jonathan's brother Thomas was an Accrington council employee. 

JEL was invited to the wedding of Jonathan's granddaughter Edith in Filey, YKS in 1879. Both she and her husband Newton CLAYTON were born in Oswaldtwistle although he was now living in Selsey, Sussex.  Newton's father was an Ossy man and in fact , Newton's great-uncle Thomas had married the bride's great-aunt Jane in 1818.

Newton and Edith's 4th child was called Harold Lightfoot and Mrs Bunting died at Selsey so there was obviously a close relationship.

The only other link that there might be is that Edith's aunt Elizabeth married a William HUTCHINSON in Accrington in 1837. He was born in 1810.   unfortunately he died in 1848 so I don't know where he came from.
I wonder  if he was a relation of Mary HUTCHINSON, JEL's first wife?

Am happy to swap obits - will send you a pm with my email address


Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: Fredaml on Tuesday 28 October 08 08:35 GMT (UK)
Interesting to see those connections.  It always surprises me what a small world it is.  JEL himself was very involved in the chapel, and very generous with his donations as Victorians were.  I lived in Ossy and went to Hippings Methodist Primary School, now demolished.  We didn't know that Emma Grace moved to Selsey.  I don't know any more of Mary Hutchinson's family, I'm afraid, and it's difficult to find them so far back.  I look forward to receiving the obit.
Best wishes,
Freda
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: MARKLUCAS on Wednesday 26 March 14 12:49 GMT (UK)
Dear Freda
My father-in-law Robert Dudley Lightfoot is the grandson of Thomas Edwin Ryder Lightfoot.  It was his great grandfather who invented aniline black.  Can you help with my research on the descendants of John and Ann Lightfoot?


Thanks
Mark

Did you know JEL and Sarah Hartley had an adopted daughter Mary Jane Taylor?
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: sarah on Wednesday 26 March 14 13:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark,

Welcome to Rootschat :)

I am very sorry but Freda's email address is no longer working, I have done a little search on the internet but there are no alternative contacts for Freda :'(

All the Best

Sarah
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: MARKLUCAS on Wednesday 26 March 14 17:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark,

Welcome to Rootschat :)

I am very sorry but Freda's email address is no longer working, I have done a little search on the internet but there are no alternative contacts for Freda :'(

All the Best

Sarah

Dear Sarah
Thanks for your help.  Do you know if Freda's surname is Lightfoot?
Mark
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: Accringtonian on Friday 28 March 14 22:22 GMT (UK)
I have a pal in Accrington who is descended from JEL and know another lady in Australia but she is difficult to contact.  I will try to contact both of them. Lightfoot's photo is top of the stairs in Accrington Library. He is perhaps the only prominent Victorian Accringtonian who does not have s street named after him. Bob
Title: Re: lightfoot
Post by: clayton bradley on Friday 28 March 14 22:26 GMT (UK)
There's a lady on Ancestry with JEL in her tree, if you have Ancestry access, claytonbradley