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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: IrishLoft on Monday 12 March 07 18:13 GMT (UK)
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I'm hoping to find a lot of McCann experts out there -- it is said that the McCann name originated in Armagh and was a very large Clan. I am trying to find ties to my McCann branch that is said to be from Meath before sailing to USA -- how far is Meath from Armagh and was there any ties between McCann's as they spread across different counties ? Were they forced out of Armagh ? I know there are McCanns in Meath but have no idea how to tie them to my line or if they relate at all -- I would imagine that my Gr-Gr-Grandfather John McCann had other family members left behind in Ireland if the famine didn't take them. John was born 1828, arrived in New York in 1847 but I can not find him on passenger ship logs, I think he was with Margaret McCann -- possibly his younger sister -- but no one seems to know who his parents were or what became of them ? Look forward to hearing from other McCanns or anyone who might shed some light -- Thanks, Patrick M. McCann, USA
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Hi Patrick, I am a Mc Cann and have just returned from Ireland searching my dad's family, he was born in Dublin (he was also a Patrick, his parents were Thomas and Frances nee' Mc Cann, he had one brother James and a sister who died young, my Dad was born at Lower Dorset Street, Dublin) I found the staff for B.M.D's at Joyce house, Registry Office in Dublin very helpful also the staff at the National Archives, they will do lookups and have researchers working in the Archive office, they tell me that the 1901 and 1911 census will be going on line in the autumn free to view, this wont be of help to you but possibly to others searching any names, Also what may be of interest is at New Ross there is a copy of the Dunbrody famine ship and there they have computers set up to search the names of people who went to the states or Canada, the latter being the cheapest way to go and then work their way down to the states,if they did go via Canada then they probably would have gone to Grosse Islle first, just as others went to Ellis Island in New York, is it possible they went that way rather than straight into New York, that is if they were paying their own way? (just a thought)cheers Liverbirds
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Hi Patrick,
I'm not certain of the shortest distance from Co. Armagh to Co. Meath. The distance from Armagh City to Drogheda is ninety miles. Whilst some families were forced to move from one county to another the Irish custom of Hiring Fairs would account for some movement as well. You could find parents in one county and their children of working age employed and living with a farmer and his family in a different county.
Click (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dgarvey/surnames/McCann/griff_mccann.html) to see a map of the McCann Surname in Griffiths Valuation 1848-64.
Christopher
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Hi Patrick, My McCann's emigrated from Ireland in 1856 to Australia & I've also got no idea of their emigration records or where in Armagh they originated from.
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Hiya Patrick,
I was going to ask the denomination of your McCann family.
I found the answer in your Meath (Eastmeath) John McCann 1828 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,242940.msg1324314.html#msg1324314) thread on the Dublin board.
1828 McCann's ties to Meath (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,217286.msg1131971.html#msg1131971) on the Louth board.
McCann / Gibney ties to Meath ("EastMeath") (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,219638.msg1147358.html#msg1147358) on the Westmeath board.
McCann / Gibney of Meath 1800's (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,180345.msg871538.html#msg871538) on the Meath board. I see Karen Donnelly Quinn replied to you on this board and you posted a query to Bodger ... if that query was not answered by a PM why not send a PM
to Bodger drawing attention to your query on the board.
Christopher
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Hi Christopher --
I guess I've become a bit discouraged with my search for John McCann's origins -- I'll have to try Bodger again -- I assume he has no other leads ?? Thanks for all your help / suggestions,
Patrick M. McCann
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Patrick,
There were McCanns in Newry if that's any help. Several are listed in the Belfast and Ulster Directory of 1852 ...
J. McCann, publican, Merchants Quay
T. McCann, publican, 13, Water Street
T. & J. McCann, bakers, 20, Castle Street and Victoria Mills
Several of the Newry McCanns are mentioned on Ros Davies' Co. Down, Ireland Genealogy Research Site. (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Mc/McCann.htm)
Christopher
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hi,just randomly saw your post through google,im a mccann I am not terribly familiar with my family background but my grandad's name was john mccann. I've often heard my father talking about my grandad john originating in county Armagh. Don't know if i can be of any help to you but if you'd like to get in touch maybe my dad would be of some help.thanks,Lisa
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Hi Lisa,
It's great to hear from another McCann -- it is said that the McCann's originated in Armagh but the only clue I have is from naturalization papers that state my Gr-Gr-Grandfather John McCann was from "Eastmeath" -- prior to finding that info, I was told he was from Westmeath -- it's has been impossible for me to trace his origin especially since I also can't find an exact date of birth or his parents names -- he was born in ~1828 and I think he had a sister Margaret born ~1832 -- is there any way to narrow down the McCann families that were in the eastern part of Meath in the 1840's and left for the USA -- I believe he arrived in the USA in 1847?
From an old ship record that may be the one he arrived on -- he was with a G. McCann, Betty, Margaret, James, and another McCann that the first name is hard to read ?? Margaret McCann married Thomas Gibney who was also said to be from "Eastmeath". Maybe we are long lost cousins -- it would be great to find out !! I hope to get more info so I know where to go when I get to Ireland someday ! Look forward to hearing from you again -- Thanks -- Patrick M. McCann
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Welcome to Rootschat, Lisa, but remember that details of living people shouldn't be posted online here. After you've made 2/3 posts you'll be able to use PM (personal message) system to exchange email addresses, recent family details, etc.
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Hello - I also came across this post randomly - there must be something about the McCanns at this time.
I am looking for a Francis McCann born 1889 - also no known parents etc. Only info is that he spent some time at the seminary in Vallodolid in Spain, served in World War 1 and migrated to Australia in the early 1920s married and had 2 children. Francis was also known as Paddy. He is the mystery man in the family!!
Alchemyst
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I am also a McCann. My Mccann's come from County Down. Some may of come from Armagh.