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Title: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: chris130872 on Friday 26 November 04 13:30 GMT (UK)
I am searching for details of the bloomer family in netherton/cradley heath in the 1901 census. I know that my great grandfather was named Enoch and was born in 1889 and he might have had a sister named polly but thats all i know, i would appriciate any help and help in naming the  other members of his family ie- father , Mother and any other sisters and ages etc. thank you.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Nicky on Friday 26 November 04 13:52 GMT (UK)
Hi
Here is the 1891 census for Enoch Bloomer born 1889.

address Cradley Row

Matthew Bloomer, head, married, age 41, house nail maker born Staffordshire Kingswford
Ellen Bloomer, wife, married,age 31, born Staffordshire Kingswford
Harriet Bloomer, daughter, age 17,nail maker, born Staffordshire Kingswford
Emily Bloomer,daughter, age 13,nail maker,born Staffordshire Kingswford
Ruth Bloomer, daughter, age 11, scholar born Staffordshire Kingswford
Enoch Bloomer, son, age 2, born Worcs Netherton
Ann Bloomer, mother, widow, age 64 born Staffordshire Kingswford
Enoch Bloomer, relative, age 21, horse shoe maker,born Staffordshire Kingswford
Emily Pegg, relative, age 14, born Staffordshire Kingswford

Civil parish:    Dudley 
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Andrews 
County:    Worcestershire 
     
Source information:    RG12/2298
Registration district:    Dudley 
Sub registration district:    Dudley 
ED, institution, or vessel:    40 
Folio:    35 
Page:    12

I think Kingswford should be Kingswinford although I have transcribed from theoriginal image and Kingswford is definitely what they have written.

I will look on other census and see what I can find for you.

Nicky
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Nicky on Friday 26 November 04 14:11 GMT (UK)
Hi
First of all I should of put Horse nail maker in the 1891 for Mathew.

Here is Mathew (Matthew) in the 1871 census

Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island .
 
Dinah Bloomer 21  Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Wife  Kingswinford  Staffordshire   
Hezekiah Bloomer 1  Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Son  Kingswinford  Staffordshire   
Matthew Bloomer 21  Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Head  Kingswinford  Staffordshire 

Civil parish:    Kingswinford 
Ecclesiastical parish:    Quarry Bank 
Town:    Quarry Bank 
County/Island:    Staffordshire 
Country:    England 
Source information:    RG10/3030
Registration district:    Stourbridge 
Sub-registration district:    Kingswinford 
ED, institution, or vessel:    43 
Folio:    68 
Page:    34
Household schedule number:    172

Here is the 1881.


~~~~~~~~
  Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Mathew BLOOMER   Head   M   Male   31   Quarry Bank, Stafford, England   Horse Nail Maker     
 Dinna BLOOMER   Wife   M   Female   31   Quarry Bank, Stafford, England       
 Hezekiah BLOOMER   Son   U   Male   11   Quarry Bank, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 Harriot BLOOMER   Dau      Female   7   Quarry Bank, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 Emily BLOOMER   Dau      Female   3   Quarry Bank, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 Ruth BLOOMER   Dau      Female   10 m   Quarry Bank, Stafford, England       


~~~~~~~~
Source Information:
  Dwelling   No - Cradley Rd
  Census Place Dudley, Worcester, England
  Family History Library Film   1341691
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   2882 / 9
  Page Number   12
 
and the 1901

address 49 Cradley Road

Henry Round, head, married, age 66, labourer ??? born Dudley Worcs
Hannah Round, wife, married, age 66 born Dudley Worcs
Matthew Bloomer, boarder, married, age 49, horse nail maker, born Brierley Hill Staffs
Enoch Bloomer, boarder, age 12, born Dudley Worcs
William Chatham, boarder, married, age 49, iron ??? haulier born ??? Shropshire

Civil parish:    Dudley 
Ecclesiatical parish:    St Andrew 
County/Island:    Worcestershire 
Country:    England 

Source information:    RG13/2748
Registration district:    Dudley 
Sub-registration district:    Dudley 
ED, institution, or vessel:    35 
Folio:    35 
Page:    11
Household schedule number:    59

although Mathew is listed as married I think he was a widower, there is a death for an Ellen Bloomer in 1897.

Name:    Bloomer, Ellen
Record Type:    Deaths
Age at death:    36
Quarter:    June
Year:    1897
District:    Dudley 
County:    Staffordshire Worcestershire
Volume:    6c
Page:    64 

Hope this all helps

Nicky





Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: chris130872 on Friday 26 November 04 14:18 GMT (UK)
thanks Nicky,
i'm sure that will be a great help it's for my mother she has tryed to get this info every where but didn't know about this site.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Gardener on Friday 26 November 04 21:57 GMT (UK)
And here is matthew in 1861

Superintendant
Registrar's District Registrar's
Sub-District Piece E.D. Ecclesiastical
District
Stourbridge Kingswinford RG 09-2074 30 Quarry Bank
 
Residence Detail
157 SHEFFIELD ROAD


Given Name Family Name Age Grouping
HEZEKIAH BLOOMER 34 yrs 11818
ANN BLOOMER 34 yrs 11818
RUTH BLOOMER 13 yrs 11818
MATTHEW BLOOMER 11 yrs 11818
EMILY BLOOMER 6 yrs 11818
MARYAN BLOOMER 4 yrs 11818
AGATHA BLOOMER 3 mth 11818


That is from the following site http://www.griffs4bears.co.uk/census/query.html

and I can add that they are all born Kingswinford,Staffs, and their occupations are: horse nail maker,nailor,nailor,nailor,scholar,scholar,scholar (apologies, too lazy to retype it ;))

Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: lee bloomer on Tuesday 07 October 08 23:57 BST (UK)
 ;D hello!! im lee bloomer, im from netherton in dudley, u.k.. i think i mite be a relative! lol! my dad is named phillip bloomer, he has a sister named sheila, and i think 2 brothers one named gareth, another named derek but i aint too sure as i am not close to them because my dad left before i was 1, i know my fathers side of the family used to run the loving lamb pub and the blue pig pub both in netherton, and that my grandmother lived on cradley road, an address which you have mentioned in your threads, now i have seen your threads i will ask around my family to see if i can gather more history, hope i can be of help!!
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Joanne Warby on Monday 17 May 10 00:33 BST (UK)
Hi,
Matthew Bloomer's sister, Ruth b. abt 1848 married Richard Moore. I do not know who Richard's father was, as yet but his mother was Martha. In the 1851 census martha was nowed married to Eli Deeley (my husband's Deeley family) and Richard Moore and his sister Emma can be found in the home. Martha then married Noah Pearsall in 1859 following Eli's death in 1858. Richard Moore and his wife Ruth (nee Bloomer) are living next to Noah Persal [sic] and martha in the 1871 census in Kingswinford, Staffordshire.

Ruth's father is given ad Hezikiah Bloomer b. abt 1827 Quarry Bank and Ann (do not know surname yet) b. Netherton abt 1827.

There is yet another Bloomer connection due to a Elizabeth Bloomer (I think daughter of Benjamin & Pheobe Bloomer) who married widower George deeley in 1849 in Stourbridge reg district. I have yet to follow up on george Deeley's connection to my husbands Deeley family or Benjamin's Bloomer family but it may interest other researchers to know of this connection. Has anyone come across Elizabeth Bllomer b. abt 1821 and George deeley b. abt 1813?

Regards Joanne Warby
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Scribbledogg on Monday 17 January 11 21:22 GMT (UK)
Hi I'm married into the Bloomer family and my father in law ran the loving lamb in, I think, the 80's.

I only know family back as far as his dad who was Charlie Bloomer and he was born in 1921. He married Lilian Sinclair in 1940 and they had six children.

@Lee Bloomer.....I think my father in law is your uncle!

I can ask for more info if anyone is interested

Kind regards Jo Bloomer
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: linell on Wednesday 19 January 11 05:52 GMT (UK)
And here is matthew in 1861

Superintendant
Registrar's District Registrar's
Sub-District Piece E.D. Ecclesiastical
District
Stourbridge Kingswinford RG 09-2074 30 Quarry Bank
 
Residence Detail
157 SHEFFIELD ROAD


Given Name Family Name Age Grouping
HEZEKIAH BLOOMER 34 yrs 11818
ANN BLOOMER 34 yrs 11818
RUTH BLOOMER 13 yrs 11818
MATTHEW BLOOMER 11 yrs 11818
EMILY BLOOMER 6 yrs 11818
MARYAN BLOOMER 4 yrs 11818
AGATHA BLOOMER 3 mth 11818


That is from the following site http://www.griffs4bears.co.uk/census/query.html

and I can add that they are all born Kingswinford,Staffs, and their occupations are: horse nail maker,nailor,nailor,nailor,scholar,scholar,scholar (apologies, too lazy to retype it ;))



I have Matthew Bloomer 1833 and Hezikiah Bloomer 1827 in my tree, sons of Thomas Bloomer and Mary Attwood, they Married 3.4.1820 Old Swinford.  Mary was the daughter of Aaron Attwood, the family lived in Quarry Bank Kingswinford.  HTH from Linell.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: linell on Wednesday 19 January 11 05:59 GMT (UK)
Hi I'm married into the Bloomer family and my father in law ran the loving lamb in, I think, the 80's.

I only know family back as far as his dad who was Charlie Bloomer and he was born in 1921. He married Lilian Sinclair in 1940 and they had six children.

@Lee Bloomer.....I think my father in law is your uncle!

I can ask for more info if anyone is interested

Kind regards Jo Bloomer

Jo, Charles' birth registration has Charles T Bloomer June Qtr Dudley 1921, his mother was Astley.  You need to order his birth certificate to get any further back.  Linell.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Scribbledogg on Wednesday 19 January 11 16:39 GMT (UK)
hi yes i have ordered the birth certificate!

His mother, I believe was Mary Astley and his Father was Frank Bloomer...he may have had two brothers Frank and Hubert, but until I get a certificate i cant confirm this.

Charlie Bloomer also had 8 children, 5 boys and 3 girls, one of the boys died as an infant.  However I am really interested in further back so if anyone has any family info, i would be most gratelful.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: linell on Thursday 20 January 11 10:41 GMT (UK)
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/39283/18576/Richard-Fellows-Family

There's some info here for Frank Bloomer's Mother's family.

Linell.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: linell on Thursday 20 January 11 10:49 GMT (UK)
You really need to get a copy of Frank's Marriage Certificate to see who his father was, there are two Noah Bloomers in 1881, both born 1877, one was the son of Wm and Jane in Cradley Heath, the other one is Noah E Bloomer son of Noah and Sarah in Quarry Bank.  Linell.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Scribbledogg on Thursday 20 January 11 11:02 GMT (UK)
thats quite interesting, as one of the Frank Bloomers I found on the 1901 census was living with his Grandfather 'John Priest'?
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Scribbledogg on Thursday 20 January 11 12:37 GMT (UK)
Ive found out a bit more now, but im posting on another thread......im not familiar with this forum yet so not sure how to post a link........if you search for Frank Bloomer it should come up   ;D
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Dawn Madmom on Monday 21 February 11 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hi

My first ever posting so forgive me if i break any rules. I am a descendant of Hannah Bloomer born 1824 who is the elder brother of Hezeciah and Matthew. Children of Thomas Bloomer and Mary Attwood married April 1820 in Oldswinford. I have have found several Thomas Bloomers born around 1800 in Cradley does anyone know which is the correct one?

Thomas Christened 1796 parents Joseph and Nancy
Thomas christened 1800 parents John and Sarah
Thomas born 1.4.1978 christened 21.10.1804 parents James and Mary
All Park Lane Presbyterian Church Cradley
Thanks Dawn
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: linell on Tuesday 22 February 11 01:43 GMT (UK)
Here you are Dawn:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/51741/23869/Joseph-Bloomer-Family
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: Dawn Madmom on Tuesday 22 February 11 21:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks Linell thats really useful.

Kind regards Dawn
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: linell on Wednesday 23 February 11 00:02 GMT (UK)
Glad to be of help Dawn.

Linell.
Title: Re: help please!! Bloomer family netherton.
Post by: lee bloomer on Wednesday 16 March 11 01:05 GMT (UK)
Hi I'm married into the Bloomer family and my father in law ran the loving lamb in, I think, the 80's.

I only know family back as far as his dad who was Charlie Bloomer and he was born in 1921. He married Lilian Sinclair in 1940 and they had six children.

@Lee Bloomer.....I think my father in law is your uncle!

I can ask for more info if anyone is interested

Kind regards Jo Bloomer

@ jo bloomer....

the loving lamb was owned by someone on my dads side, im pretty sure there was something to do with the blue pig pub aswell in netherton but aint sure about that...

did a little digging and found a sister i never knew i had haha! funny stuff!... if there is any family that would like to get in contact you can find me easier via facebook my name on there is "Deejay N-zyme" would be nice to meet my relatives..

thanks jo!  ;D