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Title: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: stoney on Saturday 17 March 07 16:19 GMT (UK)
As I've reached brickwalls on a lot of my other lines I just thought I'd ask if anyone is searching for Hounam families, especially in and around the Langholm area?

The earliest I can get back to (and many thanks to those who have helped me so far! ;D) is one John Hounam, b.1651 and married to Janet Hetherington, 1678.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: stoney on Sunday 04 January 09 17:30 GMT (UK)
.....two years on and I'm rooting about in the family tree, still looking for other Hounam researchers!


or am I all alone?  :'(
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: Wul on Sunday 04 January 09 19:20 GMT (UK)
Have you seen this website?

http://www.langholmarchive.org.uk/?action=search&perPage=76&page=1&startDate=1848-1-1&endDate=1872-12-31&name=hounam&

Some extra information you may not have?
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: LucyGray on Monday 09 February 09 20:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Stoney,

Just joined rootschat at the weekend and saw your message. I am also researching the Hounam family. Christopher Hounam and Agnes Johnstone were my great, great, great grandparents.

Have you been up to Langholm to The Auld Kirkyard at Drove Road and Wauchope Kirkyard ? There are many Hounams buried in both. There is also a interesting story regarding the Hounams in Langholm As it Was (an old book written by John Hyslop) Perhaps you have read it.
I am assuming that one of your relatives was David J Beattie if so then you will be aware of the local book Oor Ain Folk which he wrote. There are references in there to the Hounams and burials in the Auld Kirkyard.
 I am still researching but it gets more difficult the further back we go.
Good wishes with your search
Lucy



 
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: walterc on Tuesday 17 February 09 10:21 GMT (UK)
Hello Stoney

I think we've been in touch before about the Hounams and the elusive Samuel Wolves.

The Archive Centre in Langholm is putting up several resources and recently put on one about customers of James Scott, Merchant, Claygate.  Down at the foot of the list is a mention of Samuel Wolves, a customer of his in Langholm.

I saw the original document several years ago, and Samuel had purchased 2 (undecipherable) of whisky from him.

And by a coincidence, at Claygate today, there's a WW1 memorial stone which records, amongst others, a former pupil of Gilnockie School, Sam W Hounam, the "W" for Wolves. 

The Archive Centre's web address is http://www.langholmarchive.com/ and this info is on the Resources page.

WalterC
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: daftcatdarcy on Saturday 15 August 09 09:52 BST (UK)
I'm researching Wigtownshire War Memorials and came across your posting.  There is a Samuel Wolves Hounam on Stoneykirk Parish War Memorial in Sandhead.  He's the same one as you have I think, his parents were married in Stoneykirk.  If you've any more information on him I'd be pleased to hear about it too.
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: walterc on Saturday 15 August 09 14:38 BST (UK)
There's a bit more about Samuel Hounam at http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warmemscot-ftopic44.html and also there was a long obituary to him in "The Eskdale and Liddesdale Advertiser" shortly after his death. He wasn't killed in action but, if memory serves me correctly from a brain tumour.

Samuel is also mentioned on Canonbie War Memorial, Canonbie Church Memorial, Gilnockie School Memorial and (I haven't seen this one to confirm it) the Edinburgh University War Memorial.



Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: daftcatdarcy on Saturday 15 August 09 17:24 BST (UK)
Thanks Walter - mystery solved - couldn't find him on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site, but he's there on the Scottish National War Memorial.
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: jaloho on Thursday 27 August 09 13:03 BST (UK)
Noticed your message while surfing and joined Rootschat to reply! I am a Hounam and I've done quite a bit of family history researching over the last few years. I am a descendant of John Hounam b. 1651 via Adam Hounam (b. Langholm 1745) and Abraham Hounam (b.1858 Alston, Cumberland). I do not have definite proof, but I believe John Hounam(b.1651) may have come from the Melrose area - there were several Hounams there in the middle of the 17th century (when the parish records began). A John Hounam was born at Bridgend, Melrose on 5 Nov 1648.
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: stoney on Thursday 27 August 09 14:55 BST (UK)
Hi, jaloho!
Welcome to Rootschat!

I must confess, I've been out of the loop a bit because I was fed up of bouncing off brickwalls and dead-ends in my Family Tree!

The only info I have of my earliest Hounam is the aforementioned John Hounam b.1651 - this was recorded by my great uncle and one of his sons in a family tree which was initially drawn up in the 1930's! I will go and dig out my copy of it and see if there are any other interesting tidbits there!

I seem to recall he (JH) was referred to as a "merchant of Langholm" - but have no idea how that was determined!

A Hounam married into the Beattie family - so it's mainly Beattie info that i have with any real certainty!

I will PM you with what I have!

Regards. Stoney
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: jaloho on Thursday 27 August 09 17:10 BST (UK)
John Hounam (1651) was a "Merchant of Langholm" - he was described as such in the Register of Testaments (index of wills) 1710. Unfortunately, the will itself has been lost.

I haven't looked at my Hounam family tree for quite a while, but I probably have quite a lot of information that will be useful to you - I'll look out what I have.  look forward to your PM.
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: walterc on Friday 28 August 09 11:31 BST (UK)
Langholm Archive Group had last weekend a visitor from Colorado researching Olivers around Langholm. 

He got a surprise when he discovered that a wife of one of the Olivers was a Hounam (a daughter of John Hounam and Mary Newall) and landed a tree back to 1651! … … and an even bigger surprise that he was related to me!
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: jaloho on Friday 28 August 09 11:58 BST (UK)
Hi Walter, If you come across any more wandering Hounams I'm always happy to help them with whatever information I have. Once I finish researching my mothers family tree I may even get round to that Hounam family website I've been talking about for years!
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: daverodney on Friday 22 November 19 14:42 GMT (UK)
Adding to a 10 year old thread to say hello to Hounams everywhere.

I'm new to RootsChat, but Hounam is one of my lines, so i thought I'd see who might still be active.

All the best

Dave
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: walterc on Friday 22 November 19 15:07 GMT (UK)
Still unearthing the occasional "new" Hounam.

You might find    http://www.langholmarchive.org.uk - the local Newspaper index useful

WalterC
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: daverodney on Friday 22 November 19 15:42 GMT (UK)
Yes, I've spent most of the afternoon looking at that since I came across this thread!

Absolutely fascinating!

I notice in one of your earlier posts "one of the Olivers was a Hounam (a daughter of John Hounam and Mary Newall)"...I have John and Mary in my tree! John would be my 3rd great uncle.

Will now probably spend the weekend looking at the archive!!

All the best

Dave
Title: Re: Hounam families, Langholm
Post by: MaryGib on Wednesday 08 June 22 08:37 BST (UK)
I've also been looking for information on the ‘elusive Samuel Wolves’ and others for many years, with little success.  He’s my GGGG grandfather via John Hounam then Margaret E. Hounam.

Recently, an internet search produced an interesting text, possibly an OCR version of some historical document but thinking it would be easily found again, I only took a screenshot, so unfortunately can't name the source. Anyway, I joined Rootschat to offer the following :

“In Langholm, on the 5th instant, at an advanced age, Mrs Wankly” (yes, really), “mother-in-law to Mr Samuel Wolves, Sheriff Officer, Langholm.”

Needless to say, ‘Mrs Wankly’ was nowhere to be found, but a recent visit to Scotlands’ People produced the following burial information with a birth year of 1745:

“Mary Wanklin, mother-in-law to Mr Wolves, buried 3 Aug 1823, age 78,  Parish of Langholm and Staplegorton”

So might Mary Wanklin be the mother of Mary (or Margaret) Blackmere / Blackmore, and grandmother to Mary Anne Wolves?

So far, the only close online surname match (from Find my Past) seems to be :
“Mary Blakemore, married Richard Wanklyn on 6 Feb 1787, church of St. Peter & St. Paul, Aston Juxta, Birmingham, Warwickshire”,
which would fit with others’ view of Warwickshire origins.

This would be quite a late marriage to produce Mary / Margaret Blackmere / Blackmore, maybe hints at either an earlier illigitimate birth or a second marriage to Richard Wanklyn

Will we ever know? While we're all beavering away searching for clues, someone out there might be in possession of the family bible !