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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: daisymaisy on Saturday 17 March 07 17:08 GMT (UK)
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Hi Iam not having much luck in finding out much information on the above names,I am now hoping someone here might be able to help.All the information I have is from my grandmothers birth certificate and is as follows..
Margaret d.o.b 1/1/1895 father
John Taggart ,labourer ,Glenarm,
Mother Sarah Taggart formerly Aicken.
the birth was registered in the distric of Glenarm larne..
As far as I was told my Grandmother was brought up in the Catholic faith ,but in 30/7/1915 she married James Coutts in Glasgow who was a protestant.I have also been told she had a sister called Annie,no one seems to know when the family moved from Larne to Glasgow.Any ideas on how to trace more info would be great..
thank you
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Hi Daisy,
Do you have your grandmother's parents marriage certificate?
If not, I found this civil index info below for a John Taggart and Sarah Aiken that may be yours.
Civil marriages: John Taggart and a Sarah Aiken married on the 10 Sep 1892 at Glenarm Presbyterian Church. Parish Tickmacrevan, in the sub district of Larne.
Hope that is of some help :)
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Hi Cell Thank you very very much for finding that out for me,I had no idea when they were married.I have now tried putting the names and dates into the mormon index search hoping to find out what children they had ,but had no luck.funds are rather low just now so can't afford to obtain a copy of their marriage certificate,but hopefully in the near future I can send off for it and hopefully get some information on thier parents etc...
once again thank you so much for your help..Iam rather new to all this research so if anyone else has any other ideas or links that they could put me on to to obtain more information I would be very gratefull.
thank you
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while searching for the Taggart/Aicken name I came across this web page,I know its maybe a long shot but just maybe the Sarah brought up by Andrew Aiken could be the same one Iam looking for.
http://members.tripod.com/mmkasik/id21_andrew_aiken_and_esther_montgomery_had.htm
ok maybe Iam getting excited over nowt ..lol
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Cell has given you a possible marriage, which is a good place to start. A couple of sites such as Ulster Historical Foundation and Family Ulster would be able to give/get you transcripts of the marriage for about £6 and £4 pounds respectively (so cheaper than getting an actual copy cert).
Re your website find, there would be no harm done in contacting the owner and asking them if they would have a look at the possibility of a link with your Sarah, albeit it maybe best if you have a few more details to hand first. It only takes the time to write a short email and you never know the result (I've found this helpful in the past), albeit I think the Mills in brackets after her name is suggesting this is the surname of who she married.
The family in the website originated in the Buckna area, and these two surnames still appeared in that area right through the 1800's into the 1900's.
I wouldn't get too concerned about the apparent contradiction re Religion. Marriages between RC and Protestant faiths were actually more common in that timescale than many people seem to realise (and in many rural areas, children from both religions were taught in the same school).
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Are you near any of the Family History Centres in Scotland (ie the Mormon ones)? You could ask them to order in the marriage for you to view. also the 1901 Census for Glenarm to see if the family may still have been around then.
Have you also checked the 1901 Scottish Census in case they had already moved by then and tried for births of any children in Scotland around 1901? There would seem to be only one Margaret Taggart age 5 or 6 in Scotland at 1901 (1 credit to view index, then 5 to view return)...you never know, may be her...there are 16 Sarah's, and rather more John's (68). There are also 20 Annies.
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Hi Scotsmum I am in North Lanarkshire ,have never been to the family history centre but I will try to get there to follow it up maybe within the next few months iam off work sick at the moment.Thanks to you too for the help...iam not too good at this researching stuff at all ..lol
meant to add that the Taggart family when they lived in Glasgow came from Pitt street ,now if I could match the Margaret Taggart that you found in 1901 census age around 5/6 to that street that would be another piece of the jigsaw .
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You have a good starting base with your gran's birth details and with a little bit more time and digging, should hopefully get back a bit further. Irish research is often hampered by a lack of certain records, but is not impossible, so keep going. Funnily enough, around the 1900's, there was a Taggart family in the Buckna area who had apparently moved or returned there from Bellshill (North Lanarkshire).
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Have used Lanark including Glasgow to narrow down the index search but unfortunately in doing so it no longer returns anything for a Margaret aged 5/6, so perhaps not yours after all.
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I guess its all about knowing the right places to search etc ,I dont even know how Cell found the marriage on a civil index,I have know idea where to find out about this index and if its available on line free or do you need to subscribe to it.
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Cell probabaly found it on BIVRI (British Isles Vital Records Index), which is a set of discs that can be purchased from the Mormon church for around £20/25 or on Emerald Ancestors, an online site that you can subscribe to (£9.99 for 1 mth, £29.99 for 6 mths, £49.99 for 1year). I have checked and it does appear on Emerald Ancestors.
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I was thinking of going to the Mitchell library in Glasgow to see what discs they have for viewing ,someone said they have lots of free stuff to view
ps meant to say I see you have the name stewart in your family ,thats my middle name from my grans side of the family,her great gran was a mary stewart married to David Morrison ,(from green street glasgow) then her parents were Jane Morrison and Alexander Stewart
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The Stewart name in my list would have been from around the Hamilton area.
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I dont think my Stewarts would have had enough money for bus fare to Hamilton ..lol
well I got an email from the link I found regarding the Aicken family and they certainly have links with the names Aicken and Taggart and from the same church that Cell mention,unfortuantly its not the same dates as the sarah and John that Iam looking for ,(is later)but I'm sure they must be related somewhere down the line..
My main aim now must be to get a copy of the marriage certificate ...
thanks also to all that have emailed me with different ideas and hints on researching ,to a novice like me ,every bit of help is appreciated.
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Do post again once you have the certificate details to see if we can be of any further help.
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I also have a Taggart/Aicken (Aiken) connection. Our grandfather's sister Sarah Taggart married Andrew Aiken at Buckna Presbyterian Church. Sarah was born to William Taggart and Rachel McNeill in 1906 and she died 23 Jan 1990. They had one child that we know of--William. The last I knew William lived at Carnlough, Antrim, and had four children. Sarah's brother Robert was born in 1896 at Glenrarm, Larne.
We have other Aikens in the family tree as well. Sara Aiken married Robert Martin (who later remarried my mother-in-law, he a widower and she a widow). Thomas Aiken married Nellie McClelland. Both of these families are in the US.
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sorry to bring an old toipic up, but did james and
Margaret have a son names John Taggert Coutts who died on the h.m.s manistee in 1942? if so thats my grandfathers brother. i believe there was around 12 / 13 of them as another one died which was my grandads twin. he died from hooping cought when he was young.
and i belive there's a Margaret coutts witch is my grandads sister she lives ion bc canada.
i maybe wrong though just the names sound familiar.
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Hi Coutts84 if your grandad was called Frank then yes we are related, my mum was your grandads sister and I was at your grandads funeral.
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yes my grandad was frank, and my dad is william.
i googled john taggart coutts last week as i have been trying to see how far i can trace the family back and i seen that you posted on a few forums so i though you was a long lost relative.
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John was married and had a daughter but I don't think any of the family kept in touch with her after he died :(
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i just asked my dad and he said he's not to sure, he doesn't have any knolage of it. and is your mother margaret?
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My mum was Isabella (Isa)
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sent you a pm
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if its possible if you have anytime could i give you my ancestry.com detais so you could add to the family tree?
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I also have Taggarts from Antrim going back to the early 1800s, i too am having difficulty finding them in Ireland records( probably because they where destroyed).
Mine starts with John Taggart married to Agnes Christie
the 7 children of John Taggart married to Agnes Christie i know of are
John 1832
Elizabeth Carnochan 1834
Margaret 1840 - 1896 West Benhar
Mary Jane 1843 - 1843
Mary Jane 1845
Ellen 1846
William 1852 - 1919 Bellshill
All the children were born in Gallanagh Grange of Shilvodan.
William and Maragret moved to Scotland but i can`t verify if any others followed.
This may help ?
Regards
William
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There’s this family in Gallanagh in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shilvodan/Gallanagh/916697/
I think Rebecca may have been Rebecca Houston. Married Wm Taggart 1851. (His father was also William).
A possible member of the family:
Full Abstract :
Taggart Robert of Gallanagh county Antrim presbyterian clergyman died 5 November 1926 at Ottawa Canada Administration (with Will) (limited) Belfast 25 October to John Owens solicitor. Effects £430. D.B.N. P.R. 03.09.1941