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Title: LOOKUP OFFER: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Monday 12 March 07 11:41 GMT (UK)
Ballyclug Graveyard, in Ballylesson townland.  I have the booklet listing all the transcribed headstones.  Willing to send details to those who ask.  RosemaryJoan

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Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: scotmum on Monday 12 March 07 11:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the offer, unlikely to be, but could you check for any Lilly/Lilley graves recorded.

Always on the lookout for any mention of this surname in the Ballymena and surrounding area as research on my own line has turned into a bit of a mini study of the surname in general in this area.
Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Monday 12 March 07 14:17 GMT (UK)
Sorry Scotmum - not a Lilley in sight!  RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: scotmum on Monday 12 March 07 14:18 GMT (UK)
No problem - thanks for looking  :).
Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: stevenson on Monday 12 March 07 17:36 GMT (UK)
ROSEMARY  ;D

could you please check if there are any Porter's ,McDowell's,Stevenson's.Twig's
many thanks


Steve
Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Tuesday 13 March 07 10:22 GMT (UK)
Sorry Steve, Nary a one.  That's not to say that they are not buried there.  I have been in the graveyard and there aren't many headstones left.  It is VERY old and instead of headstones some graves just have a big boulder at the head.  By the way, I own (by default) four graves there!  Rosemary
Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: stevenson on Tuesday 13 March 07 18:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you for looking Rosemary

whoeeeee....four plots...I would pick the one with the best view to use for yourself.. ;D

I wonder where the original burial register is now?!

Steve  ;D
Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Wednesday 14 March 07 09:00 GMT (UK)
Ballymena Borough Council hold it.  After a lot of pushing I managed to get a list of all the Ross burials.  It is an old and battered document I believe but it was a small help in my research.  Rosemary
Title: Re: OLD BALLYCLUG GRAVEYARD
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 14 March 07 19:59 GMT (UK)
As it happens, I was chatting with a lady today who says she struggled a number of years ago to get plot details ( ie who was buried in them - she does know which plots are theirs and there is a booklet containing some headstone inscriptions available for the graveyard), from Burial Registers,  from Ballymena Borough council regarding Racavan Graveyard - I too am interested in documents of plots there and had almost given up any hope of their still exisitng.

It seems this lady was told that when someone in the council who looked after such records retired years ago, they thought the records were destroyed then. Your find sounds hopeful that maybe other such old records did, after all, survive somewhere within the coucil archives. If it isn't too much trouble, could you PM me details of who you finally managed to get help from, as it may be worth my trying them too .

Thanks in advance  :).
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Wednesday 14 March 07 23:03 GMT (UK)
Have sent you  PM Scotmum.  Rosemary
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 14 March 07 23:30 GMT (UK)
Much appreciated - thanks.   :)
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: Lazarus on Thursday 15 March 07 05:13 GMT (UK)
Rosemary
Would you mind checking for Charters,Skelton and Cunningham.
I may have wrong area.I know that there are family graves at Muckamore whilst most of the family "of Antrim".They lived at "Glendona" Gobrana in the mid 1860's.
My great grandfather married Elizabeth Cunningham C1853 but she did C1862.
I have letters from "Glendona" and also Roughfort.
Appologies if I am off the track.
Many thanks.
Lazarus
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Thursday 15 March 07 10:17 GMT (UK)
Sorry Lazarus - none of those names mentioned - and yes you are off course.  I can't find two of the areas mentioned but Gobrana is in the Parish of Camlin, Barony of Upper Massereene, in the Southern end of Antrim.   Ballyclug is a Parish just South of Ballymena. Best wishes, Rosemary
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: Teresa in Wirral on Thursday 15 March 07 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hi are there any Rea or Youngs. Particularly looking for Archibald rea or matthew Young.

Thank you

Teresa
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Thursday 15 March 07 13:20 GMT (UK)
No Archibald or Matthew but here are two burials:
Erected by Alexander Rea, Camperdown Victoria Australia in Memory of His Grandfather Alexander Rea Died 12th July 1850 aged 51 Years.  Also his grandmother Margaret Rea Died 17th March 1870 Aged 72 years And His Father William Rea Died 16th February 1890 Aged 65 years Also His Mother Joyce Rea Died 1st July 1880 Aged 57 Years.  And His Uncle Alexander Rea Died 27th January 1879 Aged 56 Years.  Also His Uncle James Rea Died 17th December 1886 Aged 61 Years.  Also His Brother William Rea, Australian Expeditionary Forces, Killed in Action, France, 14th Aug. 1916, Aged 51 Years. (White Marble)

Sacred to the Memory of Robert Young, Of Ballee, Who departed This Life On The 4th Day of June 1856, Aged 18 Years.  Also His Father Joseph Young, Who Depd This Life 11th April 1863, Aged 66 Years.  And The Beloved Wife of Joseph Young Who Departed This Life 12th June 1887 Aged 82 Years.  Also Their Daughter Margaret Gihon Young Who Departed This Life 8th May 1918 Aged 82 Years. (Stone)
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: Teresa in Wirral on Thursday 15 March 07 13:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosemary,
thank you for looking. Could you have a look for these for me also?

Hector Stewart (wife Helen Ferguson)

Michael M(a)cdonald (wife Rose Gorman)


Best wishes

Teresa
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Thursday 15 March 07 17:27 GMT (UK)
Sorry Teresa, no Stewarts, Fergusons, Macdonalds or Gormans listed.  Regards, Rosemary
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: Teresa in Wirral on Thursday 15 March 07 19:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you for looking Rosemary.

Best wishes

Teresa
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: FionaLorraine on Saturday 17 March 07 10:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all your help.

I'm looking for Palmer, Barr, McGarry/Megarry, Madden.  Is this easy for you to look up.  I'm beginning to search in the Ballymena area for these families.  Can you see any of these families?

Thanks again

Fiona
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Saturday 17 March 07 12:37 GMT (UK)
Just the one name represented.  Here is the inscription:
The Family Burying Ground of Archiebald Barr, Deerfin, Ballymena.  The Lords My Shepherd.  (Light Grey Marble).  At least you have a Townland mentioned and you may find the Barrs in this area. Deerfin is in Ballyclug Parish, South of Broughshane.  Good Luck Rosemary
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: FionaLorraine on Sunday 18 March 07 07:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much that is a great lead - I'll have to get to PRONI now!

Fiona
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: redgum on Thursday 29 November 07 06:39 GMT (UK)
This is my first posting and the topic that prompted me to register.

I have a family member born in Ballyclug in the 1800's so was hoping you are able to look for the  McILHAGGA and CRAIG names in the records.

Thank you very much
Best Wishes from Australia
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Thursday 29 November 07 11:11 GMT (UK)
Hello there,  I have one Craig:

Mary CRAIG died August 1885.  Erected by her son W. C. Craig, U.S.A.  (Dark Grey Marble)
Sorry, no McIlhaggas.
By the way, my g.g.grandmother was Margaret Craig, born 1820, married Robert Anderson and lived in Broughshane.  Any connection??
Rosemary
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: redgum on Thursday 29 November 07 22:12 GMT (UK)
Hello Rosemary,

Thank you so much for the information.
It it is so hard finding Irish ancestry that every piece is valued. I am hoping I can place Mary Craig at some future point.

My g-grandparents were Robert McIhagga and Margaret Craig who married in 1876, in the Wellington Street Presbyterian Church, Parish Kirkinriola, Civil District Ballymena. 
They had a large number of children but I have only found a few. The eldest Matilda Jane McIlhagga was born in Ballyclug.
My grandfather ran away to sea at eleven years old and rarely spoke of his family.

Yesterday, I received a copy of the g-grandparents marriage certificate  and My Margaret's father was William Craig, a labourer. The two witnesses on the certificate were Jane Craig and Robert Craig.

There may be a connection between the two Margaret Craig's! The difficulty is to find it.

Thank you once more for your lookup. It is appreciated. 8)

Best Wishes
Robyn
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Thursday 29 November 07 22:44 GMT (UK)
Dear Redgum,  You never know, we might be related!  I notice there are very few Milhaggars listed anywhere in the Ballyclug area, but see a Samuel McIlhaggar(t) leasing in the Townland of Ballymuckvea in Connor Parish about 1862.  This is where my Ross ancestors lived.  Is this Samuel yours?  There a few marriages and births in Emerald Ancestors if you are interested.  Very few McIlhaggars on the LDS but worth a look. Ignore the spelling as it seems to have lots of variants. RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: redgum on Friday 30 November 07 05:22 GMT (UK)
Thank you once again RosemaryJoan, I would love to be related to you.

I have sent a PM with some more details but unfortunately I can't place Samuel McIlhagga yet, although my grandfather was born in the Connor Parish.

I will keep hunting AND keep my fingers crossed that we find the relating link!

Best Wishes
Robyn
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: ladygrez on Friday 30 November 07 05:32 GMT (UK)
Rosemary could you kindly check for Hilton, Ballantine & McLuskey, please? Thanks.
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Friday 30 November 07 09:58 GMT (UK)
Dear ladygrez,  No Hiltons or McCluskys there but that doesn't mean they aren't buried there.  I have visited this very evocative graveyard and there really aren't many headstones left.  This was a multi-denominational graveyard.
BUT - here goes:
Erected By James Ballentine, Ballee, In Memory Of His Son William Hugh Ballentine, Who Died 30th January 1873 Aged 2 Years, And His Son Alexander Ballentine Who Died 17th August 1881 aged 10 Years.  Also His Daughter Agnes Ballentine Who Died 12th April 1889, Aged 2 Years.  And His Wife Agnes Ballentine Died 31st July 1915, Aged 72 Years.  Also the Above Named James Ballentine, Who Died 6th July 1927, Aged 81 Years.  Also His Son Alexander, Died 23rd May 1942 Aged 57 Years.  His Last Son Hugh Adrain(spelling?) Died 4th June 1948 Aged 65 Years.  And Elizabeth Wife of Hugh A. Ballentine, Died 15th January 1963.  Surround:  In loving Memory of Alexander Ballentine Died 23rd May 1942 and His Wife Margaret Maria Died 2nd August 1974.  Daughter Nora Kathleen Died 15th August 1984.  Daughter Edna Isobel Died 5th March 1984.  Also His Daughter Nan Died 15th November 1961.  (Grey Marble)
IT MUST BE VERY COSY IN THERE!!
Regards,Rosemary
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: ladygrez on Friday 30 November 07 11:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks, that's brilliant. There may well be a connection to "my" earlier Ballantines : James (farmer) spouse Margaret Johnston who had a daughter Agnes b. 1819 m. John Hilton (weaver)1842 at Cross Keys.
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Friday 30 November 07 13:04 GMT (UK)
I see there were a few Ballentines living in Ballymena Town (Kirkinriola Parish), one of them a James, in Griffiths and a couple living in Ballykeel Townland in Ballyclug Parish in Griffiths (circa 1862)
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: ladygrez on Friday 30 November 07 13:27 GMT (UK)
Yes, there are also a couple of James Ballantines in Griffiths in Grange of Ballyscullion - one at Aghavary & one at Gillistown but the name Ballantine is otherwise not very common in Antrim which is why any reference is potentially helpful - so thanks again for volunteering this look-up service
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: corhan89 on Tuesday 30 September 08 12:19 BST (UK)
 hi Roemaryjoan....could youlet me knowif there are any Cobett or Corbitt names listed
  thanking you in advance joe
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Tuesday 30 September 08 12:23 BST (UK)
Sorry Joe,  Neither of those names mentioned.  RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: valbeth on Monday 10 November 08 11:12 GMT (UK)
G'day Rosemary Joan,
Could you do a look up for me please in your Ballyclug Graveyard book.
My rel is Janet Ritchie 1883.
thanking you
Valbeth
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Monday 10 November 08 13:33 GMT (UK)
Sorry Valbeth,  Not a Ritchie to be seen.  RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: valbeth on Monday 10 November 08 20:51 GMT (UK)
thank you Rosemary Joan, worth a try.   ... where would be my next graveyard to check?
I probably will go "oh yes" when you tell me. but what does PM stand for?
Valbeth
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Tuesday 11 November 08 11:17 GMT (UK)
PM  means private message.  When a person reaches a certain number of posts they can send Private Messages to other members.  Tell me (all of us!!) the area you are searching and then someone may come up with a clue as to graveyards. Regards, RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: valbeth on Tuesday 11 November 08 12:07 GMT (UK)
HI Rosemary Joan,
I knew I'd go oh yes and I did.
Well I just received a death cert. for GT GT Aunt Janet Ritchie. She died in 1883 in Caugherty Ballyclug NI. I know her brother my Gt Grandfather James was buried in 1951 in Kirkinriola Cemetery.
Apart from finding burials in Ballyclug I'm also wanting Churches to ckeck Baptisms for 1854 and  1858 being both their birth years,if that makes sense.
Thanks for trying
Valbeth 
Title: Re: Old Ballyclug Graveyard
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Tuesday 11 November 08 14:41 GMT (UK)
Hello Valbeth,  If your g.grandfather was buried in Kirkinriola perhaps it was a family tradition.  However, not everyone could afford a headstone so Janet Ritchie might be there without a headstone and then it would be a case of finding where the records were kept.  None of my family had headstones in Ballyclug.  I see there are four headstones for Ritchie in 1st Broughshane Presbyterian,  If you go to 'History from Headstones' you will find them and can view them for £4.  As for baptisms, that would depend on the religious persuasion of your family.  It has taken me years to find my g.grandmother's baptism and then I discovered that the whole family were pabtised together in Ballymena C of I, the eldest being 8 years old.  So it's a case of looking at marriages, what church they were in, and working your way through all the Ballymena churches.  Keep asking the questions.  Someone is aways happy to help.  It looks as if Caughterty is now spelt Caherty and is quite close to 1st Broughshane Presbyterian Church.  Worth a thought.  RosemaryJoan

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